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On this episode of a podcast with a purdy mouth: Dave is heated over the cold in Texas. He rages over the statewide failures related to the snow and lets it all out on the representatives of the Lone Star State. We also discuss the death of Larry Flynt, mummified masturbators, and Nate's Notes details the decades long descent of Marilyn Manson.

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You know the argument would be well.Should I prepare for my my nipples turning into balloons. Is thatsomething I should be worried about floating off in the atmosphere andNeveirg to be seen again I mean really. If something only happens, you knowonce in a lifetime event, should we really be that concerned about it? Yes,you should, because we are obligated to take care of people. You are elected toin fact care for your constituents, you, mother, fucker. What it does is breaches intouo brainchemically and do Keac your happiest memory chemically and in blocks on thatemotion, N preased it chemically, and then it keeps your happy happy hello,hello, hello and thank you for tuning into the selling out show where wescrew up life at our leisure. For Your listening pleasure, I am one of yourhost David shelts and over here by my side I have my good pal and buddy incrime, mate. Gorzynski nate. Should we talk about the weather, Hi Hi, Hi hi?How are you just I'm good, youjust calld me your buddy ind crime. Did Iyeah? That's a God thing, TAT's! That's how you got TA. Do it? That's cool yeah!Well, hey we're friendly criminals. We get along while we perpetrate yeah, Wer,buddies, yeah buddy sit together. That's what I'm telling the COPS! I'mlike this is my buddy and crime. It's not my partner he's Mi a boddy he's,not my Coa efendant he's my buddy and crimes right, but no dude, I'm doingall right! I'm exhausted! It's yeah! It's my body is weary. I've! I don't know these last couple dayshave been have done. A number on my on my my bodyjust physically and it's been selfinflicted. I've been a bitexercising a lot more like as I've. I think I mentioned last episode, I'mlike doing really well and them, and I started kind of jogging, which is athing I never did. In my whole life, I've always been a smoker. So I neveryeah had the yeah, the lung capacity or the desire yeah w seem silly, but being a pandemic and being the factthat I live on the back roads with no like sidewalks or anywhere really toescape the traffic. I've been running in my house. Just back and forth andlike the day, I'm serious man I'll just I'm lifting weights in the House I'lljust in between sets, do like a couple laps around the house and it's onlylike a hundredth of a mile. You know what I mean back and forth it's unlikedoing it like back and forth the back on foot dude. Yesterday I jogged in myhouse back and forth five miles to I have A. I have a thing on my wrist likea Apple Watch that keeps track, and so then today, obviously I couldn't walk,because I've never run five miles in my life. I've been, like you know, Oka. Iavoided running like the plague. My legs don't know what's happening sotoday we get all this snow you mentioned. Should we talk about theweather? Well, I went out and had to snow blow with my sore ass calves and I on t know it was about three inchesof snow. Maybe so I heard you where you are down in thesouth down in Tehas Yeah Texas has yea yeah you're suffering a little morewith the snow. From what I understand. Howver things for you- yes indeed, butbefore we get to me, this is something that is kind of astounding. My littlebrain right now is the fact that you're, like yeah man, I'm doing sets I'mcurling man, I'm pumping on and just take off running like around thekitchen into my Dan and then I'm like...

