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I just over indulged myself with a large amount of soup, making show notes incredibly hard to write. But, I'm a warrior so I will press on...my keyboard. What happens on this glorious new episode of The Selling Out Show? For starters, Dave breaks a decades long personal streak that involves public rest rooms, the gents wonder if education is wasted on the young which turns into being pissed over the frauds at Fox News, and Nate takes a look at the public stigma of being a poseur. Included in that discussion are the band Tramp Stamps, Tekashi69 and Steely Dan (well, kinda). Listen to the episode, your brain stem will thank you.

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What it does is reaches into a brain chemically and locate your happiest memory chemically and then blocks on to that emotion and releases it chemically, and then it keeps your happy, happy. Hello, hello, hello, and thank you for tuning into the selling out show. Will we screw up life at our leisure for your listening pleasure? We have a fantastic episode plan for you today and some of the subject matter is a little icky, maybe gross, but then education or we shall see about all that. But Anyway, I am one of your hosts, David Schultzen. Over here by my side is my partner in crime, my good Buddy Nate Gore Zinski. Nathan, how you be? Man? I'm doing all right, man, I'm I'm ready to get real, if you know. Yeah, think, yeah, I think. I think we're all right for the for the brave listeners. Today we got some some good subject matter. I'm feeling good and yeah, it's been great. Feeling. Let's been great. It's summer. I'm happy, man. Yeah, I can't complain until you go into the big box store and everything now is fall. Right. Now it's back to school and in about two weeks it'll be Halloween. Even though, it'll be a hundred and ten degrees outside, because that's what big box does, baby, right. Yeah, man, for some there's seasons on you, we all. We all just buy from Jeff Bezos now so he can go to space anyway. So, Yep, yes, indeed. Well, I don't even know if he fully went into space, and think he's when the atmosphere. That's true. They, they, they didn't give him the the title. He wasn't bestowed the title of astronaut. Ah, that he wanted it. They turn him down. Whoever is in charge of that? Yeah, whatever, fine. Yeah, organization. That was like. You just went really, really high. You'Dn't even turn or touch and KNOB. You are a KNOB. Wasn't there a guy that like sky dove from that height, like not long ago, I think so. Yeah, yeah, there's like a extreme sports guy or something that dropped from that height. Yeah, there's something else going on, but it does seem like mega billionaires going to outer spaces dominated the news right last I don't know, forever, it feels like, but that's how new cycles work, right. Yep, just Stra you from what's really going on. That's right. Everybody hops on their socials their twitter their instagrams and talk about that incessantly rather than the real issues that we should be dealing with. But Hey, that is a great thing for me to segue because we do have social media and I never do this at the beginning of a show. So follow us on your socials at selling out show or on facebook at selling out show. One that was very expedient of you day. Thank you. That, yeah, out of the way. So yes, and we can just play. We yeah, this is our sandbox, baby, we can do whatever we want. And speaking of Sandboxes and expediency, my I guess I'm terrible to tell you about that happened to me this week. Oh boy, sorry one, it's tragic, scarring emotionally physically, and I wasn't maimed, I wasn't assaulted, nobody was hurt in the making of this story except for yeah, well, just wait, just wait. You See, let me, let me start this whole thing off by letting you find folks...

...out there know that I am a sucker for those big ass bags of popcorn. You know what I'm talking about, nate, I do, and I also am aware that you like things. I remember. I'm for a long time all my life. If I see a big bag of popcorn somewhere, I'm like, Ooh, I gotta buy that. Like it used to be at the gas station, you'd see the yard stick full of popcorn, the long, narrow bag. I forget exactly what size it was, but that's where all began for me, my addiction to the the popping corns. And now if you go to a Walmart or another grocery store, you see these big freaking you know, you write it's not good for you, you know it is it, but you just can't help yourself. Man, I did do yeah, quickly. I know that you're into popcorn of all stripes. You like you had a popcorn maker for a while, if I remember correctly, and still dud. You're just a popcorn dude, I am. I just can't escape it my whole life. So now that we established that I bought one of those big suckers, I brought it home, was watching little magnum Pi and I just realize shoving this stuff into my mouth, I mean there's no stupid butter everything. Yeah, whatever the Hell's on it. Whatever it is, it could have been oh lean, and I probably was. The way this story is going to go, trust you me. And for those who don't know what Oh lean is, you feel free to google it or know that it was a chemical or an additive that was added to pringles chips in the s that made everybody violently ill, to the point where the pringles company got sued. It was so anal leakage in the most violent manner. Yeah, it was terrible. It was like, you know, it was as big, for example, as the coronavirus pandemic, for sure, but for those who lived it and survived it, they might kind of like think about it in the same light as far as how jarring it was. You know what I mean? The same exactly, like we you say oh lean to someone, they cringe. Oh Boy, yeah, Oh boy, yes, it was nasty stuff. So, anyway, some was in this popcorn and I was feeling some serious discomfort for many days afterwards, and which was okay because I wasn't working at the time. I was home and I'm like, well, what are you gonna do? I I'm suffering from my love of the popping corn. I you know, I deserve this, is what I get. Yeah, but then one day I got to go back to work and I work with the public. I'm not going to say what I do because I like to keep people guessing. Sure, just hear my voice and imagine what I do. Yeah, I'm out in the wild with the rest of you, you folks out there, and anyway, long story short, or long story long, whichever. With this turns out, my stomach starts boiling over. I feel some bubbling, some Gurgling, some me right to the point where my butt hole was angry with me. So here I am doing my job and my asshole basically just starts fluttering. You ever have like one of those uncomfortable twitches in your eyeball and you're like, Oh my God, people going to see my eyeball freaking out? Well, that was my bung hole. It's like convulsing. Yeah, exactly. It was really just like convulsing. And here I am, my shift is almost over. So I'm thinking, just keep your ass whole shut when we're out ago. You can do it, baby, you can do it. Keep your asshole shut. Watch that palpitating anus. Yes, but this is my mantra right. This is going through my head, but it's not working. It is something's cooking and it's coming out exactly so at this point I'm like, this is this is crisis mode. Something, something's going down, and I take it's a matter of pride for me. Yeah, I haven't used a public restroom to do a number two in at least twenty years, at least ever since you start train spotting in that horrible is. It's almost like the old Seinfeld episode where he talks about he hadn't vomited since one thousand nine hundred...

