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Episode 56 · 1 year ago

Ep.#56 Fuddy Duddy

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Show descriptions...what a chore! So let's just cut to the chase: Dave's depressed, Nate nearly killed a guy in prison over a walkman, there's talk of the Seattle sound and Mark Lanegan's awesome new book 'Sing Backwards and Weep', plus a rant for the ages about the current state of planet earth. Yes, our cuss quota is met in abundance, so tell your kids to scram. Enjoy!

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What was my wife watching the other day? Some movie, and I feel like I'm fucking beating a dead horse here, and I am. I apologize for this, but it was about rich people falling in love, and I said, who wants to watch a movie about rich people doing fucking shit that rich people do right, and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to start a fucking class war here and say that fucking rich people aren't people, but still, things come easier to people with money. Sure, it's a fucking fact. You know what I mean. It's just, it's just the way it is. So I don't I don't care about those stories. I don't want to hear about a life that's easily lived, made even easier because the fact that you have unlimited resources. I want to hear these fucking down right nasty, dirty tales of true life. Welcome to the selling out show. Your always what it does is beaches into your brain chemically and no, cat your happiest memory chemically and then blocks on that emotion and releases it chemically and then it keeps your happy, happy. Hello, hello, hello, and thank you for tuning into the selling out show, where we screw up life at our leisure for your listening pleasure. I am one of your host David Schiltz, and over here by my side is my partner in crime, Mr Nate Gore Zinski. Nate, how the hell are you pretty good coverting grass? It was just right whacking you. Were We whacking? Really? Yeah, I look like swamp thing. I'm all covered in grabs. If you could see my legs that look yeah, I got splattered. I GETS SPLATTERED WITH POISON IVY and get itchy some sizes. Sucks a man, but anyway, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, really is man. You know, it's kind of weird, like before we start a recording sesh, you're always up to something that's really not pleasant. Yeah, how are you me? Yeah, well, I've actually been a little bit depressed lately. I've been down in the dump. So yeah, which which is rare for me, doesn't happen very often. But yeah, you know, it's one of those things where I don't even know if I could call it being depressed because I'm not a doctor, I'm not a professional. I just know I just been man, you know what I mean? I've been approaching life, looking at every aspect of my existence and going. Yeah, yeah, well, whatever. But it seems like these kind of things always start with a simple thought and a spiral. They grow from there. They infect you much like the grass all over your legs that will make you itchy, that you state might in fact be poison ivy. And for me this time, I was just thinking about how it's two thousand and twenty right, this has been the fucking craziest year and it maybe even in recorded history. I mean with viruses and racial injustice and just on and on the list. We all know what I'm talking about, right. HMM. Yeah, but but that's not what it's been shit. Yeah, thanks, but but that's not what kind of kicked me off here. Rather, I was thinking the last decade prior to two thousand and twenty, right, we're looking at two thousand and ten till now. HMM, flew by. I mean it really just went by in the blink of an eye, and I was comparing that to when I was younger. And if I look at the s compared to the s, let's even say a seven year scope on nineteen eighty three to nineteen ninety, that seemed like an infinity. Yeah, my God, that seemed like it took forever, and not in a bad way. But you can look back in a...

