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Episode 9 · 4 years ago

Ep.#9 Time Travel

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

If you could go back in time to any year in history, where would you go? What would you do? Would it be a mission to alter history, to prevent some international conflict? Maybe you’d just relive some festive times from your own past and indulge in the recklessness of youth all over again. Our hosts give their own answers and then read some listeners’ thoughts on the subject in the Selling Out Sound Off. Plus, Nate invokes the spirit of Kurt Cobain during Nate’s Notes.

3:00- Nate’s bumpy road back in time
14:05- Dave decides to relive some hazy days
16:00- Some Stats (Dave did homework)
21:11- Obligatory David Bowie reference
25:15- Dave's motives
28:00- If I knew then…
40:30- Selling Out Sound Off
51:20- Nate’s Notes
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...decided to go with a year after the problems had started, but when I had a break in them. And okay, the year I chose was the year two thousand, the first year of this millennium, and basically I chose it because that year, man, I had just come out of some really dark points in my life. My Band that I spoke about last week, or we've spoken about a bit, had fallen apart, had broken up. A lot of my friends had either moved away people had gone off to school. I graduated High School in one thousand nine hundred and ninety seven, and by two thousand things had gotten so out of control. Like I had some great times and some dark times. I was living in this really rough spot in in ninety nine, where I want to do a little bit of backstory here just quickly to explain that the apartment I had just come from, I had found my roommate hanging like he had, he had killed himself. We had mentioned this apartment before and another episode because we had talked about how I had we had pit bulls at this apartment and one of them had almost mauld you, nearly killed me, yes, and it was just a rough spot. I basically was living with some dealers of my some heroin dealers that I had gotten close with and and had lived with. One of them ended up dying. The other one, his wife, my other roommate. In his absence, since he died, she had gone completely crazy. was doing cocaine a lot, doing all this stuff and basically had gone nuts and I needed to get out of that situation. And basically my great year of two thousand started with me knocking on your door, Dave, and asking for help because I needed I needed to get out of where I was. You opened your doors to me and I basically kicked my habit at your place. I was you know, you, you, like I said, you opened your doors to me. You were very good to me. You said, you know, do what you need to do. And then in that year, man, I turned twenty one on the year two thousand. By that point, may first was my birthday. I turned twenty one. At that point I moved into an apartment, I started a job and things got really good from that point, man, I reconnected with a lot of friends who I thought had been lost, that I had separated myself from over the last the previous few years. A lot of them were willing to let you, were willing to open your doors and your hearts to me, and I was doing great. I this job. I did really well at it. I moved up and got a supervisory position there. Things were great. In the long run, of course, I fucked everything up again, but that during the year two thousand, man, when everything was being put back together and I was having some of the best times of my life. I will say, man, that that year I still look back in and with at that year with with fondness and a lot of a lot of smiles, you know. Yeah, I just want to ask you something here, because you bring it up. You want to go back to the year two thousand because you know your life took a turn at that point in time. Now we just kind of like, you know, riffin here hypotheticals, because time travel doesn't really exist, of course, but the way that you're stating it almost makes me think that you want to pull like a doctor Sam Beckett in quantum leap it back into your own body, maybe to pair some of the the wrongs that happened in your life at that time. You know, it's not like you just want to go back and observe yourself, you want to go back and Change Shit. Well, there's an element of that. Yes, there's an element of if I could go back, I would hold on to that, you know, control that I had regained at that point. There is that element. But, to be honest, even just as an observer, even just going back and reliving, if I had to relive it all. It's funny. There's a book by Kurt Vonneguet called time quake where humanity, they are forced to relive the last however many years, like decade, and there they're aware that they're going through it, they're aware that they've already done it, but they are powerless while they watch themselves reliving every moment. So it's this weird idea. And to be honest, man, if I went back to two thousand and relived that, granted things got out of control by two thousand and one, like later in two thousand and one, I think that in two thousand things were good enough that I would be okay with just reliving it...

...and even if I didn't change it, like it was just a great time and the people that I surrounded myself with, the the living situation when I moved, I mentioned, I moved into an apartment on my twenty one birthday and started that job. That apartment was great, man. It was this duplex apartment with. My side of the place was myself in a couple friends. The other side of the house was another couple of my friends and are. We were all in our early S, so we were loud partiers, but we didn't have to worry about neighbors because on one side we had the post office, where you you know, people weren't there at night, and on the other side there was a damned church, so nobody was really there at night either. What about the railroad tracks? I think abroad on those railroad track. Yeah, I'm bringing this up because that sticks with me out of all the Times I've hooked up with women in random places, because I was painful. Yes, well, let's just clear that up for the listeners. Yes, so on the third side of the there's the post office, the church, and on the third side there was train tracks, a set of train tracks that were so close to the apartment that you could throw a rock from the porch and hit the train no problem as it went by. And when you move it. It kind of reminded me of the movie seven where they mentioned how they got suckered into buying this are renting this apartment. Yeah, right, but the l train and the place shook. The place shook. Now, when I first moved in this place it was like that. I was like, Jesus, man, how am I going to because the train would come through at like like eleven o'clock at night every night, or whatever it was. Dude, by the end of it, I it helped me sleep, man, it really cared. Yeah, it would lull me to sleep. I enjoyed it. But yes, so you hooked up with somebody on that on those train tracks, like yeah, is that? That's where you're getting at? Well, though, the whole apartment, like you mentioned, was kind of rowdy. Yes, and you know, we needed a spot to kind of sneak away and do our business. And you know, if you if you went in the bathroom or something, somebody you bang it on the door. If you try to go somewhere else, who knows, someone be bothering you. So we're just like yeah, let's go outside. Oh look, railroad tracks. Big Mistake, terrible mistake. And speaking of throwing rocks at the train, you know, rock stuck in your knees and I don't even know why this girl even bothered with me and I don't even know why I did. You drunk, you just want to get laid and the rest, as they say, is history. Yeah, man, yeah, you know, as as kids, I feel like, did a lot of banging people in weird, uncomfortable spots just to say you did it, or just because the hormones were, you know, overwhelming and so but yeah, I'm gonna say I'll save it for another episode, but I once had sex in a cemetery. Oh yeah, on a friend's grave. Hey, I'm sure he would have appreciated them. And Yeah, I'm sure. But Anyway, back to you in the year two thousand. Hey, you know what, if I was you and I went back then, I put a wager on the fact that electricity wouldn't go out, elevators wouldn't fall and everything else, because you remember that glitch, the whites. Okay, yeah, the thank you. The YT cavers are go fuck. You know, the world's going to be thrust into darkness. Yes, I'll put some money on that not happening. Sure, man, you know it's it's funny. Just just quickly to go back to what you said about banging in a friends, a friend over a friend's grave. We had another episode. It's funny. We have enough episodes now where you can be like referencing episodes here. Are A lot, but but her. Check out our back catalog. We're chalk fall of weird shit. Please do, because a little teaser. We also mentioned how to become a Werewolf, according to Anton's and or Lavay, the founder of the Church of Satan, and he taught to that you could become a werewolf by achieving orgasm in a scary place like a cemetery or whatnot. And I remember you saying you know, not going to be jerking off in cemeteries and whatnot. But but as it turns out, you weren't afraid to bang someone else in the cemetery. So that's that's a little interesting addendum. Nothing wrong with it, I'm not accusatory. It's great. But and the other thing is, you know a cemetery is not very scary, right, getting down and dirty in it. Sure, sure, your mind he's on something else. You're not thinking like fucking Michael Jackson's going to pop out and do thriller any yeah, now you your mind on something else, right, and it's your friend's grave. So there's a friendly aspect to that. And it was omage. She was nomage Bang. Sure, you're doing a threesome with your dead friend. Kind of creepy, creepy, yeah, weird, but anyway, yeah, so, I mean, yeah, I could go on about mine, but I kind of I want to hear what you've been thinking about as far as this topic. Like, well, well, Nady, naty boy, my dear friend. You know, I was trying to rack my brain to I'm like, when do I want to go back? And I kind of kept it in my lifetime as well, and and just like you, Ike too, tottered between a couple of years. I'm like, I want to go back to the year I was born, because the S I was born seventy. You know, it's kind of a rock in time. There's a lot of shit going on and and to be...