...and eighty. Right, that was me. Yeah, was sad. Keep keeping thinking with a shit break, the character from American Pie, who would not use a public toilet. It would leave school to go home every time you had to go and rights. You know, I'm glad you just added that to the conversation, because that's basically how I live. Okay, and I'm happy about this. I'm like, I do not ever have to sit on a public toilet, which is fantastic. It is disgusting as Gross. Yes, you know, and I was always trained like you sit on the toilet, you're going to get herpes. And then even when you you put the Johnny down or the paper toilet paper down, you're afraid, like you you know, your wieners going to hit the side of the bowl and the next thing you know, you're going to get like a massive growth or something and have to go to the doctor and explain it to your family and phrase it's just a nightmare, for me, a nightmare. So back to my current predicament. Ice. I make a beeline for the private employee bathroom. Once I arrived there, I see that it's locked because it's already use oh no, no, this isn't good. So then I got to walk halfway right across my place of employment to reach the public restrooms. MMM, but but clenched the WHO oh dude, like anybody seeing me must have thought I was like the ever see the movie men in black? Yeah, when the bug guys, like we're in the human suit. He's like walking around his limbs can hold it in. Oh Man, oh my God, it was. It was something else, and you want to act normal. It's like you just like stole something. You don't want to get caught, like you know, want to be see, not that guy's got a shit. Look at that guy. Y'All beaten up on your forehead, Guy, oh my God. So there I am. I make it to the entrance and right then I got a decision to make, because keep your asshole shot is not even I can even think that anymore. Yeah, all right, get there. I just got to get there and do what I got to do. There's this, is it. This is my streak is over. is done with nothing I can do about it. I'm in I have no control. Take the L, take the Elf, the big fat L on that one. So my mental decision at that time was head straight to the handicapped toilet because more space in there for some rea and I thought I'd be cleaner. Maybe because now, look, I know that I've seen all types of characters and all walks of life go into the restroom and I know they're up to no good. Sure, I know there's people in there, you know, probably doing drugs and you know homeless people come in there and probably use the facilities. Because I get another place to go. So I already know it's going to be a situation. But I'm thinking, you know, trying to rationalize everything, handicapped stall is going to be the best stall out of the options that I have. That's a logical assumption, you would think. Right maybe, or or so I thought, because I slam the door shut. I'm yanking down my pants as fast as I can't. I look at the toilet seat, covered in Piss. Yeah, covered in it like some guys, and is like unidentifiable chunks and different things, and it's justus is dude. Put this anybody out there. PUT IT in your mind's eye, the most disgusting looking toilet you could ever see. But Luckily, sitting on a peatree dish it basically. Yes, luckily the water didn't have anything in it. So I'm like, all right, I don't even have time to yeah, prep the seat, clean the seat, nothing, but I'm not going to sit on it. No Way. I'm gonna do something I've never done in my entire existence. I'm just going to hover R I've heard of women doing this, like yes, and David Blaine or doctor strange there, yeah, exactly, there. I am so man, I just I've I got to do what I got to do. So I just drop Trou I let loose, hovering probably a good six to eight inches above the toilet, all right, and my eyes are just closed in frustration. I mean the crows feet of just imagine my face. You just like you know how to paint a picture today, man, well, it's going to get even better, because now that you've thought of my face in this disgruntled, horribly, you...