...yeah five miles in a day, but you knowreally what you should be doing, because I mean yo no running is juststupid. You know I don't these people who are like and don't get me wrong.The more the Merrier, whatever makes you happy in life, is fine as long asyou're not hurting anybody yeah, but these people, like yeah man, theEndorphin, rush everything else. I feel great. It makes me I'm overflowing withjoy. I say why don't you just master Bate, yeah, really yeah? Well, the masterBationis good is just that feeling doesn't last as long do that runnershigh, I see what they're talking about now. It lasts a little longer bro itswhat or you mastebate while you're running, that's something I could get into nyeah. I feel like I feel like I could mess that up and die like a David,carrotyand type thing. If I wasn't careful, we found him with his penis inhis hand. He was on the floor. He tripped on his fucking shorts that weredown around his ank yeah, but see I was all ready to like conceive the nextfitness craze and you're like well. It is kind of it could be lethal yeah, butI will have you know that I can't remember: Was it Pum Pey or somethingwhere the unearth, like all the people recently and they found the one guy and he's been preserved for all theseyears and he was masturbating at the point of his death? I envy this is real yea. This is legitman. This is absolutely legit. He's about to Croak. It's up is pompey. Iwas right because I am actually looking at theInternet right now, because the Internet is a quite a handed tool andyeahs a few years ago. They unearth this guy and there he was. You knowjust tugging on a rug. I think you should goaround your life, always master. Being in case it's your last namen nowoviousl you just don't s be ready, don't know, but that guy is a fuckinghero throughout the ages. I don't care but y a back to my weather situation,so we can kind of change gears here, not talk about deceased people pullingtheir pud. Yes, I am still right now without hot heat and water. I have electricity.Obviously a since we're not communicating via you know, soup canand string right and I don't hear a generator onin yeah, but it has beenfrigging miserable and you might remember when I was young in my earlyies, I had an apartment and I refuse to turn on the heat right and my friendswould say: Dude is cold an here. Man Turn the heat on. I say I'm not payingfor you guys to stay warm and I just o another Hoodie or whatever so like itwas a big apartment to so it would have cost a lot of Heata exactl yeah right.We should, I should probably should have pointed it out. So people couldrealize that I am a cheap skate, but this is yeah. This is legit yeah, toolegit to quit in this circumstance, but the thing was is like that train me,I'm I can handle freezing temperatures because I just layer I'm from NewEngland originally. So I can, you know, handle this stuff, but the thing thataffects me more is not having water, because I am a shower Aholic. HMM. I amalways showering at Lea at least two times a day wow. So for now to be, I think it'slike day, three or four of me, Tota in my own filth, Jesus licking yourselflike a cat. No, no, not e!! you got to make do an Youdo, SOM,true right! Well, the funny thing was today I was invited to a person's houseto take a shower. You would think I would hop at the opportunity to do so,but for me it's like I don't like using public toilets right. I can't I'll waitlike eight hours until I get home. You'll never see me like sitting on andMakei Tese crappershit break yeah yeah. So I'm like well all right. You know,there's a possibility the water might come on today. So let me take a gambleon that and you know kind of maybe keep that weird shred of my dignity. I don'tknow that I'm so like I don't know even know why I'm protecting it, but still Iha a gamble and yet again in the...

...history of gambling and me, I lostbecause the water is still off wow you're a proud, stinky dude. No, I'mnot proud. I do this soorks too proud to take a shower from someone else.It's just to me. I don't know man, it's like it's one thing. If you're likestaying over someone's house for the weekend or if you're you know I mean,but this is like someone I barely know, and I appreciate the offer- don't getme wrong yeah, but for me it's just so awkward. I don't know I just don't likethe idea of it. Just I guess man, that's like a reallypersonal space. Sure I mean I can't really relate because dude I've been inhomeless, shelters and prisons and places where you got a shower like notjust in somebody else's stuff but were tons of other people and gross peoplehave been. You got to wear shower shoes and hope your feet. Don't accidentllyhit the floor. T you know well, so I think you would have had a hard timedoing. You know hard like sometime because yeah because you'll getyou ahard time, fair to say yeah but yeah, becausepeople people fight you. If you start smelling, you know no. I yeah. I Bet Imean. Luckily the temperature has been socold here in Texas Tehasla, because you know the government here sucks or abunch of fucking morons idiots. I don't even know don't mess with TexasO. I don't even know if I want to get started on that, but Fuck Ed cruise he's on can coud. He took he took offyeah he cam', but he came back when he got busted Yeoi had to escort my kids.You know: Hes No fucking, bullshit, Reno Reci, trying to save his own ass,Greg. Abbit, the governor trying to blame everything on windmills and waslike these fucking idiots man like here's, a problem I have with this,though right everybody here is outraged whether you'R, what party you know youbelong to it doesn't matter, you can be Republican. You voteed fo, Tak cruiseright now, you're mad at Hem right sure I didn't, but still I'm mad at himanyway yeah. But the thing is this: Isn't going to last, like I keep seeingthings now on the news like this is really going to hit the the gop hard,an Texas, all this disaster stuff going on, and these