...nostalgic fashion with those lenses on and recall great memories, bad memories, but but they're they're okay, and some good things happened to me too in the last decade. Don't get me wrong. I became a father, I got married, all these wonderful things, but it just went so fucking fast to me. Yeah, so I guess to kind of compare the two, one was molasses and the other one was just nothing but fucking straight up lightning, you know what I mean, and that's bum me out. That really got to because I'm like, is this what it's like getting older? MMM, you know, the good old days are gone. They're gone. I fucking history, man, and now everything is just going to happen so fucking fast and just so quick, until I'm dead. M Yeah, you're on the downhill, man. They should cheer me up. Hey, listen, I think about that shit all the time. I can't help it, because I think it's personal. I think that for a no, say our grandparents generation, and they probably felt that way about those s, you know, eighty three to ninety, because they were at that age. It's like it happens in your life. Like when you're young, it seems like shit takes forever because that's all you've lived. Like when you're for and someone says, Oh, you got to wait a year for something, you're like that's a quarter of my life. Like that feels like forever. Right now that we're older, a year is a shorter we've lived so many years. It's like it's a tiny fraction of what we've lived. So it feels shorter. Yeah, welder, we get yeah, so it does. It feels like we're flying forward, and it is. It's frustrating. You'd got to make the most of the time you have. Go on vacations, do this shit when you know what, when you can. We're in the middle of this, you know, pandemic shit, but whatever you can do, man, you got to make memory as memories are right. Yeah, yeah, that's what life is. It is it truly. It's just I had one of those moments where I got lightheaded and I felt like my feet were about to just, you know, go out from underneath me, or my legs or knees or whatever extremity gives up before you pass out. But because I was. I was looking in the mirror, hmm, and I was thinking I could just imagine the sound effect, like the door closing when you with your eyes. If I blink right now, by the time I close my eyes, I'll be fucking dead. You know, that's how it felt. It felt the gravity the situation to me was just so heavy. I couldn't escape it, damn, and it really bothered me. And I think again, we brought it up just a few minutes ago, with everything going on now, HMM. Plus, things are going well for me at work in and a combination just everything all at once really is a terrible time to think about your own mortalities. It's not really the best, you know, yeah, for environments, yeah, and frame of mine. Thank you, to be in and kind of ponder life's biggest question. But that's where I found myself and I just could not escape that funk. And I'm really good with that now. I know I've had problems with it in the past. I've been stuck in ruts, but lately, man, I can look at the bright side of things, silver lining to every fucking cloud, skip it of lit the dumb fucking walking down the street, happy as a motherfucker pig and shit. Yeah, let this last week, man, now just hasn't been working for me. So sucks that. I sympathize. I think you know, we're just hitting that point. This is the this theeds were supposed to have a midlife crisis. Man, if we had money, we could buy a fucking Ferrari. This is speedboat. Oh, don't even get me started about the money. That's another thing. My kid is enamored with these fucking youtube channels. He can't stop watching him and I'm watching with them and I'm looking all these rich kids making fucking more money because you're on youtube, because they had money to do the video and in the first place. Crazy, and that bums me out. To him like this is the new these are the new millionaires, this is how people make money. Now this one, and I won't I won't say their name because I don't remember it, only to be honest with you, but they make fucking box forts on Youtube and they got millions...