...know, horrified manner. Yeah, my eyes open wide when I hear the sound of there you go, because it wasn't what was dropping in, but what was coming back. And right then that little splash of water hit me dead center, SMACK DAB in the center of my buttole. Oh my good, right, and I'm like no, please, God, no, if it is, if I couldn't say no enough, that was like a hepatitis bulls eye. Oh it. That's exactly what was going through my mind. I'm like, I thought I just like totally escape the beast. I man, I had made it. Things were happening. Yeah, man, understandably not exactly the way I wanted them to, but still I was avoiding the pitfalls of having to use this public toilet. Yeah, no, splashback and it got me like it wasn't even like my cheeks, it was just boom, boom, right in the Achilles heel. Dude, that center, Dead Center shot. So, my God, there I am. I mean I'm literally that moment ready to like call a therapist or I don't even know, just set fire, to money, to my own wrectum, because end it all right now. Yeah, it's over, it's done. I mean, I can't. How can I even look my wife in the face after this? What is it? What has happened to me? I mean, I could even look in the mirror. Yeah, myself been violated by a public toilet. Yeah, basically, and it was one of the worst, if not the worst, experience of my entire life. I mean, wow, and when I got home, oh, they're cleaning. Wow, cleansing and BASSD post toilet stress to sort of did. That's what it was. I I mean, did you take a shower like like, I don't know, the sexual assault victim in an old movie, like, I know that sounds pretty awful now. It guys pretty severe. Yeah, but if there a test kit involved, no, but I mean I do. I was scrubbing, scrubbed, dub dubbing the old brown balloon. Not, I is no tomorrow, oh my God. And then, like, even when I was in there, I knew I couldn't like clean myself properly, but I still went to the sink and I grabbed some soap and water and then went back into the bathroom stall and kind of clean my backside a little bit, just like, I don't know, intimate dude. Dude, at this point, there's is no going back, right, there's nothing else you can do. It's happened, is there? It's like, you know, even even a little soap and water, it's not going to take away sure, the bloop. Sure. Oh No, man, that's you've been scarred for life at this point. You know, my streak is over. I got to start a new one now. I mean it's been this many days since used you have at work. Death con for there was like, yeah, people hitting buttons in my mind, like no, no, don't do this day, please, don't do this. What are you going to do, though, Dave? You know, listen, I will say this. I think everyone can relate to that story, at least the fear involved. But okay, but I'll say, like, with my checkered past, so, shall we say, of addiction and all these things, like I spend a lot of time like, I'll just say I can relate to that panic really, really easily. It's really easy for me to go back just because, like I said, I was a street junkie. I got homeless, I didn't have a home, toilet to go back to for a long time. So I definitely, especially as an addict, where when you're craving the drugger, you need the drug, your stomach is a mess and you got a shit every you know whatever, ten minutes, whatever it is, and then when you get the drugs in your hand, that often initially initiates a response of Yack, Oh my God, I gotta take a shit. You know, that's it's a thing. Yeah, right, right. So I know that panic...

...well, and I will say this. I remember that it would be like a sense of piece when you finally got to a toilet, and obviously, if you're an adict, especially with the drugs inhand. But but the feeling wasn't complete, of like relief, until I looked at the toilet roll despends, a toilet paper roll dispenser, because, yeah, there have been times where it's like, Oh, thank God, I'm in the toilet, sit down and then I look and there's no toilet paper and then you're just like this is not relief, like I still in fucked, you know. So Anyway, I've had that happened before. I don't I mean the the whole brown eye target, the shy. I I don't know if I've been there, but I mean maybe, I'm sure. I know I know people that have shot up a toilet while. I guess that's similar, but that's terrible. All the things of nightmares, all my listen, Hey met real quick though. Let me tell you, and I'm sure you've heard this story before, when I was a kid, I had a buddy of mine, you had to go so bad. He stopped at a gas station and he went intod his bit and there's no toilet paper. Yeah, and he ended up looking around and panically. What am I going to do? I got to clean myself here? And he just looks up randomly and the ceiling isn't done and he sees his some of that Pink Panther insulation. Know, yes, yeah, I never told you this before. If you did, it's you know, somehow my mind has forgot it. Yeah, probably because how terrible it is. And he reached up he grabbed, you know, a swatch of the insulation and use that. And then we're walking home and he was like I am so Itchy, I need I need to get home right now. He's like I need to do something right now, and I was like that's like the worst thing. I can't even imagine. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was just but it happened to someone I know well, man, and I was there, and I mean it's looks. As a kid, I was also diagnosed with something called Crone's disease, Uh Huh, which was weird because, Um, when that happened, my mom had to talk to the school and they basically said he can go to the bathroom whenever he was because like irritable bowel thing. Sure, so, back when, everyone later on, sure, but when you're younger it's embarrassing. Yeah, it's like you don't want to like be that kid who's yeah, he can't, you know, called control himself. He's gonna crab this B but I was very good at doing that. Even if I had the urge, I still was like, I'm gonna wait till I get home, yeah, where it's comfortable link clean, in my own environs. But I'll tell you all that training as a child of holding it. Yeah, seem to work at work the other days, may man, it is his work for me for a long time. That's why I said it's been at least twenty years. That I can recall having to, you know, utilize one of these public restrooms in such a way. MMM, so this was the most extreme of extremes. This was literally as bad as good possibly. I mean, I was going to exactly make a mess if I did not do what I did, in fact did so. Yeah, wow, there you have it. I'll tell you. I would not have told you when I got up this morning that I would have discussed a single fetal experience for almost twenty minutes. Yep, that's the way the world works, baby, it's one life is weird. Is Weird and just fucking great. So, Dave, I I know your somewhat of a fan of these, but I've been watching a lot of documentaries and documentary series lately. Love Them. Yeah, man, it's entertaining, but at the same time it's nice to just learn some things that are real and like Joey, my stepson, my my boy, has, you know, he's voiced several times like he's still at that age where it's boring to watch the news or he's when we're going to watch something, even if it's a cool documentary, that I'm like, you probably like this. He's like, I'm not watching a fucking documentary. You know, he's my story. Fuck he sory. Yeah, you may learn something, right. Yeah, no, I listen and I relate and that's the point of what...