tweets are going to comeback to hunt them how they were taunting, California and everythingelse, and I'm like no, it's not gonna. They won't right, nothing! Nothing hasstaying in power anymore. In six months, people will forget about this they're,going to bring up something else, of course, Yo all. Thanks to the wholeforce, feeding, people, the Fox News, narrative or Q card conspiracies meantto rile up their base. Everything else that's truly happening is going to getswept underneath the rug when realistically this, this is a nightmare that every person in Texasshould be completely outraged for the rest of their lives over it's it's. Itwas not that much snow. It really is a massive failure, yeah just toall on theboard, and then you know the more you read about it: the Angrier you getbecause you realize that this has been decades long, ignoring the problem,because he think okay, it's never going to happen here. So let's not worryabout it or LES's, not B money into the imfrastructure or anything like that,because the odds of it happening are so small and it's been discussed andbrought up and and they jus Sayi fucking fuck it. You know yeah, it'snot e, conservatives don't believe in climate change or anything that couldpossibly change the weather patterns. You know what I mean so they're, nottoo worried down there, but you know now: I'm preay suffering, yeahneverybody's fucking eating shit and they us, like Awel, I'm off Te Cancoun,going to escort my kids because they have a week off from school and it waslike a woat. I think he took off on like a Wednesday or Thursday to so. Ihad a bunch of luggage with them like yeah, like more than enough to justdrop your kid off. You know he he told Yeah just so. The listeners, if they're,not familiar ted crews, was spotted like slyly trying to slink away toCancun. Somebody just happened to film him on an Iphone at the airport and he was confrontedand he's like. Oh My, my kids were...

...going down there and I was just goingto drop him off and head right back to to fight with you guys, for you know tomake sure this gets taken care of, and it's like. No, you weren't. They lookedat his itinerary and he had books more time than he ended up spe staying it'slike. He changed his plans once he was caught, so he looked. You know the guysalready got the most punchable face in history. I'm not even a big fan ofpunch of people in the face, and I want to punch mem in the face. You know whatI mean like I'm, not I'm not particularly violent guy, but Ted cruishas a face that you know. No, no jury would convict you yeah. Unless it was.You know a couple judges AP pointed by, but Don'wel didn't Lindsaey, Grahameven say. If he was murdered on the Senate floor, no one would evengoimurder. You know I mean like this guy. He rano. I think I even broughtthis up on the show before, because I H D moved here when Bato Arorick wasrunning against him for the s seat and, of course I voted Beto, but during oneof the debates, because there was this whole thing throughout the entirecampaign, where Ted crews kept going crazy running commercials, everythingabout how Beto was going to legalize fentinal, like that was like one of his things heserious this. He was like going nuts about it. Like do you want fentinallegal lizes for Texans? If you do then vote for Batol Rock and you like dude,who the fucking the right mind would leave lives. Had you know I mean or whowould believe that he would well as apparently plenty of people, becauseeven during one of their debates now this is true. Ted cruize had a sisterwith a drug problem who died well, yeah, terrible right. You feel bad or a simpsympathetic for anybody, but he had to bring this up during the debate likeyou could tell. This, motherfucker was practicing in front of the mirror allnight long to try to like fain any sort of emotion or sadness over one of hisown family members to yet again say to batoor work on a debate stage. Youwould legalize fencinal. How could I ever allow that to happen, especiallywhat happened after what occurred with my poor eparted, the sister and you'relooking at it me like? That is the fakest fucking thing: Yeah Yeah he'slike capitalizing off her death he's you know and he was like it yeah reallylike he is us a fucking scummyest of all these fucking scum bags. You knowmean Le me. Dudeli me, slammy, dude, slimy, evil, just evil, fucking pieceof shit he's a cunt he's a Fuckin worthless gut him and Greg Abbot. The Ofucking rots in the Pitza hell together, they're evil, theyre wrongy, Oh my God,it's terrible! So I know W it's like. I guess we totally fit in the theme ofthe RM Song. They started singing at the beginning of the show. Should wetalk about the whether yeah we talk about the government anhere? We are youknow, but but realistically they're tied. You know in hand because w what'shappening here, because yet again to reiterate, there wasn't a bunch of snowhere. It's just that. There's no resources to tack all such an issue. Wedon't even have plougs man. I don't even see people plow on the streets.Well, E's been latyers to, I said, were sitting there for days and with thecold temperatures they just yeah. They just sat there. Ind made conditionslippery now right a few days ago. I had to call ninehundredd one not for meso don't worry, but for a neighbor who is having a little bit of distress, Iwon't go exactly into the nature. What they were dealing with, but point is, Icalled nine hundred and one for them, and I was on hold for over twentyminutes. Waiting to Geit, wo, INE hundred and one I understand, listen isbusy right. People freaking out all over an there's, probably accidents allover the road. legit emergencies are happening under such conditions,completely totally get it, but to be so unprepared that you cannot get someoneto answer a nine ne one call one agent. One Representative: Anybody in overtwenty minutes is fucking lethal. Yeah, that's inexcusable man, that's crazy!Now, luckily, the person wasn't dying...

