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Selling Out Show

Episode 79 · 5 months ago

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ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Hooo Doggy! Ever hear about those dummies who agree to attend a timeshare seminar for a discounted trip? Yeah, well... Dave did it, and has nothing but bad things to say about the company Bluegreen Vacations. PLUS: What not to do at the Alamo, the true value of a photograph, failing at social media, 80's movie remix, goth bathrooms and Nate's Notes sounds off on straight edge. 

All this and a whole lot more in the superior Selling Out manner. Hey, Hey, click play!

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Hello, hello, hello, and thank you for tuning into the selling out show where we screw up life at our leisure for your listening pleasure. We have a great one plan for you today, because, you know what, we're going on holiday. Yes, indeed, this is an episode about vacations. I am one of your host David Schilzon, over here by my side. He is not left yet on his luxurious yacht to places unknown. Nate Gore Zinski. Nate, how are you, my friend? I'm great, I'm I'm not going on a yacht, but I am about four or five days away from a vacation as we record this. Yeah, so I'm pretty yeah, I'm pretty such that do my kind of it's become almost an annual thing where I go visit my brother who lives in Vale, Colorado, and are now he actually lives just outside, so he's kind of in between two mountains, world class mountains that I get to go visit. So I'm kind of spoiled in that way. But but this year I'M A it's I'm a little nervous because I usually ski. You know, I guess I've been skiing since I was like twelve years old. But I am planning on learning snowboarding for the first time, so I plan on falling on my ass a lot right away. Yeah, yeah, it's good to know to you brother lives in the motor boat capital between the two mountains. They're right, right, so you just shit it. Yeah, and then you've been skiing since you were nothing more than as I goat, which is also great, great information. You privileged son a bitch. Listen some people. I've seen little ass kids that are like three feet tall on skis with no fear. I didn't start until I was in like seventh grade. I just yeah, so I'm not like. I'm not one of those kids, but it is pretty fun. I see why people do it. It's just loose. Every fucking expensive they were. They were given like a Lacrosse what are they called? The lacrosse thing that you catch the ball, and what is that called? A look across ball catcher thing. Yeah, the ball. Can't you know the thing that you that's what they call it. Is it really what it's called? The official idol for it, but you know, whatever, the cane, the whatever. Yeah, if I say whatever one more time, feel free to shock me in another region. But the point being is, you know they're given that. Well, you know, I wasn't born with a silver spoon. I probably my first, you know, award from a figure in my life. I was a man. was like a Frisbee from Wamo who so the soul. You know, I can ski, but I can't read yet. It's, you know, it is to me the ultimate sign of privilege. Sure, yeah, it's definitely a certain demographic you see on the mountain. You know, I'm not gonna lie. The word I was looking for was stick. By the way, that's a stick if it's tough one. I didn't even Google that. There's just like my inner monolog or inside my head, was like, Dave, it's a fucking stick, you moron. So he came forward and saved me. But any weren't born with a silver lacrosse stick in your mouth? No, I definitely. I got the room for it. I probably could handle it. I'm I'm kidding. I have a terrible gag reflex. I don't think it to know. Yeah, that probably wouldn't work very well, but that's good, man. Vacations are great. You're going to go and you know, think about you, though. You're going somewhere cold. Yeah, yeah, you live side were cold. Yeah, I know. My girlfriend gives me shit about it all the time. She's like, you know, you hate the winter. You get like seasonal depression, all the shit, and then, right as it's getting warm, because it's always around this time of year, I go to Colorado for a little more snow. But I always counter that with like it's a totally different thing. First of all, a lot of the days that I'm out on the mountain, on these the last days the mountains open, I'm like literally in a t shirt or a tank top on the mountain. So it's like get a Tan what is so it's not that bad, it's not that cold. And also, I don't know, it's different. The winter's a lot different when you're doing something fun at like honest to God, my my brother hated the winter too and he moved out there and he said it's it's a totally different thing than New England winters. So MMM, anyway, should I enjoy? Tell your significant other? Well, yeah, I do hate the cold, doesn't matter. I think I can't stand it. But the reason why I vacation somewhere cold is and I can tolerate it and enjoy is the company that yes, that gets you. I can tell you because I get away for a while. Yeah, yeah, so, anyway, how would you dave? We both said anyway at the same time. Look, let's let's run away from that as fast as humanly possible. That...

...your comments. It's escape together. I am okay, thank you for asking. Nice segue there, Nathan. I'm a pro. You are a pro. You're going on vacation. I just came back from a vacation to beautiful San Antonio, Texas, which parallels your thing, because I live in Texas. So I just I you know. But Texas is so big. It's not like we have like a well, maybe some cases, but like different climates. Is that big and different time zones. It's all the same. But yeah, So San Antonio, I got I got a thing. I want to talk to you about this, though. Okay, because anybody out there, I think, over the age, actually maybe even it doesn't even matter what age you are anymore, because it still exists. Hence why I'm going to talk about it. But we all know, then let's this preface it that way. Have you ever been to like a bass pro shops or somewhere where they say hey, hey, we guys these discount cheepo vacations. All you got to do is it tended two hours seminar. I've never done it as an adult. I remember doing it as a kid, like my parents do it. Yeah, and I yeah. Well, I only miss cock suck is like the plague an anytime I'm out. And so I was like Hey, I got to deal this too good to be true. It's because it is. Thanks, but no thanks, I'm not interested. You're not getting my name, my information or nothing. Well, unfortunately, along comes my wife and she was in one of those outdoor world places and they snirk at her snookered her raw, which I wish I could do more often, but I got to do that by appointment. But yeah, so, so she signed up for this thing and it was like a hundred fifty bucks, but they're going to put you up in this fancy schmancy resort and she wasn't even told there's a seminar involved. She know there was any you know, catch she just thought she was sign up for like a free vacation, cheap, cheap vacation. Oh, she'd have to pay a hundred fifty bucks, but it was like three nights in a hotel and and you know whatever. So she comes home, tells me about I'm like all, you got to be fucking kid me. I'm like, well, there's a loss. There goes a hundred and fifty bucks right down the goddamn drain. And then she's like no, we're gonna do it. I'm like what? No, I don't want to do it. No, I ain't doing that. I'm not sitting through this fucking Shit. So it's been like a year and because of covid and everything, she was able to postpone it and what have you. But recently they were like, Hey, if you don't use this, you lose it, and you're one hundred fifty bucks for me yet again. That was fine, I had no problem with that. She would not let this stand. So she's like we are going take a few days off from work, and I'm like, you know what, screw it. What's the worst that can happen? Because I'm a no guy. I say no to everything, anything positive that comes my way in life. I could say no like nobody's business. So how hard? No problem. Yeah, you got no problem, like sticking up yourself and maybe being kind of a Dick if you need to not even that. Just know in general, like, Hey, do you want to live a nice, healthy existence with anything positive or good gains that may make you feel more successful or happy? No, no, I do not. I like being miserable. I'm a terrible person and that's all I'm ever going to be. So life skills? Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying, though, Dude. So if I can do that with myself, I can easily tell a stranger. No, right, he's I'm not. I don't want to buy nothing. Get the fuck away from me, Dude. Man. So all right, so where am I going with this? We end up going on this little thing, we show up, they'll like, hey, we don't have any room in this fancy resort we have here that we're trying to eventually sell you, so we're going to put you up in this little three star ditty down the way. What. See, you couldn't even you couldn't even really stay and get a feel for the place that you're supposed to the yeah, it up for yeah, and this just so everybody knows to I want to get this out of the way. They hate it. Don't call it a time share. Don't do this. They will fucking they will lose their minds because they sell vacation experiences and the company, you may have heard of them, anybody who's already gone through this. They called Blue Green. Okay, I'm sure there's a collective side from from listeners like Ha Day, for Real, you did that too. Are you fucking for Real, dude? I would have warned you don't do this. So anyway, I'm a threestar kind of guy. No big deal, I'll go stay at the drury in, you know, which is hard to say. It's hard to come out of your mouth by they probably should have thought that a little better. But Hey, it's a nice enough hotel, very friendly staff. I'm happy. Tomorrow we're going to attend the fucking seminar, which is the one thing when that's hanging over your head, is a little worrisome because like, yeah, this is nice that we're glad to be out, we're doing something as a family, but tomorrow I got...