I'm I kind of wanted to talk about is that, you know, I'm in my early s and recently I wrote the last so many years. I mean a lot of my adult years were kind of wasted just doing stupid things, as I mentioned in the last segment. But now I'm like, you know what, I like learning these things, like I'm interested in them, and I started thinking about how our education system and just the way we work as humans biologically is kind of messed up, because when you're a kid, they send you to school and you've got to learn all these things and you get tested and it's like this bombardment of information for the first, you know, eighteen or more years of go to college of Your Life. But the reason is because when you're that age, a you're getting ready for the world and be biologically you just work better that way, like your your mind is designed to absorb all this information when you're young. Like they say that the you know, human child learns more in their first, whatever it is three years than they do in any you know, the rest of their life, whatever it is. Sure, so I know you mean statistic. I wish I'd looked that up, but anyway, my point is at that age the problem is most of us aren't interested in any of the shit. So I you know, and this is the ironic part, is that when I was a kid I always was in our for a for a while I was in all the advanced classes when I was about nine years old. For the next few years I was in this thing called project expand in my school where they would take like there were like eight of us, I think that would all get taken out of our classes. We'd go to this room. We'd learned some other things, but most of we just kind of like discuss things and learn to use reasoning like differently. We were young. We're like nine years old at first, but we would all it was a different kind of learning and it was for kids that were testing higher than others. So I had this potential and even when I was taking my psats and I sat's, like my scores got me a national merit scholarship nominee, like out of people all over the country, you know, like my my scores got me to that. You know right? Yeah, we sure. Yeah, and I did. I tested really well on a lot of things. I retained a lot, but I never did homework. I couldn't have been bothered. Like I would take acid in school, walk around, you know what I mean, like I remember. Oh yeah, they like but my, my ponties, I had no interest in any of that shit. And if I did the work, it was because, you know, I remember it so I can answer the questions on the test and also I just I don't know, it was it was often just to get it done because I had to. But the homework, I mean, I the point is I had all those accolades, but I barely graduated high school because I was so behind with homework or projects or whatever it was that I was so irresponsible that I barely graduated, despite being a national merit scholarship nominee. And now, you know, twenty years later, twenty five years later, whatever it is, I'm so interested in all that shit and now it's if I want to take classes, it costs a ton of money. It's like going back to college or something and like, you know, I just I feel like the whole system's messed up and I don't know if you can relate it all. I know you said you're into the documentaries and stuff, but you know, do you know what I'm talking about? I do, I do. It's like it's just weird how your taste, in your interests and things like that mature and change, and so maybe now you might be interested in the topic that you would not even think about being bothered with at the age of sixteen through eighteen that you're like. Man, I would love to be able to sit in a class and totally get into the nitty gritty on this stuff now, but if to do so I'm have to pay a fucking bucket load of money. I'm being old motherfucker. Going back to school right, you know, it's like, if any rate, it's like, you know, the the public education systems fantastic for these kids. So why can't I just decide I want to go...

...back to ninth grade? Why not? I know I graduated it already, but I didn't really get the full experience. I didn't get all the information that was offered to me. So can I just go back to that grade, take the philosophy class and enjoy all that exactly? Man, I don't know, if this stuff interests me now, it's it's I guess if I really want it I'd be willing to pay for it, but it's just, you know how it is, life, life is, you know, it's hard to find the money to do all these things. Like how's that going to benefit me nowadays? It's one thing if I wanted to become some kind of I guess. You know, what do you want to use? Yeah, well, you can use a philosophy degree for you know, unless you're going to be a teacher. But it's interesting stuff and to me it's things that I ponder anyway, like the way people think and the way people respond to life. We've mentioned before that show the leftovers and how I found it was so fascinating because it's about how people grapple with, you know, unknown things that happen, and that stuff fascinates me. And as a kid I couldn't have given a shit or I didn't know that that's what I was learning. You know, I didn't realize it at the time. I was just like, Oh, it's boring shit and I don't I might have been interested in if I gave it a shot, but I don't know. I guess my point is like, if any people are young, it's like, I don't even know because, like I said, maybe you're obviously probably not even interested at the time. But I was going to say, take advantage while it's there. Yeah, you know, try to learn some things while you can. And I don't know, but it's I was just didn't getting fucked up. You know I'm saying. No, I me too. Absolutely. I was more interested in getting the Babes in the brewers and, you know, learning my Abes and C's. But that's the thing I was going to say. It's like a womb, either the public schools or school when you're young, because you know you're in this bubble or you protected. You you're in these classrooms, you get these lessons taught to you by, hopefully someone whose semi professional. But then when you don't you spit out in the world. You want any more that Info, you got to figure out how to get it on your own. Right you know, you can go watch those documentaries, you can reach God damn books, but we're not paying for it, you know, taxpaired dollars and not handling any of that. You hear you had. I guess it's what you do now, right, and I mean that's the same thing with a hobby or something that you might be interested in. You just you go online, you go on ready, you go wherever, and you start just kind of like inundating yourself with as much of that information is humanly possible. But yes, how nice would it be if you could just stroll up to a brick and mortar building and say, look, I don't want to pay Shit, but I want to learn something. Can you let me in and let me do that? And they say yes, of course, because knowledge is power, my young friend, or old friend, is the case. Maybe now you know on end and that'd be wonderful. It's like the didn't, like Azzy Osborne famously say, like we're born in the wrong order, like we should be born old, Benjamin button style, basically exactly because you're so young and dumb when you're a kid, like you know, and all these opportunities come your way and you don't really take full advantage of them or appreciate them when they happen. But when you're old, you like fuck crap, why did I why did I do this or whatever? But then you're all on your feeble and you're you're crapping yourself at work. You know here. You know it. Yeah, but it was shot in the asshole with toilet water, exactly. That's what's hat. That's your life now. That's it. Yeah, so, you know, youth is wasted on the young. Basically this, and that's exactly what was just going to say. It's so true. It's like you don't realize what you have when an opportunity comes by. You don't realize that there aren't going to be a lot of those. So you just, you know, take it for granted a lot of the times and it's it's so weird because here we are reciting the same things we probably heard from older people and we were young, and it's so true. Man, I don't know, it's just the whole face palm thing where it's just like, damn, well, here's...