...of a heart attack or stroke, orsomething like that. So I did take the police quite a while to arrive. I thinkit was an hour after I originally originally called, but God forbid, ifyou were a senior or again somebody with a health condition, you you'regoing to die somebody overdosing or Someh Day. You know what I mean: That'sman, your fucking dendand. This is in Dallas Texas. A major metropolitan cityin the United States of America could not GE troue to nine Hunde one. Now Iposted this on our social media at selling out show. So if you don'tfollow us on twitter, make sure you do is along with our other outlets. Iguess look. Look at looup come her go selling Ouso on facebook. You go careof that one YEP nates all over that bad boy, but the thing is, I just cannot get over how unexcusablethis whole event has been. It's just there's a lot of things that we we aren't even aware that we should beworried about like who would have thought Texas. Would I had to worryabout that shit? Well, I guess all the climate change people, Yeah Yeah.Everyone warning that theire massive massive changes happening. Yeah! That'sthe thing is like: If you talk to these fucking right wing, nut jobs are goingto say, like Oh yeah. Well, this hasn't happened N in thirty years in never gotthis cold and and who coal forsee this and that and Bah Blah. Well, dudethings happen right. You don't believe in global warming, will shit fuckinghappens and then you know the argument would be well. Should I prepare for mymy nipples turning into balloons. Is that something I should be worriedabout floating off in the atmosphere and never to be seen again, I meanreally. If something only happens, you know once in a lifetime event, shouldwe really be that concerned about it? Yes, you should, because we areobligated to take care of people. You are elected to in fact care for yourconstituents, you, mother Fucker, you know what I mean, but not here, buddyand listen, I'm not trying to dig a hole for the GOP. You know I can'tstand Republicans. You know that, but realistically all pretty much everypolitician on the face of the Earth at least ninety nine point: nine percentof them don't give a fuck about you. They just want to lion their walletswith lobbyist money and have a good old time enjoyed their yachts, theircelebrity because now thi's what politics is all about? How many twitterfollowers you have. You know I mean that's what they think they're fuckingrock stars more than anything because it's just fucking stage. This is alltheater for them for their brand, pretty crazy yeah. You know what I mean.So it's we suffer, people don't fucking matter anymore. Uti, don't isridiculous and what gets me is how people can just live in those bubbles.Believe everything that their politicians say. Anybody says really. Imean you've got to always question authority right. When do we start doingthat? I don't care like. I voted for Joe Biden e that something fuckingstupid, I'm going to call thim out for it. I'm going to question his decisionof something he's doing. I don't like right this. You don't blindly followhim. You K yeah right. Exactly Yu not just grazing in the field of bullshityeah, it seems like here now that I live in Texas man. So many people arethese fucking sheep out there. Just like, oh whatever you said, follow him.He has the stick. He's got that weird curby. Stick. I don't know the name forH, those the crook, the Shepherds Crooke. Is it a crook, less iy think sothat's a grit! THAT'S ON BRAND! Is You know Mea I'm an. I know what you'resaying that I think thea there's definitely become this strange yeahfollowing like idle worship of of Party. You Know Party over country and that'sit's. It's gotten crazy. It's like yeah. What happened to this dude is a pieceof shit. So let's call him a piece of shit like we don't have to like pretendhe's good, just because he's on our side and if we have a shitty candidate,the other side of my win. God Forbid, you know it's like that seems to bewhat happened o you know over on the right. Specifically, I mean it happenson both sides, I'm surr, but it was a pretty glaring example with the lastfour years. You know. Yes, I don't know.