...a fucking do this against my will. Yeah, dreading it of this sense of like impending boredom, going yeah, well, I'm fucking Google in the hotel. I'm checking everything. I'm like, well, how much does it cost to stay here to night. So if we don't go, what's the big deal? I was fucking pay for it anyway. Right, wow. So they say, oh well, you didn't follow the terms of your contract to come to our little fucking Shin Dig so now everything's on you. Okay, no big deal. Is A fucking hundred twenty dollar a night hotel. Ha, fuck you, you know. But our wife's like no, we're going to go in it go. Yeah, so let me get to the chase. We go. You meet a representative. They're very friendly, very warm, jovial, happy. People want to know a little bit about you, you know, kind of snuggle up next to you a little bit, whisper sweet nothings in your ear. A lot of this is very relatable to sex, as you will find out later. Then they leave you in this room where a guy comes out and gives you like a presentation, little power point, some testimonials would have you, some little interaction with the crowd, yet again, trying to get you, you know, loose and limber, happy to be there, and try to say that, you know, memories are everything. Nay, everything. Yeah, life is not worth living unless you took a picture of it and posted it on instagram. Don't forget that now. All right. So we sit through that and at the end of it I'm like, Oh, here we go, I'm going to get my sales pitch now, it's going to be coming to me. I got a fucking stand strong and we meet the guy again. His name was Javierre. I will expose this man, suppose Javier, and we sit down. Is Up, JAKES UP, Javie. Yeah, and at first he's like, all right, well, I'm going to get you guys in the great little vacation package today. You can get all these points. Boom, boom, boom, and I'm like, Whoa, slow your fucking roll there, Guy. I am not interested one bit. How come? Why not? Well, to be on perfectly honest with you, hobby, we only vacation a couple times a year. No, no, Dave. That's the best thing is that if you don't use your points, they roll over. You can stay anywhere in the world. I haven't even mentioned yet that our son was with us, my delightful nine year old, who is gleefully just playing his nintendo switch in the corner. And so the Sales Guy, he looks at my son and goes, hey, wouldn't you like your dad to take it to Disneyland? Nod, Shit, yeah, his son involved, oh boy did he ever. He's trying to weaponize my kid, my friend, and he's dirty pool. Oh it was very dirty pool and to the point where I like leaned forward to engage this guy and my wife had to grab my knee because she knew is like my trigger for me to calm down, like settle down there, Pony. She pulled your leash. She did, she did. I was going to say, Hey, cax sucker, what the fuck do you think you're doing? Don't talk to my kid right about Yo. Don't you want you dad to take you to Disneyland, the world, whatever the fuck are they go see the mouse, go see the fucking mouse. And so I'm like no, no, dude, just no, no, no, everything he was saying. No. His tactics changed to bad cop immediately, just like Hey, well then, if you don't care about your family, if you don't care about the memories you make, then you know, whatever, that suits you just fine. We don't, we really not want a partner with you, because we're all about making happy families and if you don't want to be a happy family and I'm like, Guy, it has nothing to do with that. I'm not interested in paying twenty grand for a fucking lifetime vacation package, to which they keep trying to reassure you too, like oh well, here's the best part. Is that vacations always increase in cost every year. With us at always is the same and we're never going anywhere. Ever. It's like whatever I do, like you guys are fucking immortal. Blue Green vacations or immortal. There's going to be a nuclear Holocaust and fucking all is gonna be left as Javier and fucking cockroaches trying to sell them a fucking trip to fucking why Kei key. But so he's trying to do his fucking his dirty bomb tactics on me and stuff, and he's get a little fucking personal. I'm not liking it whatever, but he can tell I'm just not having it. So he slides over a piece of paper. He's like, listen, just get this credit report started and we can go from there, and I'm like, Dude, no, I'm not signing this. I'm like you're gonna dig my fucking credit and fucking and you know, look into my private financial matters into something I have no interest in buying. Yeah, they they want to see if you qualify for something you don't even want. And the first place exactly. I'm like no, no, get the slip the paper back to him, like, Dude, no, I'm just trying to get the fuck out of there at this point, right, because that's anybody's plan. They just want to say no, no, no, no, no, you're released. You are free. Go about your vacation now in peace. But he's not done. He calls in a ringer, a bald guy with a Nice Jack get on, MMM,...