...the kicker, Nat, here is the big kick. I like, I would like to think or believe that there are many people out there who decided, you know what, I amn't learn this stuff. I am taking this class because it's an opportunity, while I am young, to learn and and, you know, do something. It's broaden my horizons, if you will. Sure but then I look at society at large, of our country, of the US of a, and I realize there are so many dumb, clothes minded, ruthlessly idiotic motherfuckers out there. I mean, and I'm again, I'm just talking about our country, not even the rest of the world, right, who had different setups and different ways that there you know, education systems are organized in everything else that you know, it's not out of the norm that people just get this opportunity and just don't give a fucking shit. They don't care. Like you know, and it may be binge drugs and partying or whatever. You went and want to do like a different career when you were young. So why learned that? If I I want to be a carpenter, why do I give a fuck about we keep using philosophy, and is an example here, but makes sense. Why do I care about that? Why do I need that? I don't need that. I need to learn Spanish. I'm going to be a plumber in Oshkosh, Wisconsin or whatever. So you know, it's the way the world, sure, but the thing is, yeah, now some of us at least can appreciate the just knowing that stuff, knowing about the world in general is a positive thing and like eventually you might deal with other cultures that you can learn about and languages are important to learn. But there's so many of us that aren't educated or to you know, had a shitty education system where they are and now that they're older, they just think, well, that's you know, that other still visn't for me. Like that attitude of why am I going to need to learn that? It's like they don't realize the value of it because they live in this insular world. And then you get the whole fear of the outside, fear of the other, the things that you don't know, because when things are unknown, there's fear. Right then fear turns into bigotry and, you know, discrimination and all these things and hating immigrants and hating gay people. Fantastic point, that's that's the willingness to be force fed a narrative. Sure Right, it is. The reason why I say this is such a fantastic point you just made is because there is a time and everybody's life, whether they realize it or not, where they have the ability to understand that. Okay, I fuck this up, let me change it. Hmm, you know what I mean. Let me, let me pivot. I can do something differ, I can believe something differ, I can be someone different across roads. Yes, yes, thank you exactly. And I guess it's another big challenge of being a human being, of being a person, to soul anybody wherein you can go, okay, this was wrong, I've been doing something wrong. Let me fucking like do something about it. Yeah, or yet again, sit behind a computer screen, click any crack, any click, and I just like being a more on and a Dingus, and that's the way I can only agree with other dinguses, because my world view and everything else, I get the fucking blinders on and I'm happy as a big and shit not in the Algorithm is sending me the same yes, it over and no, yes, and how the fuck could you name the Indians, the Guardians? Come on now exactly? You know, that's the lay with motherfuckers. All right, so I know we tend to get political all the time, and the funny thing is I owe it. I always put the this little caveat where I'm like, Oh, I don't look to get political, but yet I always find myself talking about this shit. So so whatever, let's give into it. So it's do it's education, baby. So did you notice, if you are the type that just...

...watches like like the Fox News and all that, it seems like it's always something they're fighting, some battle, though. The only way they're able to keep their support is we need to fight against this. There and it's always some bullshit. It's always they're coming to take your guns or your bibles. I've heard that one. Now there can come door to door to take your Bible's. That was the argument with, you know, them coming door to door to ask if you want a vaccine. That's all they were talking about recently. They were saying maybe we should start offering door to door so people don't have to go these unvaccinated people that are in danger. And Fox News of the right wing media start saying they're what, they're gonna start a government project that goes door to door. You know, they don't mention like the mail that you know they already come doortodoor. Basically, yeah, for things, but they're acting like it's some sinister thing where they're going to come doortodoor and force you to take of ext it's like, no, that's not the point, but it gets them angry and it gets them worried. And they actually said, what's next? Coming to take your guns door to door, coming to take your bibles door to door? Like, who's talking about that Shit, which, again is like the war on Christmas a few years ago, which was some bullshit because people want to say happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas and that you know, but it got people angry like my culture is under attack and the only way that's all they have at this point. It seems like the right wing, all they have is tax breaks for people, you know, the wealthy specifically, and you know, we got to stop all these things the liberals are doing and you need to be afraid of what they're doing, and that seems to be all they really have. They don't have much for Oh, and voter suppression. So we can because the less people vote, the better chance the Republicans have, because obviously, you know, it's like more people if the more people vote, the more likely it is that a liberal is going to be elected or a Democrat. What does that mean? It means your ideas are less popular. You can never win the popular vote and rather than try to win the war of ideas, which you know, it should be what it's about. They just try to make it harder to vote, and you know what I mean, and and keep and keep their own base angry enough to make sure that all of them go vote. You know, like that's the point, like be scared. You got to go vote because the gays are trying to like teach your kids to be gay, or they're teaching critical race theory, they're taking doctor sus books out of the whatever the fuck they're were. Yeah, I know it's always going to be some crisis, some some terrible thing that's going to happen. You is funny when you say like doortodoor, like they're going to storm the citadel, and be like yeah, I know you can understand fucking this and that, because we're going to make you, going to force you. And I remember I brought this up in the show before, because I live in Texas and one of my least favorite human beings of all time is Senator Ted Cruise. Well, I think is a gutless, spineless, useless, worthless love fish. Thank you anything you want, but if you remember when he was we're going to boycott Nike. Yeah, that's we're going to do, because Colin Kaepernick neils during the national anthem. So join me, my followers, and boycotting Nike. And then it's a couple days ago, he shows up late for a vote. He's coming from his pickup game and what is he gonna on? fucking Nike socks. Yeah, and I'm like Hey, hey, there guy, what happened in that fucking boy and I I brought that up so many times because I'm always like, I think even last episode, for Christ's Sakes, because I'm like, what happened to the news? What happened to this? What happened to, you know, all the all this stuff that cause outrage and just people going fucking bonkers on social media. You know, it's over now. The news cycle just washed it away. Yeah, but at real things you're talking about. But we're not educating. Yes, exactly. We are not smart enough as a whole, as a unit, to to understand it. We're just being completely fucking good. Is I'm gonna throw up. How about the problem? Vomit all over my freaking computer screen because we are just herded together like a gaggle of morons. Sure,...