I'm sure enough's been said about that,but you know hopefully we'll be rid of talking about this at some point. Yeahright now, that's not going to fucking happening. I know it seems like awaytoo much. I Yeh ridiculous and I would rather never talk about it again to beperfectly honest with you, I'd rather thin, its n boring, Vanilla, fuckingpoliticians out there that just yeah, you know I N, even if they crooked, wedon't hear about just let them fuckng go off in their own little fucking neckof the whizs, but the thing is: Is Dude like Tak cruise to with his whole liketrying to be a good dad thing and Spi it. He might as well have just said,like. Oh, the best way to inspect frozen wind turbines is from thirtythousand feet and trying to fuck him. You know what I mean he like I did. Ijust can't fucking get on. He wasn't even clever this. What I mean Heshusyeah, his excuse is fucking terrible and then, like someone like questionsabout him about it again, he scoffs like. Oh, how do you ask me thisfucking question? I just addressed it. It's like well, because we don'tbelieve you right. That's why and then he went and got a couple cops to like ascored him after Thi saw footage after that of people following him, and thenhe had like called a couple cops over because I was tired of being confrontedand asked you know like he felt he felt assaulted it rigtened. He is want to becanceled. You can't get Tak cruise GD. I Sai Take Cruis right now. I punch himso hard in the asshole. I'd be buried up to my fucking elbow and it'd be goodtoo, because I'm cold. So you know my forarm would be warmwith his C reckard heat yeah ice fit tis right to the buttle. An take cruise.Take that Ucock Sucker, Oh my God. He makes me so angry. Well, I will say asmuch as we usually don't talk about politics. We have a couple times now:COMEO episodes yeah, but I feel like listen. We can just say this is ourtribute to the memory of rush Limba, who also just died O. I don't want totalk about funy thing about that funny I mean I don't know what to say aboutit, but the thing is like you know, a lot of people were celebrating that hedied. You know and t en it gives the other side to make. You know. Oh, lookat these guys, the dancing on the motherfuckers grave thir's, terriblethis an that and it becomes another thing. It's a whole o yeah and yeah,but he was the beginning of this whole like like crucify, the other side. You knowjust like. Oh I understand yeah I get it like. He was Hartas in Bittan, poysehatred, yeah exactly I RMEMBER Hem fucking all that Shit with don of inmcnabb back in the day and he's a racist, fucking, evil prick just likeTho rest of them. So you know it is what it is. But I did not want to talkabout him one bit because there's been another death that I think is way moreunderreported under disgust and a man. You may have questioned his morals, hisethics, who he was a person, but he deserved a lot of credit and that wasLarry Flint Right, Oh yeah. I know we haven't really taught. We haven'ttalked about him. That happened. I think, since our last episyes- and Isaw that- and I mean I didn't honestly O be- I wasn't even sure if he wasalive or dead at that point. Like is that true didn he die like five yearsago. Bendela affects yeah yess. One of those deals right, but I mean still, ifyou think about free speech and and if you like, Smut, like most adults, doLarry Fliz, who doys like the character and hy yeahan hated Jerry Falwell. Sothat's importent was an unlikely hero. He was definitely a soldier in the fight for for freespeech, free expression, they would say free speech, never helps the speech youlike you know. The free speech laws help the speech that you don't want tohear. You know they protect speech. You don't like that. You know the thingsthat most people would find objectionable. We were talking aboutnot eulogizing people that don't deserve to be, and when you mentionedJerry, Falwell Larry Flint had the...