...comes strolling on over. No, he's didn't. Your old guy he did. He brought the ball guy. He brought fucking tell you, Savalas to the party. Man, Shit, tell he sits down and you know he's cool guy. Right. He's like Hey, what's going on, guys? I hear that you're not interested in buying one of our fantastic vacation lifetime of a memory or memories of a lifetime package and this and that. I look at the guy. You know, he's got fucking not dice tattooed on his wrist. They sent like a mafios yeah, collector. Well, his face was too soft for that, you know what I mean. He didn't look like he'd really been in any mafio so activity. But he probably thinks he's a he's at one slick customer. He's probably the guy who wanted to like excel in the world poker tour, that kind of thing. MMM, you's got a tribal tattoo above the dice, somewhere it maybe it could have been. I couldn't see that far up his forearm. But so he's trying to do the good cop on us and I'm like no, nope, sorry, not, non interested. Man. He's like all right, well, this one last thing you guys got to do before you go. I'm going to take a tour of the property. I'm like, Oh, you mean the one that we didn't get a chance to stay at, because you promised it. Promised it to us. We Inter stay somewhere else, all right, and I have no interest in all anyway. Yeah, but he's like it's mandatory, you got to do it. Okay, so we go up to this in his fancy this room. It's all like whatever, my wife and Kidd a looking around. Yeah, that's Nice, whatever, and I'm not. I'm just standing in the doorway and fucking Javiers like was some Maddie. You want to look around? I'm like, no, dude, not interested. Man, I have no I've seen a toilet before. No, thank you. Hey looks at me. Because, Dave, what's up? Man, you gotta problems trust in people. You could trust issues. I'm like, you got to be fucking now. Now he's Dr Phil. That what is happening to me? What is going on here? I just want to fucking go see the fucking Alamo, all right, that's all I want to do. This is turned into like a whole sociology expert. Like you know, I'm the elevator. He's like asking how much I make a year. I'm like, I'm not telling you, guy. I don't know how else I can do anything besides just choking him out. You know, I mean like to make him stop talking. Yeah, and I felt like I want these people. They are these people. They must be like ex cops. They used to like interrogating, trying to get information out of people, just needling people until they fucking cave. You know, that's well, much like the doughfaced ringer. I don't think Javier was much of a brawler. Yeah, hands were too well kept manicured. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So we get back down the ringers there and he's like, okay, now, you seen that. Here is that credit report for you to sign or inquiry, and I'm like, Nope, is nothing. You can do, nothing, you can say they will make me sign this fucking paper today or make me interested in your services at all. I like, this experience has been terrible. I'm done. Whatever else is mandatory, get it over with. I want to get out of here. He's like, well, Nope, you done. Have a nice day, and then we left and went and saw the Alamo, which kind of sucked. Oh really, yeah, do you remember it? Yeah, yeah, I remember the Alamo. Yeah, I was told you're supposed to. Do you want to tip? What's a about seeing the Alamo? Yeah, don't go inside. Don't even bother. What about the basement? Should we go to the basement? There is no basement, sadly, and I'm sure so many people must say that, I mean I said it to my wife at least like eighty times. I'm sorry, I can't wait to see the basement. Ha Ha, ha ha. No, now, I's just when you go in it's nothing. They walking around and is like one room's like, oh, there's some dead bodies buried underneath here and there's some flags hanging up there. And now welcome to our gift shop. Can we see the dead buddies that they know they come up? No, no, no, but the salt pepper shakers shaped in an Alamo holder will cost you a cool thirty bucks. Damn. Yeah. So, anyway, my thing is, if any of you ever go to bass pro shops wherever, oh, quickly, I'm sorry. I'm sorry so bad. I cannot keep my thoughts together. So if you were to Google reviews on blue green vacations, you'll see a lot of bad stuff, one of which that bass pro shops actually southe them, and one because of their pushy tactics. It was like forty million dollar lawsuit. I brought this up to Javier and I'm like, Hey, you know, you guys get some terrible reviews. Oh Man, he got fucking he looked like he just drank some sour milk. Really, he's a bad reviews. Everybody gets batter reviews, applicates, badter reviews, buqueus bad reviews. I mean, you were with somebody before your wife, weren't you? I'm sure if we as your ex girlfriends about, you probably wouldn't get the best glowing treatment now, would you? Wow, have they ah, with a deep cuts, you fucking piece of Shit. fucking Javey, are right, you have. You are. Was a fucking dude, they said. These people, they have like an agreement with bass pro shows, like enough where bass was like complaining about them, or they just randomly happen to hang out there. Like why?...

Why? BASS PRO shops? I went well, and when I gather now they're like a co it's like bass pro shops or whoever owns bass pro shops and outdoor world owns them as well. Let's see, but this lawsuit was a I don't know how many years ago it was, but it wasn't even with the vacation things themselves. Is like the in store sales people being pushy. I see in their tactics. So yeah, yeah, well, I'm sure if they looked into Javier's department they'd have some issues with that. To you, you know, and that's the thing. You, no matter how tough you think you are, how stern or how you know forward, you think you can be. HMM, it's like when they weaponize your children against you. Right, we are sitting in your fucking confined in this little table with them and it's just like what scummy fucking p absolutely dude they that. But that's it. That's their whole job. They know they're going to be dealing with people that say know they offer a deal like that where it's like show up and you just have to do this little thing. They're not going to make that thing easy. They're not, you know, they're trying to get sales, like they're probably losing plenty of money just having everyone stay there, whatever it is. You know they but I tell you, man like it's frustrating to deal with. I I've never gone to one of those as a grown up but, like I said, as a kid I remember my folks doing it and I loved stay in at whatever hotel it was. I remember they had an indoor pool and an arcade, and that's about all the review I can give it because because I was probably nine or something. But but I don't know, as an adult, I just the only experience I have with something like that would be maybe dealing with police and derogators and like just having them constantly trying to every tactic to get you to, you know, confess to something or to let them know something. They're just it's it just sounds way too familiar for that. Like try to Dona Se, you demean, you like talk down and you like everything. It was just like a ran, the GAMMUT. It ruined your your trip, I suppose. No, actually didn't. I would, because once you do get out of there, you like Ha, I am free as a bird. Yeah, and all you remember, Oh, you remember, is the alumo. Anyway. Yes, well, you get off of that. for Christ's Sakes, will you stop about remembering the Alamo? What you know? I also went on the river walk and went on it like it's a ride. It's you know, you just walk up and down. It is nicest part of history, you know. I went to a comic book shop there. I got myself some some comics. I mean, San Antonio is a nice enough town. It's just nice to be away, have a weekend off with the family in there was an indoor pool, nice, so my kid did some swimming that and they yet again. The hotel we stayed at I couldn't recommend highly enough. They were the friendliest fucking people on the face of the earth and everything was clean and nice. I would stay there again in a heartbeat, but I would not do it holding hands with Blue Green fucking vacation company incorporated. Whatever. And I'm curious. I want you to ask your parents how the process was for them, because who knows, maybe one of the main reasons why they say we will be around forever and you will always have blue green, is because their employees, those evil, sinister Shucksters, are immortal, and Javier tried to sell your parents, just like you tried to sell me. Maybe it's like the vampire, how you are, he can only be beheaded. That's the only way to get rid of these fucking guys. You know there can be only one. Well, here's the other thing, right. Think of it like this. You understand their job must suck. You got people telling you know every day you must make money off a commission. Of course you're not making a base salary here. You know what I mean. You need to survive. Yeah, but the fact that you have to go buy this script and use these various methods to try to make money to me, I would just rather fucking flip burgers at McDonald's. I'm sorry, I don't care how much you make. Yeah, man, that Shit's soul crushing, like, because it just does automatic bad vibes. Man, you're like trying to get someone to do something you know they don't want to do, trying to get them to spend money they probably don't have, and you know it's just it causes stress, in awkwardness, and I I'm the type man, I hate that awkwardness, like being in your position. I commend you for being able to stay no and do all this. I know, like you know, if you don't have the money, you don't have the money. But I'm the type man, I I'm too much off like a people pleaser. Like that kind of situation makes me just feel awkward and like, don't get me wrong, with the cops, like I learned how to get a thick skin. So maybe, maybe, if I use the same tactics I use these, I could get through that, but I just wouldn't put myself in that position, you know, like, I don't know, that's that's rough. That the the miss kind of put you in that position. But well, I mean she didn't know exactly what was going to happen and I was like yeah, you know, I'll be Mr tough guy, and she was actually intrigued not to like buy it from them,...