...honest with you, this is going to sound terrible. It's going to sound horrible because we were just discussing, you know, your struggle with addiction at that time. I actually kind of based when I want to go back on the quality of drugs. Yes, right, Huh, because I I don't necessarily want to leap into myself. I just want to go back and have a really fucking good time. HMM. And I didn't pick nineteen seventy eight. No, I did not at all, because, much like you had stated about, you know, your own survival and when you could actually maybe manage being in that time. Because what if I said, Oh, I want to go back to like eighteen fucking ninety eight? Yeah, I don't know how to fucking live back then. I know what the fuck is going on like. So what? Maybe Tesla invented something in some year. I don't give a fuck, I know. I mean I want to be around now when the lights are going on, not when the lights were being invented. And to be completely unimaginative and unoriginal, I chose the year of nineteen ninety six. You mentioned that you graduated nineteen ninety seven. My graduating year was nineteen ninety six and I was eighteen years old. And who Doggie was that a motherfucking year? Can you remember anything about Nineteen Ninety six personally? Oh my goodness, man, yeah, I love Nineteen Ninety six. It was. It was at a point where things hadn't quite spun out of Control. I was basking in the glory of drugs, narcotics, Hallucina, gins and whatnot, but hadn't right, hadn't seen any here negatives, but yeah, you know, well, I'm a I'm coming correct this episode. I have a few fact tooid's great some Info about nineteen ninety six scribbled down here in my noted book. Did some film work? All right, yeah, I guess. Well, thanks to Google. Yeah, it's all all thanks to Google. But nineteen ninety six, okay, HMM, the average income was thirty six thousand three hundred dollars. Rent was five hundred and fifty four dollars. Wow, yeah, gas was a buck twenty six. But the next one, okay, the next one is kind of alarming to me because of court. No, no, no, not smokes milk, because it says a gallon of milk was two dollars and seventy three cents, which I kind of have a hard time believing because milk is cheap, and now I know that is weird. So I don't know if that was like the high end beverly hills milk or something. Yeah, compared to the Walnut milk I'm drinking now. MMM. As far as other prices, something of note for people that, like me, who are comic book fans. The average price of a comic was a buck ninety five and now they're super fucking expense. You're basically paying five bucks at books. So take me back to nineteen ninety six. Bill Clinton was president. As we all remember, the top grossing films where Independence Day, twister, mission impossible and Jerry McGuire. No, cannon. Were you a fan of any of these films? Um, I mean, I saw Independence Day in the theater. No, you did. Yeah, man, I remember that. It was, you know, a big lousy spectacle. You know, it was okay, yeah, but anyway, all right, popular music. When I think back on the popular music in one thousand nine hundred and ninety six, I don't really know much of it. Sure because, like you just mentioned, with Hallucina gens and weed and every other yeah, I kind of spent the most of my time in the S in a haze. Yeah, which is kind of weird. Like, if if I go to my nostalgia meter, it really only starts clicking in the S, because that was when I was truly sober as a kid. Right, so I was of disorbing everything. I can remember all that stuff in the S. man fucking Blur. Yes, it's also a band. But yeah, I like my mindset it was my mindset at the time. Yeah, but don't speak from no doubt was the biggest hit, and just to prove that music is, or was, just as Shitty then as it is now. Yeah, some of the other big chart toppers were macarena from lost del Rio, Mariah Carey, boys, two men, one sweet day, and Seline Dion, because you love me. Oh my goodness, man, what the fuck? Yeah, so well, I about popular music, man. The thing is, you can say music was crappy, look at what was popular, but, dude, popular music is never something to go by. I wasn't listening to that Shit. No, I I think there were a lot of good albums that came out at that time, but they just were, I don't know, they they weren't the ones that are going to be on the list of what, you know, what were the songs in ninety six? It's not going to be that. It's going to be you know. I mean I've mentioned kind of about like in the s there were some periods where the popular music, I'll kind of get into it in on the nate's note segment, where there was a crossover of like the underground into the mainstream for a moment but but anyway, that's that's subject for later. But yeah, well's discussed music, because it for me. It's like if you say to me, Hey, Devi, one thousand nine hundred and ninety six, I'd be like electric Larry Land from the Bohol servers will be the first album to pop to my brain, which wouldn't happen for anybody else. And then I think like flaming lips, IUREKA, but I'm not sure if that was ninety six or ninety seven. It could be around there.