...famous feud with Jerry Follwell, theleader of the religious right, the whole, whatever moral majority, allthat ship Jerry Fallwell when he died. I rememberChristopher hitchins another my favorite thinkers speakers, writers,said. If you gave Jerry follwell an anima before he died, you could haveburied him in a matchbox and I thghwellal shit. I thought that'spretty much what I a yeah, you could say about rush Limba as well. Well, youknow in memory of Larry Flint someone who, I think is actually more deservingof a tribute. I would like you to repeat a line that we used to laugh at quiteoften, and you know exactly what I'm talking about your Continu. Pleasethere was an old o. There was some old footage of Larry Flint, don't know ifhe was opening a porn store, coffee shop. playerod. Youknow this new idea and he ai he was being interviewed andsoone was like. What do you think you know Madonna would come in in order andhe goes ithink Stra to have a Capatino and a but PLOK. What do you think pops on folor? Have ILia Lot Tan a dot? That line is always stuck with me. Manlike just like random moments. I my in my whatever existence. I would hear alot Ta and a Dil Do ell miss you Larry Fo E. Yes, exactlyhe important. We almost missed you already, because we didn't know youeryeah. I've still right see that, because I'm an idiot, that's nothing new and speaking ofidiots before we get off the topic. I just read something today thatCatbury creamegs. You know I love them. I've talked about him on this show somany times now I buy him in bulk, Git Easter and I freeze them and I jus sayeven go to in your, but wherever wherever right now is probably thecoldest spot on the face. Thereso yeah and I can't wait to get my hands onthose Cabury Creamas, but they just release a commercial okay and it hascaused outrage- oblly, Oh yeah, with yet again conservative groups, becauseit's a little bit of a saucy commercial and they suggest that you can sharethem any way that you like in one scene at the end of the Commercial Dropin,the Mike has two men in a kiss sharing a cadbury creamegg now to opponentsacadury cream eggs. I can see you going, you know, sharing a Cabury creameg inthat fashion could be fairly disgusting. I get it yeah, but that that doesn'tmatter what sex you are, because it's just because the cabry cream MeggisGooy in the center few yeah ad break. I love them, but some people are theyjust don't like them. Because of that consistency, and I get that sure sure,but still because you're homophobe, you're freaking out over a commercialfor Cadbury, Creamegg sying the destroling, the idea of chocolate forthe youth corrapting them to which I say, fuck you more cadburycream eggs. For me, you fucking prejudiced piece of shit right. Go youchick filet, well, take the Cadby Crean Egg Sonner, Oh yeah! Seriously, thoughI mean like I don't get this this whole fucking,like everybody's freaking out over you can't cancel Ginu Surano on theMandalorian ecause. She said something on Showshu, media and N. The moment youshow two guys kissing on a fucking commercial for a Goddamn Candy. It'slike twenty six housend petitions, Rollingto CA, yeah exactly boy caughtthis candy is he keep come on people? Do we realize this is the lunacy? Thisis the insanity that we surround...

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...over his thin pale body and eyes, withseemingly no colored Iris, just tiny black pupils at this time. Oddlycolored contact lenses, weren't really seen outside of the movie industry, sowe in the audience were properly creeped out and intrigued. He mixed theblack latex leather and other Goth trappings with Candy Stripes and othercarnival motives, juxtiposing contrasting imagery to make the viewerquestions, systemic beliefs and their own conventions, even the name. MarilynManson fused, two names that were equally famous but for very differentreasons in some sort of clementaryon celebrity at the time all the otherband members knee spooky kids had similar pinup girl, serial killer,pseudonyms Madonna Wayne, Gasi twiggy, Remirez, daisy, Berkeit, et Cetera. Themusic was a punkier sort of industrial, then Ninice nails played and whereresner took some jabs at religion. In between his love, songs, Manson focusedmostly on anti Christian sentiment and challenging conservative societalconventions. You need to remember at the time the US was far moreconservative than as Marilyn Manson grew in popularity and his loud speakergot bigger. So did the backlash from the media. I know this is turning intoone of my artist biopieces, and I don't mean for that. To be the point of this,I'm just trying to set the stage, so the kids started hopping on board theManson train, despite all the daytime talk, shows proclaiming him to be thedownfall of our society, personified his fame. Only seurged. He publiclyallied himself with a previous generations convention troll AntonLavey, the founder of the Church of Satan. He wrote a memoard detailing allkinds of rock star antics and sexual debauchery that I will touch on a bitmore in a little while he toyed with fascist imagery on stage he played withgender norms and challenged traditional views on sexuality and beauty, allfairly significant actions when viewed through the Lens of Twentieth CenturySociety, though pretty juvenile and gross in execution. The point is that controversy wasn't aby product of his fame. It was the driving force. I One thousand ninehundred and ninety nine, as Manson's fame was on the decline. The massshooting at Columbine High School brought him back into the spotlight,albeit mistakenly, because the shooters wore black trench, coats and otherpieces of MISANTHROPIC Regalia. All the news outlets assumed they were Mansonlisteners when actually even Manson was far to establishment for them, theirtastes, being more underground industrial in nature, but nonethe lessManson was being pointed to and even interviewed on many opinion shows andnews segments and it both rekindled his relationship with the nationalspotlight and solidified. His fan base against the media's criticism now to befair. Manson was unjustly accused in this case, but no publicity is badpublicity or so he thought fast forward about twenty years. Manson has become abloated irrelevant curiosity in the last couple decades put out somerecords- I guess nothing. I've checked...