...but like in the future. She was like that's not a bad idea. You pay whatever, you have your vacations every year already pretty much mapped out for you. Yeah, okay, you know that. Maybe in a few years, because again, it's like anywhere between, you know, seventeen to twenty grand. Me, I'm the kind of person where I'd rather spend that money on, like, yeah, comics or something, which I hate saying out loud because I because if she heard that, I get in trouble for it. And I have at least you, at least you have those things. You have some things. All that, I know, like taking a vacation is great, like they memories do last, but but do they have like a physical thing in your hand that you can re read over and over again? With comics, and it's the thing you're passionate about. So I understand your point of view, but memories, and you men, you don't need like how many people have specific memories where they could tell you the date, the time, the weather outside? I mean Mary Lou Henner. Oh, okay, re actress from taxis. Yeah, it actress. She's got that weird condition where she can literally remember everything Daytoday, like you mentioned a date. Sometimes, like I've seen interviews with her and other people have that same thing. It's like whatever recall, or so it's called, something like I whatever it is, but that condition where you can literally remember every detail of every day and what the weather was and everything. It's like, but I don't know how many, like are they faking it? Sometimes I guess there's someone checking Zee, like if they were right, like you know, I remember that day because it was rainy and it was the first day this movie came out and I went to see it and blah, blah, blah. You make it sound like a curse. It's because a little off topic like this is terrible. Might be it might be you want to remember every moment, like when you, you know whatever, somebody you love died and you remember everything about them all like time or break up. Okay, okay, all right, now you're talking misery. You're right up my alley. I wear a lot of black, act day black. That's right, but I mean really, what I was trying to get at is memories. When I think back on my own childhood, or even five years ago. I remember like a little photographs in my mind right sure, I don't often see things in moving pictures. I just right now a memory is popping in my head, completely random and weird. I can recall being a teenager and my mom being angry at me for wetting the brush to comb my hair. HMM, okay, yeah, I couldn't tell you when that was, how old I was, what I was wearing, but I can. I can vividly tell you my mom got super pissed and was like don't run my fucking brush underneath the faucet to comb your shitty hair. Wow, yeah, what was it like? Metal is going to rust? No, I was metal. That was a problem, Dude. I was like fun, yeah, I am, I like peace cells, but who's buying t shirt? Oh Yeah, you gonna cool my hair before school. Yeah, but I know. Seriously, you know? Or when I went camping as a kid, I can remember a fue little snippets here. Are there? Listen, if you were to ask me, I'd say they were a fantastic trips. Nothing bad happened. Sure, we made memories, right, but where are those memories? How valuable those memories. How do we store these memories and not going up in the cloud? Well, I mean unless you're taking photos of them, but I mean in your head. So what our memories truly worth? Well, nowadays, with the you just mentioned, taking a bunch of pictures, with the ease of pictures of on cell phones, things like that, you can hold on to memories a lot more now. So I do see that, but dude, I don't on the same way. Like as a kid, I have some memories, like you said, snippets of old vacations, whatever experiences, but a lot of it, yeah, it's just a little bits and pieces. And when I was younger I didn't really want to be in pictures that much or I never really took pictures. They were kind of a pain in the ASS. Yet film developed. Didn't you do this of that, and I don't know, I was just a young kid that didn't want to like take the time to stand and be in pictures. And now that I'm older, I see old pictures friends of mine took on whatever they'll upload on facebook or on whatever, and I'm like, Damn, I wish I was in more pictures when I was younger. So I could remember things more because they I think they do help. Those those images Duke on you go, Oh shit, I remember when we took that, or I remember so I don't know. Nowadays I do take a lot of pictures. I go skiing like each year and I'll take a shit ton of pictures. I rewatch like videos my brother took of me skiing on the mountain, like he's riding behind me with a go pro, and I have those old videos and do it's like it's I'll I'll be honest with the there's certain nights where I'll put, like they're so high deaf, those videos because there it's a it's a gopro camera, and I'll literally, you know, eat a few mushrooms, sit back with that, with that computer screen right up to my face like a laptop, and watch those videos and I feel like I'm on the mountain and it's there, that high deaf where you I literally feel like...

...you're there. I was ready to argue with you. Okay, I was primed, but now I really can't because when I was going to I was going to spar with you over you kind of just explain, because I was going to say to you, like Oh yeah. Well, now at technology. We got photographs and our phones, and I'm like yeah, but how often you actually look at those fucking things? And and for me personally, rarely ever do I I look at photos. What I do do is this. Do Do, Dude, is Um, I got like the Google photo things on my phone where it'll be like this day, seven years ago, right, and now I'm all scroll through those sometimes because my son was a baby and I oh yeah, I kind of remember that. Oh Yeah, well, look at look at them there. I look at that cute Little Bay Bay. Oh yeah, but if it was like look back on two years ago, I'm just like cancel, I don't want to see the shit from two years ago. It's still all the same as it is today. Yeah, so you know, I mean, I don't. I've got thousands of photos and my computer and my phones and the cloud and everywhere else, and if you ask me how often you look at those old photos, it's be like well, they're probably going to play on a fucking video screen at my funeral. Yeah, you know, that's that's really the next time they'll be seen. I but people are different, right. Some people, I know the guy at the presentation the one who gave the whole spiel. Yeah, he gave a story that was supposed to be heartfelt at the end of it about his grandfather and the last time they saw it each other. And at one point, you know, the person in me who is raised on comedy, you know, or Spoo for parody, I think, like mad magazine just signed Feld, or even someone who watches curb enthusiasms, like yeah, he's full of Shit, this fucking guy. You know, he's just trying to sell US something. He his last memory with his grandfather wasn't catching a catfish. He's catfishing us. That's what this fucking guys doing. Yeah, man, it's just another tactic, you know. Yeah, by the same time he was playing up like the whole thing how memories are so important. You can't miss him. Don't let him get away from you. You know you're right, but you know, don't get too cynical, Dave. I'm a cynical old bastard sometimes, but you got them, you know. In that case I think you're probably right, but you know, it's you can. You can soften that kind of sardonic cynical I once in a while. I think, man really that is our cream. For that. There's a salve s yeah, right, yeah, man. And but I'll definitely speaking to making memories. I will remember that Blue Green is a shitty company and remember the Alamo for a hid, no, for a long, long time. But I also want to bring something else up, though, since we're talking about vacations. Okay, is vacation movies, films? Right, because I had recently rewatched I got a point out the fact that I rewatched it because I saw it before I got cred okay, yeah, yeah, there. It's always a re watch or reread. You can't just say I'm reading some Oh, you never read it when it first came out. Your fucking pose are your lay before it was cool? Yeah, wait, you're listening to White Zombie, are you? No, I'm really listening to White Zombie. I was there, okay, fucking thunder kiss, motherfucker. I was there last sex or CC. Yes, last sex or see still, I was fucking there. But anyway, summer rental. Yeah, it's I'm Dun Candy, John Candy. It's all my favorite streamer, as you well know. I hope you know who my favorite streaming services as I never stopped talking about them. The Hulu's the Hulu. Yeah, so let's it was on Hulu. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's on the Hulu. So if you ever want to go back and look at that or re watch or maybe even his watch it for the first time, you fucking loser, be honest. Yeah, beyonce. Yeah, so, and I was thinking of myself, because the premise of that film, for those who were uninitiated, is John Candy takes his family on vacation hijinks and sue. Right, terrible things happened, but you know, it's all for comedy, because, you know whatever. And then they got to win a regatta. They on when the race. These are like tropes now, like, yes, they're a'm multiple vacations gone wrong movies, you know, vacation, European vacation, summer mental there's all these. It's kind of like that comedy of errors. You know, the follies that ensue. You're trying to relax on vacation but it ends up being more stressful. Right, and we had a ton of them as because they probably still make a ton of them. Oh Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but these are classics. But anyway, yeah, and...