So someone feel free to write in and correct me, because you know I kind of suck with all that Shit. Again, I have my built an excuse of I was at I was fucked up, I was so drunk and wasted. I'm solved. You know, just alve mixed in together TV, popular TV was Er Seinfeld, suddenly Susan and friends, of which the only show I watched religiously to this day is Seinfeld. Yeah, I mean, who doesn't? Yeah, absolutely absolute classic. To get back into music real quick here. You know, a lot of people remember that oasis was really popular. Then spice girls. I remember the the upandcoming how mad I was so hot for her back then. But Jewel Oh yeah, I remember the fresh I had on jewel man. I thought she and now I think she's fucking disgusting. Oh yeah, but just in history, music history of ninety six, in January kiss returned with the full makeup and original lineup, announcing a world tour. And they did that on the American music awards. Right, but it's that kind of weird that is back back then, like reunions were still like, Holy Shit, they're back, you know, and we learned they're never truly done when they say they're done. Right, Alison chains unplugged was released, which is fucking fantastic. Yeah, Phil Collins and Sammy Hagar. What I put? Well, I'll put them in the same sense. Oh, because they both quit. No, no, not together, they both quit their respective bands. Yeah, prosist and Collins with Genesis, yes, and Van Halen with Sammy Hagar. And here's something that I really want to talk to you about. The I it slip my mind. I must have known this, or I want, I want to think that I knew this, but during my my google searches here, and you know I'm a huge David Bowie Fan. I fucking Love David Bowie. But on September eleven, which is a very important day to Americans now, but back then, nine and ninety six, David Bowie single telling lies, m became the first song offered as a digital single. Oh yeah, by a major record label. Now here's what I found interesting. Bowie launch is a single by hosting an online chat and which he, and to other people pretending to be him, answered questions from the audience. Bowe tells the truth, while the other two who are telling lies. Oh that's it, isn't that fucking trippy? Yeah, that's great. Did I I stumble upon this? I'm like, did I know this? And I forgot this. How cool was that? MMM, I know Bowie was very involved in cyberspace and all the you know, virtual sort of message boards and whatnot back then. Like he was. Bowie wanted to start a hit, start his own like browser whatever. Didn't he wanted to start like Bowie, Nannette, yeah, Boa and and you mentioned telling lies like that. I remember I had, interestingly enough, was just reading on Bowie within the last year or two and came across the same thing. Like Bowie was very involved and yeah, the first song being whatever it was. Yeah, the first song released online first, like that's the first way it was released. I think. Was that where you're saying? Yeah, telling lies, my first digital download tune. Man, yes, set up everything that we know and experience today. It's amazing, Dude. That album that that ended up going on. earthling was was a cool album, and I mean Bowie had his periods of you know, in the s he liked the soul, the motown sound and did the young Americans, and then he in like ninety four ish, did the whole nine inch nails ish industrial outside album, which is still possibly my favorite boo yeah album, outside it or or low, one of those two. But but anyway, telling lies came off of the earthling album, which was more into the jungle techno side of things, and I still think earthling some of it sounds a little dated, but but that album is I still love it. Stills Great. Yeah, it's got that bowieeness that just makes it awesome, like this fucking great, great song. Now one last little tidbit about nineteen ninety six that I kind of found interesting here and people don't talk about anymore at all, but I remember being a big fucking deal of the time was on July Fifth Nineteen Ninety six, the first clone sheep, Dolly was born. Oh Dolly, yeah, I remember that. Yes, it's you know, everything's me like. I remember that too. But do you remember the time how fucking big of a deal it was, because everything's like you're discrediting God if you clone something and Dolly has it's yes, and Dolly went on and she had kids and a spawned and and now they're mixed in with the other animals. So I guess said. You know, nineteen ninety six was a sign of the times for many reasons. We're just, you know, kind of reminiscing about the whole David Bowie thing. But you know, when are we going to start cloning people? Man, I know, I'm just I realized, as you mentioned Bowie. One last time before we let Bowie go...

...for this, I want to say night, nineteen ninety six, don't go bowie. I wasn't say in one. Nineteen Ninety six I actually got an opportunity to see David Bowie. We mentioned all right, I was just talking about how Bowie had his period of like nine inch nails ish the outside album that style, and Bowie toured with nine inch nails and from nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety six I saw nine inch nails like four times in those those two years, and one of which was with Bowie, and I still I'm so happy I had an opportunity to see David Bowie. Well, let's let's let bow we go. Let him go, okay, because I want to explain why. I mean I just gave you, guys, you know, everybody out there, a bunch of stuff that happened in nineteen ninety six. But why do I want to go to nineteen ninety six? That's a very good question. Did this. It was a good question that I want to give an answer to. Okay, well, let me officially ask you. So, Dave, what what personally about nineteen ninety six makes you choose that? Now it's been officially asked, I want to part it. Whoo, that's what it is, baby. No, I mean seriously, man. You think back in nineteen ninety six, I was eighteen years old. It was like cell phones were not a thing right now. Everybody had a fucking I mean some people had a beeper, but if you had a paper, you are fucking drug dealer, you know, or I guess a doctor, you know, quing up a tea time. But still there was still a sense of adventure happening. Then there was still and here's something, it's going to make me sound like a terrible human being, but you know what, the truth is out there. I kind of when I was saying about nineteen seventy eight compared to nineteen ninety six. The same was sex to yeah, and you know free sex and the S and stuff. Is before HIV, and I mean was the worst thing you could catch in the s without a rubble on. I mean you still kept baby clamdia or herpes. Do Herpes her yeah, I know, but still. But it wasn't like a one thousand nine hundred and ninety six was gonna early. Yeah, right, it was still kind of a scary time. Sure, as far as all that's concerned, which you know, everybody who's familiar with history knows, in the s that whole epidemic was kind of ushered in and it was still lingering around in the s and still concern for many teenagers, including myself, because, I mean I was a little promiscuous, you know, I was run around having a good time and you had to make sure you you wrapped it up. But still, one thousand nine hundred and ninety six, you could have a good time all the time. The drugs were fucking amazing because you were going to Raves of the time. You know, I wasn't a Raver, but I was. I was big on you guys bringing shit home, right. I was just gonna say. I was like, yeah, I don't want to go with all the like. Bring a doggy bag. Yeah, exactly. Bring a doggy bag full of crystal Meth, bag please, so I can enjoy it. But I mean that's the Special Ka little's all that great shit. There was still a sense of innocence there, even though I was partying my fucking brains out, so to speak, you know, and and not to say I was jumping into myself when we discussed earlier, but just I if any makes sense to me, Dave was the best year you ever fucking had. I always say one thousand nine hundred and ninety six. I was eighteen years old. I could buy Smut, I could buy smokes, I couldn't buy booze up. Who gave a fuck? It didn't matter anyway. He still got boo who's you know. And if I went back now at the age forty. Oh Boy, oh my God, no, that's that's another interesting idea. there. There's something we didn't really discuss yet. Imagine going back with a knowledge that you have now. Yeah, man, yeah, well, but that's okay. So the there's that's too sided. Now I look back and I think pandoor's box baby. Yeah. Well, if I go back, if I were to go back with all the knowledge I have, the adverse side to that, or the whatever, the other side of that blade, is that I also have all developed all these phobias and weird ticks where I think how social and outgoing I was when I was younger, and I feel like if I went back with all the knowledge and everything that I have now, I don't know, I don't think I'd be able to enjoy it because I be too how you can't do that. It's it's it's the same thing that makes time travel in science fiction impossible, is that there's no way to do it, man, like it just doesn't make sense. Like if I were to go back with the knowledge I have, I don't know if I'd be as willing to go out and hang out all. You know what I mean, like, yeah, and I still be old's like, mentally I'd have the knowledge, but I listen, let's say listen, let's just say right now. We I pick you up, bloop. Yeah, I put you there, bloop, and there you are, as you are right now, and wearing the same clothes you're wearing right now, same everything. Yeah, and guess what, Buddy, you're in your chosen the year of the year two thousand. Okay, would you do anything? Would you? Would you make a wager? Would you bet on a game? Would you say, Oh, I know this is going to happen? Well, you know what I mean. I would wish that I paid more attention to sports, because I would. I'd have to pull a a back to the future too and get these Alman at ALMANAC. Yeah,...