...out has seemed even notable. It seemsthat his past celebrity was more a result of the errar in which he arosemixed with Trent resner's production. In the absence of those conditions,Manson's talent appears far less remarkable and it's hard for an aginggoth has been to spark controversy, or so it would seem. Recently. The actress Evan Rachel Woudwent on record with allegations of abuse in sexual misconduct directed atManson horrible things she endured while dating him years ago. In the wakeof this revelation, many other people have come forward to comment on notjust the truth in Miss Wood's claims, but on all kinds of shit bag behaviorthey witnessed, while in Manson's presence over the years, Guitarist West,Borland and even Trent resner himself have both spoken publicly about what aloathsome and abusive figure he is, how poorly he treats people, especiallywomen, as if all the people coming out of thewoodwork weren't enough. Remember how I mentioned a memoir filled with rockstar antics etcet earlier. Well, I read that book when it came out back when Iwas still somewhat intrigued by the controversial figure. I remember himdetailing the way he would treat girls who would make it back stage to partywith the band games involving the girls, eating lots of colorful fruity cerialinlaxatives target practice, while spitting at these female fans, nakedbodies urinating on them, making fun of a deaf fan while sexually exploitingher. It's been a long time since I read it, but I remember some of thosedetails. I also remember not listening to Manson much longer after that, sohere we are in two thousand and twenty one marilyn Manson or Brian Warner. Ifwe can use his real name, is now just another puffy creepy old entertainment,industry, Missag Anius type, nothing interesting to say still somehow courding controversy,though this time the controversy is eating him alive, like a praying Mantusthat bad boy, rock star, hedonistic persona he cultivated has become theFrankenstein monster that will ultimately put an end to him, or so wecan all hope. Yes, wild is crazy. Man Like I've, never liked Marilyn Manson,you know, but the thing was we were at like the perfect age when the height ofhis popularity hit- and I remember just so many people being sucked into this-and, like you said, controversy was more the content than the actual musicitself. You know what I mean right. Sometimes I mean I know we, like yousaid he use the imagery, and some of these lot lyrics were a little shockingor whatever, but it was like. Youd see people dressing up like him to get arise out of society as a whole. Right I get it rebellious, youth. You know whatI mean, but now yeah. It's amazing that it took this this long, this manydecades later for him to kind of have to pay the Piper for just nasty,terrible behavior. I mean we live in the post, Harvey WeinsteinAge. You know what I mean where people are finally taken a task forsome ofe terrible things. They've done now we to movement, O the MEETLA andit's all justified and deserved. I mean you on no retreated like a fuckinggarbage man and o yeah. I've talked about in the past. How sometimes Imistreated women but never dit. This degree again when I was young, because I hateto use the excuse, but you don't know any better, but I mean you just maybeyou would hat wron or you just you know again your young mind. Just wasn'tthere. I wasn't mature enough yet to...

...understand totally what was right fromwrong sure. But all this stuff is just insane and then here's something that'sgoing to sound terrible coming O my out of my mouth, but it's the absolutetruth. I didn't know he was dating, was name Evan, Rachel Wood from West WorldYeah and she seems like an incredibly intelligent and smoking hot woman. Whatthe fuck is she doing with Marilyn Manson he's obvous yotird yeah. She wasreally young. This was back. It was back like twenty years ago I mean evenRachel. Wood was was an actress back when you know she was like. I forgetthere. She was in a movie called thirteen that was like thiscontroversial movie because it was showing the shocking way like youngkids. It was one of the first movies that was like exposing how shocking Leeyou know. Mature young girls are being or acting d shit, so she was young whenshe started acting nd it and she was still a teenager legal. I guess, butstill a teenager when she was dating Manson. He just really took advantageof her and like had her like almost like a pet. You know what I mean likepeople would comment on how he treated her like an animal umoss. You know likehad her under his thumb on a leash, yeah S, crazy, possibly literally, butwell again, it's kind of like speak to it. Like you said she was really young.You know, I mean right. People take advantage of youth, you know, makes medidn't know any better. We understand we don't really. We can't. I don't knowyeah can grasp like what's right or wrong sometimes, and it's unfortunateand sad is terrible. You know, but the thing was with the Manson thing. I knowhe immediately tried to defend himself. Of