...dude, I think to the must swallow all this fucking false crap. The way propaganda works is you convince the public that yours is the only voice to be trusted, and all the rest needs to be you know, you need to be skeptical of and that's what they've done. They are like only watch Fox News, like, you know, even my father, he'll be like Fox News is the only one that tells the truth, tells it like it is. But you watch it and they're telling people that that they're trying to cancel Dr seuss or Mr Potato Head and all this, when that's not even the case. Like Dr Seuss wasn't pulled because they got told by the Liberals to take these two books, or whatever it was, off the shells. It was the doctor seus estate saying these old books have some like racist looking pictures and shit, maybe we shouldn't sell them anymore, and we can just you know, they made the decision themselves. Nobody force them. It's not a war, it's not cancel culture, it's getting its learning. You know that maybe this shit's not cool, and hence you have the Cleveland Indians changing to the Guardians, as you mentioned, like yeah, whatever, that was a big thing and now that'll be over in a week. He's just like Capain America. Marvel comics is woke. Oh my God, is Captain Miraca Gay? Is He gay? Oh the children, kids aren't even fucking reading comics. Now, come on, you find one, but that's that's you know, this is all back to your original point, even though I've completely the thing is, I guess so angry about it I stutter and I make noises and everything else, because it's just utter disbelief that this is what happens. And you know, you bring up Fox News and just news in general. I don't watch news really because I like to formulate my own fucking opinion, because I'm not even saying MSNBC is telling you the truth. Half the time. I don't fucking know that. Everybody's trying to sell you something. Of course you know what I mean. You have to know what's going on. At the same point, you have to know, like you, but the key is don't just believe one like watching them all exactly like. You don't have to watch none like, but don't just watch one, and especially one that tells you not to watch any of the others. Like you guys. You got to make up your own mind. You can't just take one source as being the Gospel. Right, going, guy, got over it like nobody's business. It's just ridiculous. So let's send all of our asses back to school. We need it. Paddle US head distress. Do it. We deserve to be punished. Thank you for man, I have another exactly. This is the point of the program where I like to thank our partners. Yes, indeed, lemon squeezy. These are great products and companies and you should be checking them out now. We make it even easier because we get some cup on codes. That's right, Hashtag deals, deals. It's like stealing nate, it really is. It's like running out of the store with Free Shit. Well, called the COPS, call the PO PO. First up we have Alpine hempcom. The sea bed revolution has arrived. Now you could be suffering from a wide range of elements, or maybe need some better sleep. Well, just some better techniques to relax. We'll guess what. Sea Bed is there to help, and Alpine hemp has great prices on these products. So don't wait. Visit Alpine hempcom. We also have northland vaporcom, vape juice. Baby. I love to vape. I am a former smoker and I say former because vaping change my life. It made me feel better, healthier, and Northern Vapor helped me get there. All of their eloquids are dike tone and artificial sweetener free. You may be asking yourself, Dave, why the Hell is that important? Because, guess what, Big Tobacco Wain't telling you what's in their products, but northland they care. Now both these sites, you can visit them and use cupon code selling out nineteen, to save nineteen percent off your entire order. Hence what I was saying earlier about running out of the store with that big old discount.

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MTV, or that band is a bunch of posers. They write industrial music but they shot at the gap or whatever. That stuff seemed really important to those of us had found a subculture and wanted it to remain as pure as possible, whatever that means. I didn't want to see a jock at a goth show. When nine inch nails got huge and played woodstock ninety four, I was almost bummed out, never mind that that concert is legendary and still one of the best performances they've probably ever done. All I could see where the hundreds of backwards baseball caps in the crowd. Of course, most of us grow up and see things differently nowadays. I just like to listen to the music. I'm old. I'm not moshing at a show. I want to actually watch the band members perform. I could care less where the band or the crowd shop for clothes are, what other bands they're into. It's all about the music. The whole concept of authenticity, or being true, as the black metallers call it, is bizarre. Think about it. I understand the insular nature of music scenes, not wanting your special thing to lose its luster, but I mentioned black metal just now for a reason. Along with Punk, black metal is probably the genre with the most caddy fans ready to call anyone opposer who doesn't meet these sort of gatekeepers standards. It sounds weird to it outsider, but many black metal fans denounce bands just for producing clear, professional sounding records. The original black metal bands like mayhem, bur zoom and darkthrone recorded on the shittiest equipment possible and the low fly sound became more of a feature than a bug. But bands like dimmu Bor gear in cradle of filth, for example, took that style and ramped it up adding symphonic elements and much crisper sounding production, which really opened the genre up to lots of experimentation, which is a good thing. But if you ask a Mahem Fan, cradle of filth and dom boor gear are huge posers. They not only messed with the unique sound and visuals, but they never lived the lifestyle. They're not true black metal. The thing is that lifestyle is not something really healthy to aspire to. Members of mayhem and emperor burn down a lot of historic churches in Norway. Varg from bursom killed a guy, so did some members of other bands, and I don't mean they shot somebody. These dudes carried knives and axes and shit. So yeah, what's wrong with not being a true black metaller? If you go backwards and basically anyone's life, they were just normal people. There was always a point where a person found their chosen style. It's not like we come out of the womb wearing spiked bracelets or a joy division shirt. To some extent we all present an image of the person we want others to see in us. There's often some inauthenticity in all of us, especially when we're young and unsure of ourselves. Finding a click is often really important, but that gatekeeper mentality can be really toxic. Ideally, it may be there to hold on to some specialness, to preserve a scene that longtime fans hold so dear, but it usually just ends up being really fucking Douchey. Inclusivity is not a bad thing and yeah,...