...exactly, because because if you asked me, I don't even know who won the Super Bowl, you know, two years ago. You know what I mean, or whatever. You know what I mean mean. I you can bet on essentially anything. You could sure like, yeah, ager with some fucking weird like Texas oil man, and right, prince said that is going to get married. Oh, I don't know what year she died, but you know what I mean, like yeah, whenever. Well, it might be six. You could do that. You could have done that because princess died. died and I believe, ninety seven. So you could be able to do it ninety six and you could bet on the whole fucking George W I fiasco now in two thousand. To bring that up, the the George W Bush thing. This is how fucked my life was before the year two thousand. I remember when I knocked on your door after the craziness like I mentioned earlier, when you let me in and said Hey, you know, sleep it off for a while. Come, come, come into my home. I remember you told me about the whole George W Bush fiasco that had just happened where the I believe he's you had told me something about how all the letter w's were taken off the keyboards the the leaving administration. They I forget what it was. They were like weird. There was weird shit happening where. Yeah, I don't know. Do you remember what I'm talking about? About? Vaguely under w the outgoing administration for the Clintons or whatever, we're taking like the fucking w's off the like you just mentioned, off the keyboards and kind of making a mess out of the the whole yeah, all the office, the whole the whole situation. But see, like I didn't even know who George W Bush was, like I had missed all the fucking news, Dude, that time period. I don't, I can't. You didn't know what a Chad was, dude, anything. Yeah, right, I was just about to say what the Fuck's a Chad? Then I remembered. I was like, I still don't know what a check but I know, I know what you mean now, but I yeah, at the time I couldn't have told you, dude. I I don't know if I can stress how fucking crazy that time was. Before the year two thousand men. I I remember, just to quickly tell this this story real quick. I woke up in the morning. Basically what would happen was in the morning, I'd I okay, I'll just keep it on. That morning I woke up in the morning and went to like we had all myself and the married couple who I was living with, these these people, we had all fallen asleep in the living room watching TV together the night before and when I woke up, the husband was not there. I wake up, of course I'm dope sick, because that's how you wake up when you're a junkie, and I noticed that his bedroom door is shut. I go to knock on the bedroom door and I'm like, can I come in? Are You you know? Can I get straight, please? Can I I'm I'm sick, and he's not answering, but I noticed the door is cracked open like a hare and I can see he's basically standing against the door. So I I said, you know, why aren't you answering me? This is creeping me out, like what's going on? I'm going to push the door open. I know you're standing right there. If you're going to move, move, I'm pushing the door open. I pushed the door open and it's like pushing dead weight. He was hanging man. We lived in this basement apartment and he had used like an electrical cord and tied it around his neck and he didn't even like snap his neck do this was like he had taken apparently, a bunch of like Med's, like xanax and different sleeping meds, and over the COUNTERSHEIT UNISS on, like we found all these bottles of sleeping pills and when I so he must have just like basically stood there and passed out in the shit, like plus on top of the heroine he had done, like he just basically strangled himself slowly. And I'm saying this to illustrate what a relief it was when I finally left that scenario. That was my one thousand nine hundred and nineteen nine. So. And as a kid growing up with the looming Yuk, the question was always what kind of party are you going to go to when the year two thousand comes? That was the thing with all. Yeah, right, like, I can't wait. It's going to be the biggest party. I can't wait. Dude. I spent new years of the year two thousand in a room shooting cocaine, looking out the windows like a crackhead, like paranoid and puking into a bucket, because doing a lot of cocaine makes you vomit, and and I didn't want to leave the room because it was so paranoid. There were but's not champagne. Yeah, but it's not sharing at all. Know, we were toasting syringes of fucking coke night. Yeah, it was. But the point is, when you're nineteen ninety nine, is that shitty the year two thousand. I had really kind of...