course, he was already dropped fromhis record label and whatever project he had coming out, Trent resner waslike yeah this guys a shit bag exactly to which, though I wonder like you saidthese books have been written about him in the past, and these celebrities coming out againsthim. Now these men, who are supposedly friends with him yeah, why didn't theyspeak up a little bit earlier? Why did it have to be the woman'sresponsibility o get treates like shit to kind of say: Hey, that's a goodpoint. I don't know you know what I mean, but the thing is: is we talked alittle bit earlier to about cancel culture and how ere you Wen? You can'tcancel this and this, and that and whenit works both ways. I suppose, but the thing is it's like this is justyeah: What a fuck when there's a pattern:Rabbit yeah when there's like a pattern of behavior to the point where aperson's just a piece of shit like somebody like yeah, like what it'sturning out Manso. It wasn't just her like, like I said, all the right, thegroupies and the you know the girls, the fans that would come back stagelike there were horrible Shit Du. Like that, I read and I mean yeah, it wasn'tjust him Ay. He writes in his book about other band members and there'sactually some controversy because he wrote in it that part of those like youknow that debauchery that backstage shit involved, Trent resner. He wrotein the book because they used to tour together. As I mentioned, that's whereI first saw Manson and he was part of that camp kind of and eventually turnresener. You know hated him after a while, after he started getting too bigfor his. You know briches or whatever. But but the point is, he wrote, turnresner into some of that. Some of that memoir and trenresilute disputes it nowhe's saying you know, I had nothing to do with that, but you know ever Knoturn. Resin was a fucked up due bag. In the day too, I mean he's matured a lotmore apparently than Manson I mean trend. Risiners have been in a stablemarriage for years now you know and seems very sober and healthy andManson's. Just this yeah, like kind of yeah, he just looks like he's, beenridden hard and put away wet. You know, t looks like he's, had a rough line andhe still hasn't learned any lessons you know he's just my point was that peoplelike that or like bill cosby with a pattern of you, know mistreating peopleand just something has to be done. You can call it cancel culture, but whensomebody's that big of a piece of shit- maybe don't let them slide anymore, youknow maybe maybe take away some of their privilege if you a, and it has tobe accountability right. Exactly that's...

...the thing when people just double downon lies like we, it's just come on man. If you did it, you did it say you didit. Maybe you've learned from something. Maybe you grow, maybe you've changed. You know. All these things could happenis the evolution of of being but dude like I just I just cannot stand whenpeople will just deny shit tooth and nail compotect, whatever they'reholding ont to, and I understand, thirs millions of dollar stake e yeah. Wellfor him, I suppose is an image or what have you but yeah? I mean fetsh up man.Just do it tell say what you did you know come on. I know yeah, but hey. Youknow. It sounds like he's kind of fucked up that be wile. Obviously he'saffeckive dude to but like there was records of him saying that you know I'm hurting myselfind, it's your fault like he was like that's the type of psychological abuse.He would do. O Man I' like to know what our listeners think about anything wetalked about today. I'd brought up earlier that we have social mediaaccounts, twitter, the facebook instagram whatever whatever and email. So if youfeel free to write us an email, it's nice, it's like writing a letter homefrom us from, I don't know: you're traveling you're at war, whatever righthome, like you, love us, Tas, Gmail, yeah selling, out show at G Malcom.Well, this episode has been a hoot. Let me tell you Njo, hoot nanny, whoot,nanny yeah and I was cold before, but now I'm hot, with rage, yeatalkingabout fire, Yep, ted, cruis and Marilyn Manson and who would have thunk it? Youknow I mean really a now at's a weird weird. It's just. Imean it's great that we can bring up so many different people on the show thatPiss us off sure man hey whatever it takes to get you all fired up and warmnot think about this yeah xact, the Coldyeah. Well, hopefully, by the timethis episode is released, I will be cleaner. Let's fly yous swarming aroundmy pits, yeah, so pray. For me we can all hope Hashtag for me. WILL YOUPEOPLE ITS LY WAL OTS and prayers? Oh God, Oh Lord, here we go thoughts andprayers for Dave Hash Tag. HASHTAG! Oh yeah, actually, what would be a goodHashtag for me has to tongue bath tongue, BA? No, allright we're getting the fuck out of here. I want to think each and everyone of you for taken the time to listen to our program today and virtual hugsfor all of you. I am Dave that is nate, and this has been the selling out showPE W.

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