...there are definitely bands that just try to cash in on a certain style that they may not really understand. Tramp stamps are unquestionably cringe inducing. It's okay to call out in authenticity when it's manufactured by a board room to sell products and nothing more. But sometimes a poser is just a newcomer or someone who's open minded enough to listen to steely Dan as well as black flag. Fuck all the haters. Listen to what you want. Just don't get sucked in and start chopping people up for Satan or something. That kind of authenticity is okay to avoid. Yeah, I mean I remember being called a pose or age fifteen, and I thought was the worst thing anybody could ever say to me. Yeah, I'm not kidding. Like the dude who yelled at me was like the Dorkiest fucking nerdy anthrax fan. Yeah, and when I say that's imagine, imagine the gene jacket and, yeah, scrawny frame and the hair and the coke bottle glasses, pointing his bony ass finger at me. Seeing you were a poser and now, in retrospect, is funny because people who call you posers were probably only the band for like a year themselves, but you just totally immersed yourself in it. So anybody on the outside who may have a casual liking of something is a fraud. I agree, man. I mean I just think at this point it's not even I don't know, it's, as I said, some of these subcultures being true, it isn't a good thing. Like there are people that criticized this rapper to Kashi six nine, who he was all in the news, you know, a year or two ago, because the point is he started out he wasn't in a gang. He like hung out with gang members but wanted to present this gang image. People I'll called imposer, because he would hang out with all these gang members and he started wearing a lot of red and hang with the bloods and doing all this shit and rapping about all this gang activity. He was doing and a lot of people started calling him out, like, Dude, you're not even part of this lifestyle, like, don't fuck around, and he just took it as a challenge, got more loud, started getting involved in some crazy shit and next thing you know, the FBI and like law enforcement came and got him because he was doing all this shady shit. And you know, he did. He became this famous snitch and now his name is laughed at because he's this informant and like, I mean I'm sure he's glad he, you know, lived the lifestyle. Laugh to that. It's just weird, though, when you say something like that, like how old is this guy? Late teens, early twenties. All right, well, that makes sense then, because you know, back then you don't know what you are. Identity is so important, right, trying to establish that when you're young. Yeah, you just don't know what you really want to be. Your influenced by so many outside sources. That okay, you know, it'd be different. Use Forty five years old, right, you know, and one day he's like, well, I just want to become a fucking blood. You know, when you're when you're twelve, you might be into Britney Spears, and I'm dating myself here, and then next thank you. Thing, you know, you wearing all black. Yeah, and you're into death metal or whatever, and okay, I get it. That makes sense. So you know. Yeah, I mean he allowed your boisterous to when you're that age. So he's just a Moren with do to Youth Yank exactly. But that's the thing. I you know, our show in large part is about getting older and realizing the how life is and like, as opposed to when you're young, and how your perspectives change. And, and this is a big part of it, it's finding identity. You don't know who you are at that age. You don't. There's a lot of insecurity and uncertainty, and that shit is why we make so many bad choices...

...when we're young. Yeah, and you know, it's it's really interesting, you know, and these again, these are things that I would be interested in taking a class on. Really think. Oh yes, it's actually kind of fun me because when we talk about music and you had brought up steely Dan, like yeah, sure, Welcome, welcome to the bandwagon. Yeah, it's like I love David Bowie. When I find out someone likes David Bowie. I don't care if they liked him for a week or fifteen years or whatever. You know, it's no big deal. But then when it comes to my my fandom of comic books, I'm not like angry at people, but I always find it weird when someone's like I don't know where. They will claim that they are an expert or they know a lot about a character or their the history the run of particular, let's say book, and you go do you've only been into it for like two weeks, like, what the fuck you talking about? So I think it's one of those things with the bravado involved as well, if you pretend like your know it all or something, or you're like, all of a sudden you're the biggest fan of something right. I've seen people in comics twitter where they kind of change identities in change. For one week they are really into this one character and then two weeks later they change the name of their account and all of a sudden they're posting nothing but this one character for until they decide again on their whimsy to changing it, and that irritates me. Sure you know I find out whether fans. Yes, thank you, fair weather. Fans. That's irritating. So I don't know, it's weird, but yeah, definitely, when you're still trying to get the feelers out on who you are, I mean as a tough one, I can't, I couldn't call someone a poser anymore, right and it's not important anymore. Like you said, I just mentioned that kid doing that to me when I was like fifteen. was like, wow, take the dagger out, man, like I am bleeding all over the fourth yeah, I'm a stuck pig. And now if someone the other you pose there, I be like yeah, whatever I do, you fucking pay my bills exact. I got things to do in my real life, you know. I mean, who is not a poser? WHO GEG fucking Allen? Oh, Gross, Oh, you want to disgusted to that? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's another one. I know it's like for the uninitiated, if you don't know who gig Allen is, HMM, don't look it up at work. Do not look up that man in any place where your Internet history is something that you could be possibly ashamed of. And SFW exactly, but definitely if you're interested in some really fucked up human beings, who walk this earth. He's one of them that you can look into and be completely repulsed and disgusted by, and you know it. Interestingly enough, you bringing him up. I knew a guy in high school who's a big fan of his. Because of that, this guy was like one of the scummiest fucking human beings. But it's so anti establishment, right, it's so anti everything that it's just fuck the system, so bad dick nihilistic that you can understand why someone who is sixteen years old and could say, Hey, this is something I'm going to look up to, this something I aspire to. That's Punk Rock and that's scary fucking rock. Yeah, that's dangerous. Yep, it really is. You know, of course it's not Charles Barkley saying he's no idol some sports stars something. This is sure if you want to emulate these death metal guys or a GG Allen or something in it, or even to for example, I was a big Bookowsky Fan Right, Oh man, and this is when I was like completely sunk in my alcoholic nature, where I was romanticizing the idea that this is the way to live, this is the way to do it. Now, years separated from that I can look back with clear eyes and go no, I mean you can still appreciate the man's work, but the lifestyle was not something to...