...made up for it. Like I said, pick them up. Yeahah, so we're gonna have to Nick Change Your name of the show from selling out to deep guy in the Dingo, because you made you get some deep shit going. That's a terrible way to enter the year. But, you know, again, luckily things turned around for you a little bit. And I kind of feel bad because my whole thing is drugs and Pussy, man. That's that's the only reason why I want to go back one Thousan nine hundred and ninety six, you know, and and, but what's that? No, I just wanted to say don't feel bad because when I when I did get into two thousand, I wasn't like sober, like I just I got off the heroine in the coke. I still was partying with ecstasy and and you know what I mean. I wasn't clean that all right, thousand. I was still partying and drinking, having fun. But so don't feel bad like that, man. It's just, you know, we I'm just, I'm just explaining why my choice, you know, yeah, I got can up my choice. And now. But here's the thing too. You know, you had mentioned that you wouldn't necessarily change anything. We discussed butterfly of effect in a flex. But if I flip all that good stuff now, interestingly enough me, I just said, Oh, I love to go back and maybe plays a wager or you know whatever. But but the thing that changes my mind is if I knew I was trapped there and I can never return. Oh yeah, absolutely, I would use all the knowledge I have to my advantage and hopefully monetary game. But being a dad now and I have a kid, I would be like, I don't know if I want to change anything. I hunches. Everybody must think I'm a fucking scumbag. I love my kids, so I wouldn't want to fucking lose that. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'd want to return to this time and still have what I have M for that. For that reason alone, that's the only reason. All the choices we've made led us to where we are now and if we're happy where we are now, then you know, there's no real reason to want to go back other than this is a fantasy based little thing we're discussing, just something fun, you know, and while my head a little yeah, it's dark, but little mix a little. Yeah, fair fantasy and reality. They will fun. Fun May not be the right way, but like, yeah, it's just fantasy. And and there's there is an element of that, like high school quarterback, like Oh, I throw the winning touchdown, like reliving that youth. And there's that sadness to that that's like a tragic figure in in media, like when you when you talk about the guy who constantly talks about how good, like they say, peaked in high school or whatever. You know what I mean, people Monday. Yes, like, I don't want to I don't want to say that. That's that's not what we're doing here, man. I know that there's an element of that. And and if we are happy where we are now, then yeah, then we shouldn't want to change anything that brought us here. It's all, it's all lessons, it's all fucking yeah, but if I didn't have a son, I would, yeah, I would fucking go hog wild, man. Maybe, no, no stopping me, baby. I would fucking go back and just cause so much shit. I'd be the richest motherfucker alive and, you know, keeping in theme here, I'd be like Biff Tannin. Yeah, you know what I mean and when they visit him, and back to the future too. Yeah, where he's big fucking fat, Rich Cock sucker. That would be me. I would do that. I would have a selfish brick like that. So you know, hey, I've got nothing wrong. I got no problem with that. Thanks. Thanks, you know. Hey. Yeah, and is there anything else you want to add, because I want to move on a little bit here? Yes, commercial break. Let's I mean let's move on. Yes, no worries, but when we come back we're going to do the selling out sound off and I actually went on twitter and I ask people the same question. You know, what year, when you go back to and why? So I have some interesting responses on that and we will touch on that a little bit after the break. Sounds Great. Video stores maybe all gone, with video Rangers podcast still for business? Video Rangers podcast is a member of infirmary media and you can join US each week as we discuss only the finest rentals movies like no retreat, no surrender, teen wolf to Poli, Scademy for citizens on patrol, the heavenly kid meat balls, part two, cool as ice, Miami connection and a whole bunch of films that'll keep you up all night. Hey kids, remember TV's very special episodes? Well, we got those in stocks, so meet us at the bike shop. For more information, search video rangers podcast on Facebook, twitter and instagram. Hey Kids, I'm the Reverend Johnny Blumpkins and I host a show that's about jokes and stories and games. There's pirates, go fuck yourself, they're swearing, there's stories about poop. It's like Mr Rodgers neighborhood on crack. Blumpkin and friends,...

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You can send us an email selling out show at gmailcom and we have a phone line. You can always call in harasses, talk about your cats, whatever else fits your fancy. At seven, seven, four seven, one, one thousand nine hundred and ninety three. Hey, speaking with the s uh, there's a good year. Two look the right. Yeah, fucking a man, but so I asked them, Hey man, when you say hey man? But I just wrote you know, if you could go back to any point in history, what year and why? And I got a few responses I want to read here. First one is from Darren Murphy, who wrote he I would have to say Christmas one, nineteen eighty six, when all the cool toys were out, gi Joe, transformers, he man and toys. Our Russ was a kids dream. He's still a kid at heart. I didn't think of toys when I thought about going back to one thousand nine hundred and ninety six. MMM, neither did I. But you know, some people love that Shit. Some people still love the toy. You Love Comics, I love music. You know, there are things that stick with us. So I actually one of my earliest memories of my life is a present I got as I think it was my fifth birthday, I want to say, and it was Castle Gray Skull, Oh Nice, from he man, and that's always been like wow, you know, and I think about it in retrospect now, and we didn't have a lot of money as a kid, right, so the fact that, you know, my mom bought that for me was was probably wasn't so cheap, you know, right, and plus my I was like, holy fucking Shit, look at that Castle Gray skull in my living room. I got a made in the shade baby. But yeah, that's an interesting thing, but that also makes me wonder. Okay, so the age old question. Would you go back as yourself now or go back leaping into your body or something? Because if you were like forty years old, you just want to go back to eighty five to play with toys. It could be a little weird. Yeah, I mean it be surprises. I mentioned some a lot of people still enjoy like I've there are countless youtube videos of people still collecting all these toys and they talk about them with the excitement of someone who's still, you know, who's still eight years old. But you know what, whatever brings you happiness, man, good for you. Hey, side note that the whole toy review video thing on youtube is huge. Yeah, my kid is fucking addicted to him when I buy him a new toys like Daddy, I want to go home and make a video. Oh Wow, but yeah, I'm Mike. It's crossed my mind, like sh I try to capitalize on this so my kid. Yeah, I can. So many people do it and they get like tons of free stuff and money or whatever, but I think it's kind of weird. Yeah, I wouldn't risk having some creep like watching your son like creepily. You know. Hey, yeah, exactly, don't go any but yeah, I know what that's crossed my mind. I'm like, I don't know if I really yeah, I'm into that. So all right. To move on. Two guys on Friday wrote one thousand nine hundred and sixty three and go to Dallas to see who shot Kennedy? Who? There we go with the the historical shit, like we're talking about killing Hitler, like that's you know, I don't know, but that's one of those things where, when when you go back to talk about killing Hitler or seeing who killed Kennedy, I mean, yes, you may know technically where to go to like see who killed Kenny, but do you think you'll get anywhere close enough to actually, you know what I mean, like like the people that are going to kill Hitler? How the fuck you gonna Kill Hitler? You know what I mean, like the the military couldn't kill Hitler. How are you going to go back them, dude? But I don't know. I also wonder about what are you going to do with that information once you have it's like, oh, look there there's Joe Blow and he fucking you know, shot this. Dude. Yeah, now, yeah, now, what? Now? You're going to be killed by the government or whoever's conspiring to keep that shit secret in the first place. Right, what I mean? Now you put a target on your own head, Dude. Why? I always found Kennedy to be, in his brother in fact, also to be a very interesting case, of course, as I've read up a lot on it, and so maybe you will. Would see Oswald shoot him, but you don't know the whole conspiracy behind it. So you know, to your point.