...there's even the regatta thing is even a kind of a trope. Well, a few movies in the S. Yes, exactly right, and I love the regatta trope. Yeah, I'M gonna make a sure. This is regatta trope. And by regatta, for some of us that don't know our listeners, they meet it's a boat race. Is there? I'm you're another term for regatta other than boat race that I was unaware of. I don't know, maybe people aren't as privileged as a skiers and well, and you know, when you're in share, officient. I don't call it a time share. I didnt even get into that. That fucking piss him off. Man. Oh Yeah, when you're like I'm not interested in time share, everybody slow down. Okay, might as well called their mother a whore like it was serious business. But back to the regatta, back to the regatta. Or Yeah, okay, back to the race on water. Then involves things made of wood. I was singing to myself. Man, imagine if the regatta thing was kind of like if you could translate to other movies. So I fucking immediately hop on social media and I put on Instagram a picture a Daniel Simon. He's telling at his mom the famous scene from Karate Kid, like Uh uh, I just want to go home, and I put it as cool. Yeah, yeah, right, I'm gonna look karate. I fucking put like I gotta with a regatta because I'm like, imagine if you could just change the plot of a movie by like one line and one aspect of it, like and do a Remix, in s remix of these classic movies. We had talked about one crazy summers a few episodes back, yes, being in the fair amount of detail, and that was another regatta winning, you know, consequence Falm, John Q, sack, bobcat gold sway pretty classic. Yes, that's a great yeah, great film. So imagine now if you took away the the All valley karate tournament and he's going to beat Johnny in a fucking boat race. Like how would that? How the movie fair? It would be pretty similar, I think, because even the characters, like the the regatta owners, are like the the people they're trying to fight, I mean, or race rather. Yeah, are always that kind of Cocky, you know, asshole, jockish or rich guy character. Yeah, like one crazy summer they were race against the guy that had the car whatever. was a Ferrari or whatever kind of car he had, you know, but in but Johnny in freaking what's it called? Karate Kid, was sort of that same sort of Asshole, you know, that character, like yeah, you know what read, fucking the tough guy. Yeah, you name it. Sure, and my point anyway, he's troupe. Yes, yes, we are going to we're going to trope ourselves to death. Today. No one liked my post, so obviously none of you motherfuckers are following on instagram. And if you are, and you'd say yeah, whatever, yeah, Moron. But I thought it was brilliant. I really didn't like this. Amused me, it tickled me. Yeah, man, beyond words. I was like, Oh wow, you know, let's do some remixes of these movies. Maybe this will spark a conversation. It went nowhere, but anyway, back to summer rental, I guess. Yes, he's going to win the regatta and yeah, what was that? Where was I going with this? I want to get back to it. For some reason. What was that? Fo knows, I think you should say. I mean, if you look at the movies, one crazy summer and better off dead, which is a previous John Q sack movie. They were both John Qusack movies and they both dealt with him kind of falling in love with someone who was dating the asshole. And and in one of these, in one movie, it was a regatta that he is competing in and the other movie it was like a ski tournament. Coincidentally, we're talking about skiing, a weird R yeah, but can flip flop those two. Listen, it's s fucking I'm going to say it again, s tropes. A really like that game on prices, right, we can flip or flop the price. Yep, you like skiing or regatta, karate fighting or you know whatever, mix and match. Look madly. Yes, these movies mad lives. Yeah, and it just came back to me what I wanted to say about summer rental. Okay, good. There is a scene in that movie that is probably one of the worst overdubs of all time. HMM, we're a little girl. Okay, first off is I don't want to spoil anything because you can easily go stream it right now and Hulu and I definitely want you to go see it, but it's a point where there's an Asian guy who doesn't say much in the movie he's like an assistant to this pirate dude. But every any one of these movies they got to have like the whole montire scene of them doing something productive, fixing up a boat, fix in the boat, fix in the boat, doing training, getting tough, getting swollen. Yeah, whatever, right. So, runnings montage, yes, the Bob slid, yes, yes, exactly. So there's one point a little girl,...

...who plays the daughter of John Canny the movie, has to say something to the mother and she's like mom, can I play with your coup or something, right like that, and then she must have said it wrong. This little shit, terrible actress looking terrible. Harbor revoke her SAG after car whatever. So there's obviously a grown up trying to do a kids voice. Mommy, can I play with your coup? And then they cut the mom's mom's like sure, okay, and then she goes taking her picture sures, which is akin to like Harry and the Henderson's. Where they the drawings a wife would do? Yeah, yeah, the pencil drawings, and it's like it'd be like the Aha videos. I keep thinking this is like decent, that's like that and this is related to that. Will you say now? I was talking over you. No, I just said these are some deep cutsus. Yeah, DEPATI's fucking cuts, man. Yeah, well, in summer rental of the wife keeps taking the fucking she's got the big fat whatever fit camera. Remember those those cameras? Mr Camera Phone Guy Shutters one of those. Yeah, so lenses. I definitely want everybody to watch that movie and then when they get to that scene, I want them to always think of me. Okay, why don't we petition with you, are coup, we can partition them. So fucking take away her sad guy. No, I want what she got paid. That's what I want. They could just you know what, or over debit with a what my line that I just said right there. Yeah, he probably did a better job I probably did in the fucking whoever whoever it was, and and you know, it had to have been like in a rush. It was in the editing room and they tried working with it and they're like, Oh man, she just couldn't fucking get that line out. Can I play with your coup, So York? Who is a name the characters and why do you see actor? Why The actor's name? I think his name was like Harry. Your coup or something, and I think they just called him Yorku in the movie because his role was so insignificant. He I don't think even spoke. Oh wait, maybe they went Haha, it was that the the S Asian. Yeah, exactly, Long Duck Dong. Well, I got whole thing. Long Duck Dong will live an in form me right, you work. Who was obviously forgotten, and I give it is wrong. WAS THE MALTA MEAL? It was the Goya Oh Boya of the Asian s actors set. He's an old man to so you know he's probably long. Oh yeah, remember that kick the yeah, okay, you googling him right now? Is No, I just remember now that you mentioning I remember those scenes in the movie, like I saw that movie before. It was cool as well. Yeah, I just a lot of the memories are fading. So it's so but I do remember that. You're taking a picture of it. Huh. But it's ironic that the overdubbed line was not from the Asian actor, like in so many movies. Who was the kid talking about? Asian? Well, the line was said by the little girl. That's what I'm saying. Like in a lot of movies, you think of the Asian like with the overdubbed vocals that don't match the mouth movements. Okay, I have this. Is Somebody, a white a little as she was a white girl. Yeah, if I remember. Yeah, and she's saying a line and it had to be overdub so it's kind of kind of strange that pulled the old flip flop. They did this flipped and flopped, flipped and but that's it all that. When they when they're in there, like all, what we're going to do? Can we cut this from the movie? I mean they really could have. Yeah, it was very unnecessary. Yeah, Filler it was. Yeah, not even anything, but they're like no, no, here's what'll can do. Billy, billy, come here. Can you just say this into the microphone real quick? Yeah, m what are we going to read? Can you say this? Yeah, okay, Mommy. Can I play with you or coup no, good, johnny, Johnny, come here. Can you say this? What do you want me to say? Mommy? Can I play with you or coup perfect? He bring it down an extractive. Mommy, can I play with your coup perfect? Put in the movie. Put It in the movie. That's all we need we're done, bing, Bang, boom, send it off to the fucking theaters. We're good to go, good to go, very good. Yeah, but, yeah, so it's definitely not in the whole line of vacation movies. Very, not original. None of them are. Yeah, but it definitely worth a viewing, especially I hate old rich guys who wear a scots right and sailor caps. Yeah, who doesn't hate those sons of Bitches, right? WHO DOES I mean? Come on, Richard Crenna, from yes and from Rambo. Yep, yeah, YEP, and he fucking loses his nut because he's an islander. He's a rich and islander and he's in like Taurus on his island. And this takes place in Florida, just so you know. Yeah, so, yeah, but, I mean, yeah, all I got to say about vacations. I mean, I could go on and on and on something. I mean, we fall to the crack dawn talking about vacation like a mowing the lawn, but I won't. Well, I'm glad we hashed it all out. Feel better. I do have another vacation in coming up in June.