...emulate or aspire to at all. No, no, no, but yet again, being at such a young age and easily absorbing those outside influences in aspiring to these kind of things, is can't it is dangerous, it's risky, miskey business, my friend, for sure. Man, not healthy. Yeah, man, I mean, hopefully a lot of us get get these concepts as we get older. But you know, role models are important. It's really easy to get sucked into the wrong ones, and it's also really easy to get angry at things enough where you do look up to someone who wants to mash the system or just bucks every system, you know. And Yeah, and then he get people like, not to bring it politics again, but like Donald Trump, who that was why everyone wanted to vote for him, was because he's somebody that wants to destroy the system, he wants to take it apart, and they sent him in like a grenade. And then, but they didn't think what was going to happen, you know. And Anyway, again, here are you, there you go, look at you, and this is something we could rant and rave about incessantly. I'm pretty sure I because I mentioned before, I get so angry about it. HMM. But I mean, yeah, role models in general. Yeah, it's one of those things where, when you are our age, when you're in your S, does anybody ever ask, like who your role models are? Like, you know, supposed to have it anymore? You were supposed to be one, I suppose. Yeah, but you could, couldn't you technically still have I mean, like sure, Gandhi. Yeah, I think by now our role models are and, to use a word that you mentioned last time, in Amalgam of Malorgum my, yes, of role models, you know, like they like by now you should have a bunch of them and and take bits of each, hopefully, and you know and maybe have some wisdom to figure out which are the parts that are that are best to be left alone, and which one's our best to be emulated. You know, maybe you are a role model to your young stepson, maybe our show, to anybody out there listening, we might be role models to them. Maybe, God help them. Got Yeah, I was going to say too, in which case be careful, good luck, God speed. But no, I mean, I don't know, I have a son. I hopefully he looks up to me and, yeah, and I'm teaching him the right stuff and put him on the right path. And I know because he's so he's eight. So when he's a teenager, Oh boy, here we go, and I know he's going to be like, Fuck You, Dad, your information is futile, it's useless, man. You know. Yeah, some of US have to learn the hard way, and that's the thing we also have to learn to sometimes people have learned the hard lessons for us, but sometimes, and we should just listen, but sometimes we have to learn those lessons ourselves. And you know, maybe the reason we went through such garbage and hard times is because then we can come out the other end able to help somebody else through something like that's the only thing that gets me through sometimes, Dave, is hoping things like that. Yep, I agree. We are posers, we are sellouts, hence the name of our show, and it's good. It's a good thing. It's fine. Join us. The waters warm. Well, What Huh? We won't tell you why it's warm, but it is in fact warm. I mean to make it this far for somebody out there who be like dude, you're all in your forties, like, what's the big deal? You're not old? No, we're not old, but you know the lifes that we've lived. It's an accomplishment, man, you know, it's a big fucking deal for sure. So to enjoy the finer things in life is definitely the payoff, the pinnacle. Yeah, all that good fucking Shit. Well, nate, as always, interesting piece, and you interjecting some death metal into it because you are a...

...death metal fanatic. Technically black metal, but yeah, I know what you're saying. Black you see, I'm opposer, I'm a frauds if you don't know the different. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know fuck's going on, this bunch of dudes playing guitars drinking beers. Just just a little aside there. I did post something on our facebook page, the selling out facebook page, which is selling out. Show one on facebook where there's a comparison between what I'm talking about when I say technical death metal, because I talked about subgenres last episode, and I for contrast. I put what a black metal band, a typical black metal band, sounds like and looks like. There's a video, versus a technical death metal band so if you're interested, it is kind of neat to see the differences and you learn there's a reason for these subgenres and you could be a poser and check out a band that you're not part of the scene. Yeah, so you mentioned that to me. I've yet to check it out because going on facebook for me is like pulling teeth. I'm kicking and screaming and my yeah, you can see the fingernail claw marks in the floor. I'm like a facebook. Oh No, if I can eat has as ed by yourself. Yeah, educate yourself. Keep your asshole shut. What have we learned this episode? Right, beware the palpitating anus. Absolutely, nate. You have anything else you would like to add before we let these fine furry folks go on? There, Mary Way, you know, I could talk for hours, but no, I'll I'll let you guys go. Yeah, we have a show. We will be back, so you sure bring up whatever you want to say this time next time. There you go. That's how it works, this wonderful thing. So I do want to thank each and every one of you for taking the time to listen to our humble little program virtual hugs for all of you. Hopefully you got something good out of it and enjoyed yourselves. So, that being said, I am Dave. That is nate, and this has been the selling out show piece wh.

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