Yes, indeed, this one is. This is a weird name. I'm just going to read it as a twitter handle at that. I'm just going to keep saying at for ten minutes straight just to fill some time at Harrot Suki twenty three. I hope I did that name justice. But that person wrote year two thousand and three untill my high school self to get those grades up, because doing good in school is actually important. Hey, that's like, that's actually you know what, on the surface I kind of want to laugh at it. Yeah, it can be like I used to dummy, but yeah, right, but in reality it's like how many people wouldn't want to go back and say, you know, again, fix a wrong or or fix a mistake, kind of like what we did Shawn earlier? I don't know how grades affected this person. I don't know if it ruined their life, because I get like a sea and fizzed. I don't really, I really, I I have no idea. But due to be honest, that's probably the most respect to bull answer. You know what I mean, because that's real. That's like I would have studied harder, I would have you know, and that's a functional and actual thing you could do and go back and do you know what I mean? I'm not going to kill Hitler, but I could go back and maybe get better grade. I'M gonna go back, you fucking life, get straight A's. Yeah, exactly. But then but here's I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna fucking blow your mind right here. Okay, okay, I want to see someone who who says I want to go back, get shit here grades, sit on the fucking couch, suck on the government's Teat, yeah, and not do a goddamn thing with my life. That's the fucking tweet that I wanted to read, but we didn't get so no, all right. But last but not least, we had actually someone from the Infirmary Media Network, one of our partners. So you will hear their Promo. Yeah, homies, you'll hear one of their promos during the show. Actually going to be hearing a lot of infirmary media promos. So we love our network. That's my my Brown nosing for the for the moment. But Reverend Johnny Blumpkin, he wrote Summer One thousand nine hundred and ninety seven. I tell my then fourteen year old self that you gotta Lick it before you kick it. You gotta get it soft and went before you stick it. Well, what a piece of advice to give your younger self. Huh Right, impart your younger self with some valuable knowledge. True, true, and you know what? I've always lived by by. Okay, this is gonna Sound fucking disgusting, but this is real good advice for any young person out there who maybe you know, sewing their oats out there in the wild. But I say, okay, never forget. I used the cake. Don't fill the twinkie. Ice The kid. Yeah, WHONA, Amen. Hey, yeah, man, took you a second. I've I live my life. I've lived my life by that Creedo. You know what we we did our fear episode, and I realize after doing it that I wanted to mention that my biggest fear in life was always filling the twinkie and and the results of that. Like I I know you've always wanted to pass on your your name, and you had to have a child, but I lived my life trying not to trying not to create another human being cursed with the same shit I had. But anyway, just make you sound like I was a madman. I was just fucking plant my seed out here. No, I mean, even though I don't mean what. Yeah, why? You know, I didn't mean that you were just trying to Willie Nilly have a kid. But I just remember that was something that you would talk about when we were younger. was like I I want to be a dad, I want to like you know what I mean, like you wanted. Ultimately, no, you know, I remember that talking about that and it always blew my mind because I was like that was such a foreign concept to me and but, and yeah, it's still kind of a foreign concept to me and I have a kid. So go figure. You know, you just don't know what the fuck is going on, man, I don't know what the Hell is going out. What year is? That's right now. But that was the selling out sound off. We had a few more responses but, and you know what, kind of running a short on time here. We needs notes, but I don't want to thank everybody for responding on twitter. And you know, it's cool, man, I like it when people reach out to us and give us an answer. I try to respond to everybody and unfortunate there was one guy that he liked quoted our tweet and then post it with his response, and I don't normally do this, but I retweeted it so I wouldn't lose it and I can't find it now. Uh. So I don't know if he very needed it or whatever, but it was kind of like, and I got to be honest with you, it's kind of like a rednecky thing where he was like, yeah, I would have fucking done this back in like two thousand and I would have moved into a trailer and fucking Kentucky or something, and it was funny. It sound ridiculous, but it was kind of funny to make some I'm like for all the things that you could go back and change or do or whatever, and you're like, I would fucking move here and do something with the trail at it's very joe dirt to me. Yeah, man, but am Amen, brother, yeehaw and all that good shit. Yeah, all right,...

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...album was the gateway drug for millions of kids to punk rock and to a million other styles of underground or at least underrepresented music. Kurt cobain would wear shirts of artists like Daniel Johnston or flipper to photo shoots with rolling stone or interviews on him TV. When Nirvana played MTV's unplugged show, they covered the vassilines and brought out the Goddamn meat puppets to play a few songs with them. Kurt cobain was, by most accounts, a snarky dude who could be hard to get along with, but he certainly never forgot his roots. To the kids who listened to him, cobain was some larger than life figure who wrote cryptic, sometimes impenetrable lyrics that somehow spoke to each of us. I know that to me personally, he represented something more than just catchy, cool music. I couldn't put a name to it. It was the thing that a lot of kids get when they find that rock star or band that just clicks for them. I hear people talk about kiss with this kind of reverence that to me seems just not just unwarranted but downright silly. I imagine it's a similar currents, though. I feel like Kurt cobain's impact culturally kind of gives my choice of first favorite rock star a bit more credibility than someone who's in to Paul Stanley. But you know, Paul Stanley's fans can still go check him out in a concert to run into him in public occasionally. So who picked a better hero. You know, it's weird having grown up during that period, because the whole cobain story, which is full of unlikely, in borderline obscene success as well as unfathomable tragedy, is also to me seen through that Lens of adolescence, when things still had the potential for magic and legends were still more than mere mortal men. I mean, my adult self knows rationally that Nirvana would just a group of dudes who picked up instruments and didn't go crazy with musical training, who did drugs and could write a decent song, who happened to play the right sequence of shows and, we're seen, by the right people, and who were more talented than they were prepared for the machine of publicity and so celebrity. They were just some dudes and one of them was strung out and ended up killing himself. Of course I know this, but inside me there's a kid who was raised with images of John Lennon and Elvis and Jim Morrison on t shirts and posters. These pictures are totem's iconic as any crucifix. And having seen the rise and fall of Kurt cobain myself, albeit on TV, during my formative years. I can't help but find him at least as worthy of such immortality as any of those other fallen musical icons. I mean, he was a flawed guy and small in stature, but his musical output was impressive and he changed the face of popular music popular culture even forever do. We grew up like during a pretty important time in pop music. I had mentioned earlier in this episode about how there are occasions where credible, important, I'll even say music, does break through to the mainstream. Like it's just that eventually you've got knockoffs of that particular thing, like we had Kurt cobain and then a few years later you've got fucking puddle of mud, you know what I mean? You've got fucking ugly kid Joe, you know. Like I feel like I'm not saying anything new by talking about Kurt cobain's importance. That's, you know, apparent. You know, people talk about bands selling out, but if it weren't for Nirvana, quote unquote, selling out, I don't know what the fuck. I don't know if I would have, you know, found the shit I found like, who knows? The last time I watch MTV news was when Kurt cobain killed himself and now is Cheez man. I was a huge fucking deal at that time, and I mean Kurt cobain was just fucking, just massively popular to every kid in America. I think. Yeah, absolutely, Man. It was a cultural phenomenon and I feel like EMPTV had its alternative nation. It had its hundred twenty minutes for for a period like where there were you would occasionally find some cool shit on there, but Nirvana was like that rare occurrence where like they had no business being unfucking em you know what I mean, like on the cover of like not just a music magazine, but like those dudes were like fashion was being bit everything, like how, Dude, how fucked up is it that? Like, I don't want to say they were poor, but yeah, they probably didn't have a lot of money. So they were like this is what I can afford. I'm wearing...