Okay, but that one is not affiliated with any scam artists. Good, you know very same life is. Life is just a series of vacations and you fill the time in between. Man, I don't know if they say that, I just said it. You just said it. Yeah, we can put that on the back of the T shirt I wanted to make earlier. So what do you say we get some of our sponsorship talk out of the way? Sounds fucking great. Man, you did even let me finish, because you don't know what's happening after that, do you? I don't. I'm in a in the I don't know. I'm out of the loop. You are an even worse actor than that little fucking girl who I should I could just google her name right now, but I'm not even giving her the credit. No, no, because you know exactly what's coming up. Nate, you just trying to play around. Look at US fancy radio types doing our podcast. We're too cool for school. Ha, ha ha. Here comes a spontaneous segment that we like to call nate's notes. Ha, my name's on it. WHOOOO. But Anyway, I do want to thank the partners of our program Northland Vaporcom, where you can go to get all of your vaping supplies, but more importantly, they have some great e liquids that are dike tone and artificial sweetener free, which I always mentioned is very important, because I've tried other companies juices and they pretty much taste like ass. So you definitely want to try northland vaporcom. Also, underneath their umbrella, they get a very wide umbrella. They be you want to be your best friend. When it rains. They get a lot going on over there. At Northland. They have Alpine Hempcom, because the CBD revolution has indeed arrived, if you weren't aware, because CBD is a wonderful way of treating all of life's ailments. And they have everything under the Sun. But I just realized I was trying to say raining and sun in the same promo piece. I'm conflicting against myself, like I'm like my own dark half. Do you know what I means? To take some lessons from Javier and yeah, they should have. I really should taken something from that guy rather than fucking a boatload of Shit. But intimidate our listeners into buying, yeah, CBD products. Yeah, if you don't buy from Alpine Hampcom, let me tell you right now, you hate yourself, you hate your family, you hate everyone around you worthless. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, because I use their CBD products for energy and relaxation and and what have you. And what I was trying to get to you before I kind of just lost myself in the weeds. Right there is if you want ointments or liniments, is are you trying to say as them? Yeah, okay, there you go. They got them. You want capsules, they got them. Gummies, they got them. As a matter of fact, they have other companies, death by Gummy BEARSCOM and Wonky Weedscom for Delta Eight. I mean just everything. But here's the best part. Right, go to either northland vaporcom or Alpine Hempcom and use code selling out nineteen, and you will save nineteen percent off your entire order. Boom, money in your pocket. Save the foot location. What a bog. I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler. So, last but not least, we have spunk lubecom. Listen Up, guys, you don't have it. You got no game, you really don't. And whatever your partner does to tolerate you. God bless them. I mean really, right down to their very essence. Their core to actually lay down with you in some kind of coitus or any kind of fashion. HMM. So make it a little bit enjoyable for them. And I guess I'm spunk Loubit, spunk loubcom. I mean this is a Loube used by film professionals in the adult film industry. Show. She should to say professionals, so I need to say film professionals, and let's do something kinky happening with cellu Lloyd right, which could be, I don't know. I don't know how specific you need to get. Anyway, all those hot motherfuckers that you're jerking off to, they use this stuff. Okay, remember that. You can check them out as spunk lubecom today. Thank me later, but without further ADO. Let's get to the nuts and bolts of this here program and do some mates nodes. Dust up your lps. It's time for nate. No, no way. Back in my sophomore year of high school, there was this kid named Kevin who sat in front of me and English class. He was new to our school that year and I first noticed him because he would wear band shirts of pretty underground hardcore acts back in those days, and in our small town high school. That was pretty rare. One day I decided to try and break the ice. I walked up to him after class, pointed at his shirt and said Hey, cool convert...

...shirt man, figuring maybe he'd appreciate talking to someone with similar musical tastes in his new school. We're most people presumably had no idea who a band like converge were. I remember Kevin grunting some kind of response, but it was by no means warm and he quickly moved on without any further conversation. I thought it was a little rude, but again, the kid was new and maybe he was shy. But anytime I tried to say hi in the halls or even just make eye contact with him, Kevin would scowl or roll his eyes and look away. It turned out he wasn't particularly shy and he wasn't a Douche to everyone. My good friend James mentioned one day that he talked with Kevin Pretty often. They had a class or two together and they would sometimes hang out and talk music, etc. I told James how Kevin always acted pretty dickish toward me, and James vealed that my name had actually come up in their conversations. Turned out, Kevin was what you call a straight edge kid. Didn't touch booze or drugs, didn't eat meat or use animal products. I, on the other hand, had a reputation as, if not a burnout, then at least kind of a partier. I smoked weed in the parking lot after school, I smoked cigarettes in the bathrooms during school. Hell, I occasionally dropped acid in the morning before school even started. Apparently this gangly punk rock teetotaler had no patience from my kind of debauchery and he talked a good deal of shit about me. The straight edge movement began in the late s punk scene, but got its name from the one thousand nine hundred and eighty one minor threat song straight edge. The excesses of the s exemplified by icons like said vicious and Johnny Thunders, led to a lot of Punk's rebelling against that kind of self destruction. I won't go into the whole history of the movement, but it's been a whole scene of its own for decades now. There are bands that preach clean and sober living, others that add veganism and animal rights to the message. I remember a bunch of bands like shelter and one hundred and eight, adopting a Krishna conscious identity, and that became sort of an offshoot in my life. I first really heard of straight edge when I was introduced to the Boston Bay and slapshot at like age thirteen. They had a couple straight edge anthems, but I was struck by the lyrics to their song chant kill anyone with a beer in his hand, because if you drink you're not a man. Straight Edge, straight edge in your face, you don't belong to the human race. That's the thing about straight edgers. They didn't just abstain from smoking, drinking and drugs, they were often militantly against those who did partake in those things. I remember kids getting assaulted for smoking cigarettes outside of punk clubs. The Band Earth crisis wrote songs about going out and murdering people for selling drugs, a sentiment echoed on popular shirts that read kill your local drug dealer. That band, Earth crisis, were a favorite of that Kid Kevin, I was talking about. I may have even first heard of them because I saw him wearing an earth crisis shirt. Ironically, I really enjoy a lot of their music, which is true of a lot of straight edge bands and earth crisis message was mostly stuff I could get behind in theory, environmental concerns, animal rights, economic and social justice issues, but, like Petera and green peace, their radical spin on these important stances pushed as many people away as they drew in. I'm not a fan of violence period, and even in my teenage years I understood things weren't as simple as drug dealers are evil, or you're a better person if you don't eat meat or smoke. Would have I have ended up better off if I had gotten sucked into that scene and adopted their point of view in my formative years? WHO's to say? I know that most of the problems in my life since then stemmed from addiction to opiates, so maybe that hard line approach would have nipped all that in the bud. But even with that in mind, I still can't get behind the militant straight edge mentality. I have nothing against choosing to remain clean and sober or being vegan. Those are healthy ways to live and even cut down on the amount of suffering on the planet. But it's that all too human tendency to put things in the tribal US verses them context that keeps me from respecting the straight edge scene.