...of fucking subscribers because they build these fucking giant box force. And I was thinking if these privileged fucking twats didn't have folks that live in this big, beautiful house with all this fucking dispensable income they could theirs throw at the kids, and I mean these guys are building box force and they put an xboxes in them and lighting them up and all this other stuff. I'm like, you know, normal kids can't do that, but here's my son watching this stuff and he thinks they're the best thing since sliced bread. I'm already, you know, it wearing like you. I was wearing black. I was when you were a teenager, you know, when your goth phase. I was walking around, mind in a haze, all of this dart out about everything. I see this and like fuck these guys, man. I'm yeah, this crap off, turn it off. Yeah, that was the straw that broke the camels back. It was like you're already, you know, teetering on the edge of insanity and this, this video, this youngster maker, assume through millionaire, just kind of broke you. And the headlines read what set him off. He went on this murderous rampage. It's like, yeah, oh, he watched a freaking smash video or something exactly. That's it. I'm you know what, you're not that far off. There was even a moment I was a little bit worried I was going to be like Kevin Spacey's character in seven. Yeah, they're gonna find my manifesto and be like, I vomited on the subway when I saw this gross motherfucker. But I mean everything is just wrong. I just felt like this sucks, that sucks. Fuck you, fuck this, fuck everything, you know what I mean? Yeah, I was ready to become the old funny duddy. Yeah, Bitch says fuck you. Yeah, I mean. Well, no, I mean, I wasn't really going to go that far. You know, the mine does wonders, and this is out happens. This is how it happens. Then I gonna say I do have a creative imagination. So that's where these thoughts come from. I don't actually, you know, bring them to lightened, enforce and in reality, if you will, but still, you know, yeah, definitely, I've I took myself down to Funky town and is not been a pleasurable trip, and it is your duty, your responsibility as my friend, to cheer me up. All right, so, you know, you just said it's all downhill from here, and that's not what I needed to hear. You See, yeah, I hope you cheer up I mean, you know I can. I can sing you a tune or dance a little Jig for you. That would work. Well, I don't have the energy right now. I just covered grass. Sorry, man. Yeah, well, Hey, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? So, nate, you won't dance for me, you won't do a little Jig, nor cheer me up. But you know what, I think you're going to brighten up the show. I think you're going to lift us all up and bring us some serious happiness right now, because you want to talk about prison. Yeah, I realized it have been a while since I kind of was reminiscing about those days. Tell them jail stories. Yeah, it seems like we had a stretch where I wouldn't shut up about it, and so I you know, I kind of slow down on it and I feel like, I don't know, it would be a good time as any to tell a happy story of the old days behind bars. But well, you know, in essence that does work for me because a lot of times, to kind of kick me in the ass, you have to say to me, well, at least you're not suffering with this, or at least you know you don't have to deal with that right, so stop fucking feeling pity for yourself, asshole. And in this case I am not behind bars yet. So yes, a smile is cracking on this stone face. Good, I'm glad, because I smile to thinking back come because I'm not there anymore either. And this, this story is just quickly about an early experience with like a reality check kind so, all right, I'd been in I had been incarcerated for I was a waiting trial. Basically, I got locked up for something, whatever it was and shoplifting or something,...

...and I had to wait thirty days before my court day and they would not let me out, like they wouldn't give me a bail because I'd have it of not going when I yeah, when they let me out, I would never make it. Catch me if you can, and they got just yeah. So they had me, they weren't let me go. So I wait this thirty days, but I'd never been locked up before at all, like other than at the police station over the weekend or something. But I'm in there and you do see, you know, you start to get a routine within a week or two. So I was in a block where I kind of had my routine. The CEO's sometimes would come in and play movies on the block on the evenings and it would calm everyone down because the block was a convert they were so overcrowded they converted this gym. It was a big, like basketball court gym area, and they put bunks in a circle around the walls and in one corner there was a TV and at night we'd all kind of sit in a circle. It was like a theater. Hunch Mambi. Yeah, you know, they bring in good movies and whatever. We'd watch fan only guy or simpsons or whatever. And so, anyway, Josh Shank Redemption. Yeah, yeah, it was being brantuous. Yeah, well, yeah, well, we watch that in there. Actually, we'd watch that, you sears. Yeah, man, I mean, Whoa, yeah, it's it's a good movie and it's a relatable subject. So yeah, but still you don't think he'd bring a film into prison as about breaking out of prison? Yeah, you know, I mean it's screen that one to say. Yeah, I don't know if that's the best idea. The Green Mile maybe. I don't know. Shot Shank redemption and well, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I've seen that in there. At some point in the following years. But okay, anyway, that this time I had been in, like I said, probably a couple weeks. At this point I was towards the end, maybe at a week or so left before court, and I had gotten a Walkman, because that's like number one thing in there. It helps, just listen to music, just helps, you know, and right, yeah, I bat escape. And so anyway, I had the Walkman. It was great, but not everyone can afford a Walkman, not that it's that expensive, but some people just don't have any money whatever. So you always have people asking to borrow it and you can be an asshole. There's some people that it's not necessarily being an asshole, because sometimes people will take advantage of you. And I was more leanient with letting it out because I had friends. We play cards. You get a little group that you always play but you don't really know each other. You just always at the card table together and you make small talk or whatever, but these aren't your friends, these are people doing time with you and I was getting comfortable and I would lend out my walkman sometimes. So anyway, this one time there's this this dude that I play cards with all the time and he asked to use it and he'd been borrowing it all day. Basically I was doing other shit, I didn't care, I wasn't using it. No, bands right. so He'd probably had it for a good eight hours at this point and another friend of mine came up and asked, can I use your Walkman and I said, Oh, you know what, this dude has it. Go over to him and tell him. I said, it's cool, but you know, you can use your borrow it. Yeah, sure, yeah. So he goes over and a few minutes later he comes back and he's like he won't give it up. I'm like, what do you mean? He won't give it up, and he said I don't know. Like I went over to find out what was up and the guy basically said it's my walkman. Oh Shit, Dude, you've had it all day. I'm like my friend, he's like, don't send somebody over like died. If you want your shit back, you come and get it now. It's mine, and I don't under even understand the logic on that he was pulling it. There's all these weird rules about respect and like what will offend people, and I've mentioned before I think that that Chow. If you happen to reach...