...some functional shit, like some flannel, some old sweaters that are framed and like fucked up, and and all of a sudden shit like that is being designed and sold at a designer close privates your flannel, let the gap. It was a fucking ridiculous scenario and that's what I was talking about, where like the credibility is there in the beginning but eventually just gets tainted by the fuck it. You know what I mean by style? Makes me think I like lobster right. Lobster was once a poor man's food. It was like something for the peasants and then out of the rich people get out there hook the hands on it. Now so fucking expensive and like considered like a delicacy. To me, it's still the cockroach to the sea. People fucking pay through the nose for the fucking thing. But yeah, the whole fashion, I mean everybody wanted Seattle music, the Seattle scene, some baby, all that stuff, and you mentioned the imitators. I was going to say silver chair was the name of the Australian kids with the whole fat boy song, and they'll like this kid's going to be the next fucking Kurt cobain. And Kurt Cobain was a tragic figure because, despite all the money and all the fame and shit, he kept claiming he wanted his anonymity. I mean, that could have been bullshit, that could have been the truth. We don't really know and we will never know, but that's something that like was lasted with me, even in my days of being in a band, where it's like, yeah, as a kid I was kind of stupid. I'm like why? I still just want to be myself, man, I want to stay true to myself, which you know now you realize that's fucking impossible. You're part of the machine. You you are Pepsi, you are coke, you are fucking Nike the moment you get played on MTV and fucking put on rolling stone and everything that you were talking about. And Product. Yeah, you're a product. You are a couple things. So just about what you were just saying is that, like I I do believe that Kurt Cobain to an extent, I mean to an extent every band wants to make a living with their music. But I I don't have a hard time believing Kurt cobain when he would say, like I don't want this, like you could tell the the spite he had with the interviewers in a lot of those interviews, like to the point where a lot of people he would come across as like a douchebag asshole in some of these interviews. But you got to realize this dude is doing fucking a hundred of these interviews a day, but you know, or whatever, like a week, you know, doing tons of these interviews. By that point Kurk cobain was strung out. He was probably worried about, you know, half those interviews. He's probably starting to get dope, sick, whatever, like I see. That's what I in this, in this nate's notes. I was talking about how now I see bands like when your kid, you see bands as these larger than life things are. At least I did. I don't want to speak for everyone, but I I see a band when I'm a kid as like this, these legends, these you know it's you mentioned gods and totem's, yeah, which I can relate to because, like you said, the tshirts, the merchandise. One of our friends had a huge fucking Kurt cobain poster on his wall and you walk into his house and be like, this guy's a fucking legend, man, this guy. Not to interrupt you here, but I was listening to Nirvana the other day and the rhythmic side of Nirvana still holds up today. Sure, and we knew the lyrics were fucking garbage back then, but it's so hard to find fucking poetry in that to me now, yeah, which which I thought like his words were fucking Gospel as a kid. I listen do now like this is fucking Gobbiny Gook. Yeah, that's what it is, but it just went along with the tune, man, right, you know, right, like. That's why I said I I had written in there about how to his fans. Like as kids we those cryptic, impenetrable, nonsense, pensicle almost lyrics somehow still spoke to us, though. Yeah, like you're saying. And it's weird. You mentioned Silver Chair, and I know this is just a quick little thing I want to mention. I'm never, never liked silver chair, never was a fan of theirs. But when you mentioned that fat boy line, to be honest, I if before you said that, I don't think I remembered that that was one of their lyrics, that fat boy. Now it's all coming back to me. Whatever he says, fat boy, whatever the chorus of that song is. Yeah, but do you realize you did that dude? That dude suffered from Anorexia. Did you know that? Yeah, it might minor heard that. Yeah, sure, but I never would have put that together. That he's singing fat boy, all this like that dude was a scrawny dude, like Kurt cobain. Anytime I saw him he was a thin, fucking real thin dude. And it's weird to think now that, oh yeah, there's some he said fat boy, Blah, blah, blah, like I never put that together before, but whatever's ruggling. Yeah, he was dealing with some inner fucking demons, man, and he was dealing with it by ripping up Nirvana. Well, I they weren't like assembled, I think they. I don't think that was like, Oh yeah, prepackaged. You know. I want...