And don't get me wrong, I knew plenty of people who called themselves straight edge and were still cool to others regardless of their personal choices. This isn't an indictment of living drug free. It's just an observation about one more group of people trying to belittle others without even getting to know them. I've known some Super Nice drug dealers. Many of them are just trying to earn a living and they're not pushing an anything on people that don't ask for it. They're not victimizing people. Sure, I get mad that I spend thousands and thousands of dollars on drugs over the years. I'd even get resentful seeing my heroin dealer show up in a new car, knowing that I probably paid for a good portion of it. But I don't want him dead. I sought him out. He just capitalized on my habit and to preach killing anyone with a beer in his hand. Really, I understand hyperbole, but I also understand how language perpetuates division and hate. Sure, as I read this, I know it just seems like I'm holding a grudge against some kid in high school, and sure I don't exactly remember Kevin fondly, but playing in bands and going to shows I ran into a ton of these anti narcotic Nazi types. It's more that Kevin was my first encounter with how straight edge culture could turn open minded music listeners into close minded conservative bigots simply by creating an insular group and declaring some other group and enemy. It's an old tactic that we see all the time. So insummation. If you want to lift drug free or abstain from meat or sex or whatever, bully for you. Very proud of you, but we don't need a whole music seeing based on come on, join our tribe. It's a little grunt shruck. That's right there, people, those who ever grunt truck, and I just I just say that because when I listen to you talk about straight edge, it just reminds me how we all have this need. This, you know not? This is born into us. Right to fit somewhere, to belong, to be a piece of a puzzle. Sure, and for them it just that happened to be, you know, their thing. Even though I got a I got to bring this up and I'll let you tell the story if you willing to tell it, okay, but do you remember what I did to a straight edge or one time at a show and they got super pissed at me? Do you remember? This? Sounds familiar. You didn't like blow smoke in their face. No, but I was doing something behind his back. Remember those this dude. Okay, for those who haven't, never tuned into the show before, years and years ago. Seems like a hundred, but it's more like whatever, twenty or something. Nate used to always play at this venue called the Espresso Bar. MMM, and they would have I think it was one night there was like a straight edge night or something, and is a strange band was playing. Yeah, lots of straight as bands played there. Okay, yeah, it's so because, you know, I was in with you. The other people tolerated me whatever, and I would always go there fucking super high and fucked up, because that's like that was my tribe, right, that's how I do. Yeah, I was part of it. There you go. So they're fucking rocking out and I see one of the DOS. You got like a shirt. It's like, yeah, no, booze, no whatever, clean living with the fucker. Yeah, some behind him was like flipping birds my hat and maybe like one of my birds was too enthusiastic and win that little gush of air tickle the back of this dude's neck and he turned around, he saw me like just going like fuck you, in like he wanted to kill me. Yeah, and one of the bounces there was one of your pals who's like no, no, no, you leave him alone. Don't fuck with this guy, because I would have getten killed. Yeah, man, but yeah, so, but he was serious. He was he wasn't joking. He was like don't you diss what I believe in. Man. Sure, well, but that's it's interesting you say that because in that example we were kind of being traveled against them like and, which is what we did. I mean that's just, like I said, it's part of like humanity is just like you know, we we probably mocked them too, but but you know, like my main issue I didn't, like I said, I don't really care if someone's clean. It's that in your face, like you said, the shirt, you know, whatever. It said some like aggressively anti drug message and like, I don't know, it wasn't one of those killier local drug dealers, sers but it was something you know what I mean. And so, yeah, we kind of probably rebelled against them to yeah, Ye had a tramp stamp...

...of Nancy Reagan that I think Evans to. Yeah, man, just let you know my ass. But you know, an interesting thing that I didn't really mention in the piece is that you always see straight edges. They'd always have this big black X on their hands. That was kind of the symbol, was the x on the hands, like the back of the hands, and that is kind of like I mean, I know people have gotten that tattooed on their hands and do you know the origin of that? It's interesting because, like the hardcore scene, a lot of these bands would play and the younger kids would want to go to the clubs or or even the bands were younger and they were straight edge and the clubs wouldn't let them in if they were under age to drink. They would let them in but they'd put a big X on their hand, which meant no drinking. It was kind of just a symbol for the club to see and then but then they just adopted that as a symbol. So yeah, you know, I see these dudes walking around the big x's on their hands and and yeah, you know, we knew some people that were straight edge. I had some friends that were, and they were the cooler ones. And I'm probably overreacting to some of it. I know not. It wasn't like there was constant beef, like the sharks versus the jets, with the fucking stoners in the hard qure kids. It wasn't like that, but I definitely saw a violence because of it. And again now, as an older person, I see that. Yeah, it's tribal thinking. It's, you know, just one more way to feel, like you said, like you're part of something, and that's all well and good. The problem comes when that being part of something is made stronger by like finding an enemy, you know, a common enemy, and that's that's just always the case. As you know, there's nothing that brings people together like a common enemy. Sure, very true, whether it's manufactured, fabricated whatever. But I mean, sorry, I get it too, because I don't do drugs anymore. I don't party. I on that vacation I had one beer and I was like, Whoa, I feel a little little funk, it little little fresh. Yeah, like, can you believe this is the same guy who used to drink like a thirty rack and fucking shots and Mugg let's keep going, motherfuckers. Now I'm like one beer, oh, I'm good. But my thing here is the pregaming for a show, because we were like, Hey, you get the you get some Jibiz. Yeah, you want to smoke, see dope, you want to drop some massive the show is going to start in an hour. And across town these guys were like a show start in an hour, you get your Sharpie fucking a right, I do. Let me see your fist X. Yeah, it's different pregame rituals. Yeah, yeah, and I would I would be inclined to think if I was straight edge, because I am kind of right now and you know, unintentionally. MMM, my whole thing would be the to not show it, to not being out there like hey, let be a fucking drug free just now. No, I'm just living life, man. You just naturally assume everybody, everybody is drug free, I guess in general. Yeah, that depends on how you live, I guess. Like, the funny thing is I see that movement and like it's like a symbol and a group based on not doing something. It's like it's like I'm part of a club that doesn't collect stamps. Yeah, like that's our thing. We all don't do something together, like. But, but, like I said, if formed in that whole scene where there are these nihilistic punks that were yet killing themselves with drugs and booze and, you know, just self destruction, putting safety pins through their faces, like. But if it was, I saw they got their fucking kicks. Man, you know, you just brought up a good thing. I imagine I must be a society out there of people against posted raising pigeons. MMM, it's so. Yeah, fuck that man, stamps, no way, you fucking we fly. Our Mail is Air Mail, all right either. Right, fucking cookie do there you go. Yeah, send that letter, mom, go, fly, fly, yeah, so well, cool man. Yeah, well, we're cool, dude. Yeah, so I and what happened to these guys? We get to see how they turned out, right, I know, I'm curious. Yeah, because I know, like fucking some of the people we party with hardcore back in the day did. Okay, some are summer dead, don't get me wrong, but some of the other ones. So we're it. I don't I'm not a mathematician. I can't give you exact odds here or whatever statistics, but wonder how many straightedge dudes like fucking safety pin to dude through an eyeball and fucking went to jail. I know well, I knew a good amount of straightedge kids that eventually stop, you know, stop being straight edge or started smoking weed or whatever. Like sometimes it's just a fat it's just the thing, the phase, you know, you go through and I don't know, I mean they're then there's the militant...

...ones that are like well, if you even slip up once, you can't call yourself straight edge anymore. Like that. Like look it up sometime. Like the whole straight edge movement is kind of kind of crazy. But and there's a lot of history to it, you know, like I said, there were bands that took the whole thing beyond just drinking and drugging and meat eating, that they started a whole Chrishna, like Harry Krishna, element to it. And you would think that doesn't go like you think of the Harry Christnas as these dudes and robes with bald heads, given out books and airports or whatever flowers. But now, like these bands wrote some pretty cool music. Some of these bands of band shelter when I was younger. I remember they were this Krishna conscious band, but their music was pretty damn good, man. So a lot of these bands are good. If you're into like high energy punk, it's I mean it's a brace of it's kind of shouted vocals and and stuff. But Joe is Suzu Harry Krishna in a movie airplane, was he was? That him got empty nest. David Leisure. He Go, yes, David Leisure, he played Joe is Susi. Wow, man. Yeah, and he was also, I think was a movie airplane. He played a Harry Krishna. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. It's been a while. Yeah, man, I'm a fucking I am like tod, you need your shoes tied. I'm a dude right now, man, I am fucking putting it all together, man, I am fucking linking it, okay, linking it, piling it all on. I do not know what's in my coffee. One group I will never understand is what you mentioned about the celibacy thing. That's blame, so fucking lame. Like I gotta Promise Rings on, man. Yeah, like, what's part virginity? How long like until you get married? Is that the thing? Like, Oh, yeah, fuck that. Yeah, man, it's like not test driving the cary. You can't. You can't do that. Yolo, man, you only live once. ME. Well, that experience of Shit. That's my point of view. Experience what you can experience while you're here to response knows. Yeah, well, you know, to a moderation is cool. I tried the whole lack of moderation thing. Yeah, a long time. So I can say I did it and you know, whatever, I'm done with it. You know, hopefully you live through it and whatever. I'm not straight edge nowadays, but I definitely have toned down and I try not to be to live a dive patterns anymore if I can avoid them. Yeah, but but now I go skiing, so I'm gonna go do that. I used to be straight edge and then I joined Heaven's gate. So, yeah, I can't wait to jump on that hail BOP. fucking any man. I'm not talking about the hands and song. No, no, No, Hail Bob Hey HAL BOP. Yeah, yeah, get nutred Hail Bob Boop, but I'm did it that a dude? Where am I nuts? Yeah, anyway. So anyway, as right. That's how we're fucking experts. So what we do? We're done talking about something. So Huh? Yeah, anyway, yeah, anyway, welcom trying to wrap it up. I got a pain in a bathroom. Yeah, you do. You gonna go paint? Yeah, this is exciting stuff. Where you're going to paint a bathroom. Wall paper is out, paint is in, pain is in and it's a bathroom. So we use a blue tone. But some with people with bathrooms, they always like they put like ocean scenes or shells. I do that, you know, pictures of fish, like it's like, I understand, it's a bathroom, so this water. So maybe that's what ties it, but I just never really understood it. It's like what do you want to feel like you're pissing in the beach or well, let me tell you, sir, good sir. I we moved into where we're living now. I told my wife I want my bathroom to remind me of Amity Island. Okay, because I love the movie jaws. Okay, no, not like when I was sitting on the toilet, some jumps out and bites me in my fuck and Bunghole. Yeah, that's hey bruce, that's my sphincter teeth off. But my wife was like, okay, well, here's the idea. Let's like get crafty, you know, let's make some stuff. And she's like bought like shells, a hot glue gun and shadow boxes and anchors and all this weird shit. And we did. We made a bunch of stuff and my bathroom look really cool, into the theme I was going for for like three months and then like shit to start falling apart. Uh Yeah, like everything we put together were just it wasn't made to last. So I don't know if he's like the steam from the shower, sorry to disintegrate the hot glue. That where you maybe use cheap hot glue, I don't know, but like all the little decoration. So now the only thing I have in there is like a lighthouse I didn't make. I bought at like Hobby Lobby, to which we should it's gotten everything at hobby lobby to begin with. But I think because, you know, I guess, tying everything together, it makes you think you're on...

...vacation when you're in the bathroom. Yeah, get away from it all. Yeah, well, you evacuate your bow no, better, better way or time and just, yeah, escape reality. Like life sucks, man. But when I'm in here doing exactly as you just described, I'm thinking I'm in fucking Kn Koon or Nan tucket or amity island, like just when you thought it was safe, Toyah could dump. Yeah, just when he died. Yeah, I assure you. I sure everybody. The toilet is open. Yeah, I would love to have like a Mare van jacket with it. I think we need a bigger toilet. Yeah, well, I, Hey, hey, now now you talking. But yeah, but you're not in it. If you could your ideal bathroom, what would it be? M Look like a cave or an outhouse something. Just feel like dirty when you're in there just fucking. That's that's what I'm into. I'm it's a filth really make it look like a cave. Yeah, that's where I could consert my hair plug. It's like a hibernate nut shit for six months. I don't even use that bathroom. Okay, desinal fortitude to man, it's bar DNA. I'm laughing at that way too much laurable. That would be. I collect my poop and use it as manure. But because I was a straight edge and Vega. Oh Yeah, my poop is booed, agradable. Nothing gets thrown away. Nothing. Oh No, what do you think of the corn? We replanted poop and we planted Oh God, no, but seriously, you rather have your bathroom dark like a cave? No, no, I'm black. Yeah, on a goth bathroom. Yeah, a gothroom. I got room, great, black makeup. And then, as I say, and like his leather, Black Robert Smith is in there. Yeah, it is your a brush, you all, you ab rush to him. Yeah, Oh, Robber Smith of the cure hair spray. Yeah, Black, the curtain rod is just like it's chains and like spikes on the curtain. Yeah, Mirrorsh and lipstick like written on they're like fucking woe and regret. HMM. Oh, yeah, you Goth Room. So your bathroom. Oh Man, maybe I'm gonna Change How I'm painting this bathroom now. I got a bunch of ideas. Yeah, yeah, don't go, don't go putting those in your head. HMM, this isn't your bathroom. You're not allowed to fucking freelance or free ball or whatever the hell you want to go, Spitfire whatever. I can't say a word. So, yeah, all right. Well, I I got my laugh. So I gotta go. Yeah, I gotta go to you go paint. I'm gonna go read some comic books. got some good woods this week. We both got work to do. Yeah, well, I wouldn't consider mine work necessarily. It's mine is much more enjoyable. I can go lay down in my bed, read some comics and, yeah, probably laughed to myself again. Think about the pluck. All right, dude, Oh gosh, I'm a terrible human being. Human being, okay, so, anyway, see, I just did it again. Look at that. Hey, hey, you know, it's telling someone wants to get off the phone. Anyway. Fairway, I am Dave. We am good. Ahead of myself, I want to thank everybody first for listening before I start introducing myself in the outro. Virtual hugs for all of you. Thank you for taking the time to listen today. We appreciate it. Hopefully we entertained you at least shred or iota of the last I just had. This is an out reduction, owt reduction, out because it's painful, painful to say good bye. But yes, my appreciation goes out to you. I am Dave, that is nate and this has been the selling out show. You S.

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