...to say like a boy band kind of thing, where we's like hey, you know, seattle is, where's that? But Hey, you know what, we're going down under to Australia, going to find us some freaking, I don't know, goodlooking kids. Throws guitars on them and there you go. And those kids probably thought they were artists. And we're emotionally damaged afterwards, like I guess a child actor would be. When you're thrown away. You like, you know, fucking hip anymore. You're not selling record. See you later. They I fucking whatever. Your name, why? Don't even know the kids name. I don't either. That that be that? Yep, that's all. I mean. Just talk about the machine of fame, the the weird. I mean because because we I talked about how that they are those that rockstar status is legendary and larger than life and totemic and iconic like imation. But the the media, the celebrity machine, their job is to do that, to like perpetuate that image and like, I mean to somebody like me who and you, you know, people that appreciate music and and grew up writing music and understanding what it's like to write music, I I hold those people up anyway because I just respect what they do. Talent wise, like somebody whatever, whatever, musician, Kirk Cobaine, any of them. But the media, their job is to make them seem larger than life, regardless, you know, and and because, again, they're selling a product, they're you know, they they have to create this Mystique, create this thing that this person is better than you, so you should buy their shit, you know, and I guess a lot of the public may need that, like people that don't necessarily know what goes into writing music or don't really care. It's like you can still sell albums to these people, because you, yeah, either you get you get a team of people writing songs for them, like you mentioned, like I don't know if silver chair did that, but but they won't started as do now. I mean any any popular artists, like you see Taylor Swift, she wins an award. There's like song written by a lately a fucking people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, that's fucked up. But but whatever, I mean. I just I just wanted to talk about how. Yeah, and you know what? I actually recall when in Utero, right before it came out, there was like a big deal because I guess the record label rejected it the first the first dress because it wasn't commercial enough, right, and they did that specifically. Nirvana wrote it specifically to not be as good, like they wanted to do something more abrasive and kind of say fuck you to the but anyway, go on. I'm sorry. No, no, you're not interrupting me, I'm just saying. You know, in my my little note section earlier, Dave's notes, I guess when I was talking about nineteen ninety six, I didn't mention like Tupac Shakur was murdered in nineteen and ninety six. And the reason why I bring this up is because what iconic musician has died in the last whatever, twenty five years? And you know, of course, to PAC and Biggie, the rap guys, Kurk Cobain, that that's really had like such a big impact on people. We're in. You know, we talked a lot about David Bowie, who would passed recently, right, but even then he lived a long life. This is you know, how many of these tragic young music musicians have died since Kurt cobain that have have that status, right? You know I mean that level? No, no, not level. That's that's not right there, because we've mentioned the deaths of someone like Chris Cornell or whatever, but that, I mean, as important as Chris Cornell is to a lot of people, Kurt cobain's death was. Dude. You had fucking these huge vigils, like millions of candles, you know what I mean, like people standing like these huge Freakin get together as of people like standing with candles crying. Did I remember a kid calling me after school when Kurkobain died? I got home from my school that day and saw it on MTV news or whatever it was. I got this phone call from a kid that I didn't even really talk to in school, like I knew him. He sat next to me in some classes and we're friendly enough to say hi. I didn't even know this kid at my fucking phone number. He calls me. He's like did you? Did you hear? I'm not making fun I don't mean to make fun of him, but he was like crying, did you hear? And I'm like who the fuck is this? I go how did you fucking yellow pages? Yeah, man, I'm like it was, but it brought people like it. I don't know, it was weird. It was a cultural event, like John Lennon died. It was that sort of thing. Yeah, because they they were the top of their game. They were in the height of their success. I mean, you know, Kurko bean at that point was its riches fucking anybody else. He is sex successful. Is Hit anybody else. He was recognized all of the world and you know great things were to come from the guy and whoop. So overright. But I think all the blow, I think it's more than just the height of it's true they were at the height of their success, but there was something I don't know. There's something...

...about like John Lennon, Kurt cobain. It wasn't just that they were really successful people, because, I mean, if Madonna fucking died tomorrow, I mean you'd have some crazy shit like Michael. I guess Michael Jackson was another one. But it's something about the way they touch people in a different way than like, you know, like if seline Diana died at the peak of first success, I don't think it would have been that you know what I mean? You wouldn't have had a fucking crew. I don't know know. But you brought up Madonna. And let's say Madonna died in like eighty six or something. Okay, then, don't you think they would been fucking all these, you know, Madonna clad girls crying in the fucking streets. She was huge. Yeah, maybe you know same people. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson died one thousand nine hundred and eighty four. You know, a kind of throwing dates out there randomly be here, but you know what I mean. It's like M Kurt Cobain died today compared to then, right, would it still have all the fanfare and everything? Who knows, he might have wrote a couple shitty albums, ran a fucking said something bad politically. The turn people off? We don't know, I mean, because don't. But at that point in time, that culture, that year, I mean it was like all I hate to say this, it sounds terrible, but like all the stars were aligned right when he would achieve that kind of legendary status for indeed killing himself right. There's something strange about that, when someone's death kind of is a perfect ending to their to their legacy, or whatever it is. I don't I don't know what would have happened if curs. I don't want to say that it's good that he died young. Of course it's not, but it's it's part of the legend, the the you know, the cultural story and and but then you have someone like David Bowie. Bowie died, as we mentioned. It wasn't a tragic young death. He died in older age. He's he lived a full life, but he still managed to turn his death into this amazing piece of art. Like his last album is full of references to his own death. He he put things on his album that weren't discovered until after he died. Like it's just black stuff. Yeah, the artwork in the black start like but but anyway, I mean, yeah, that's a whole other subject with Bowie, but it's just I don't know, it's interesting to think that we're all human, we all die, we all you know, it's just a function. We all just animals and animals die. It's life. No one gives a fuck about me, nate. They will never be a poster about me or of me. Rather hang it on somebody's wall. And if you do have it, you're a little you're little off. There's something wrong with you. I'm calling the COPS. Well, but I I was just going to say I have a poster of you. But you know, I'm calling the cops. I've been calling the POPO SCOOP, scoop, they're coming to your house man. You know I will say this. You know just sound like an old fogy, but there are days I wanted to myself and I think to myself, and I've only appreciated him more is I've progressively gotten older. But John Lennon, I think we need more of him today and we did then. It seems like like if he was still alive today, I'm like the world might be a better place. I agree, you know, especially in the in the fucking crazy, fucking bullshit we live in. But right, but anyway. So, yeah, all right, man, you you want to add anything else to this? So we she let all these these folks hit the road. I mean, yeah, Thet's time to listen to us and talk about our our years that we would travel back to listen to our soundoffs, our nate's notes. And me just I feel like I have a lot of saliva in my mouth. Yeah, do I sound like I have a lot of salive at my mouth and I spewing like Um Rabies. Well, now that you mention it, but if you notice it, don't feel weird. So all right. Well, that's a great way to end the show. I want to thank each and every one of you for listening. I truly appreciate it. Virtual hugs for all of you. I am reaching out through the air waves the internet whenever we call this crazy shit and I'm squeezing you. You feel it? Yeah, feel it, feel that Shit speak. Speaking of calling the cops. Anyway, I am Dave. That is nate, and this has been selling out. He's infirmary media. How to show up with cocacola energy. You're tired and you're thinking of canceling on your friends. Don't do it. Every time you cancel on a friend, a Unicorn loses its horn and becomes a regular horse. Do you really want that on your contents? Instead, grab an ice cold can of cocacola energy, with delicious coke taste and reinvigorating energy. Keep the UNICORNS alive. Show up every day with...

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