...for something in your arm goes over someone else's tray, for example, they are fully vindicated by for punching you in the face, like they can start a fight off or your arm going over a tray. So drop your dandy my mash potatoes, motherfucker. You know I don't Dand em up food and and I've seen it happen without even a word spoken, somebody reaches over the table, boom punch, and I just mean so anyway, that's just an example of like these weird rules. So I didn't even I don't even know why this dude got offended by me sending someone over to ask for my Walkman, but he apparently was probably just look for an excuse and was saying I want this fucking walking and so right, I was new and I'm sure I looked fairly new, you know, like I I wasn't vulnerable pull some tough guy routine. I wasn't, you know, I didn't want to be taken advantage of, and that's why, basically, I said do that's my shit, and he was like, you know, if you want it, you can whatever. We can take it to the mock closet. You can get it back in the mock closet, which is code for fighting. There wasn't even a mock closet on this block because it was a dam. Like I said, we weren't near the mock closet. was that like some of them on the floor with you reference or something? No, that and every other block that is where the fights take place because it's in the corners. The CEO's can't see it from the booth. It's like a little but doesn't seem like a big area for a fight. But that's the point. That's the point. You Cain't get away. That's fighting. Fighting doesn't necessarily include a lot of like long range punches. You can kicks and Shit. It's like and that's the point. This, this story actually takes place in a bathroom and it's kind of like a high school bathroom. It's got stalls and this is rare and jailmost cells have a toilet in him. This is a block. We're all, like I said, in one big room. So we have a bathroom and people go in there to smoke pot or do whatever, smoke cigarettes and to fight. So did we get in the room and he puts the Walkman down like on the sink next to where he's standing. He's kind of standing next to the sinks and Shit, and I just I knew I had to fight to do like. I couldn't just like back down, and so my first thinking, you're terrified, right, you're s death. Yeah, man, like I'm reliving it in my mind right now, just thinking where I was in my head at that time, and it was like I was good. This dude was really like he wasn't huge, but he was very tall. He was taller than me. I'm a tall dude, and this guy was easily a couple inches taller than me. And he wasn't huge, but he was cut like he'd like this basketball player body. And yes, he was. You were not in the best of shape at the kind you have this kind. We're hurting for sure. Yeah, dude, he had this kind of dead eye stayre. That was it was. It was fairly intimidating to a new kid going to jail. So anyway, my first instinct was just rushed this do like just like like plow into him. I just like kind of raging and he wasn't expecting it and it kind of just knocked him back and he fell and cracked. On his way down, he cracks his head on this the paper towel dispensers and everything's like this kind of slanted angle, like stainless steel, and he just cracked his head on the side of it and dude, the head wounds bleed a lot. There was like he's his head starting to bleed, his hair's all bloody and by now there's a big commotion and I just grabbed my fucking walk then and went out, went out the door and it yeah, and that dude he came out and he couldn't really hide his hair was like huge and like just this big afrow he hair and and it was all this the section of it that was just bloody and he didn't have time to really wash it up and I...

...don't know. The point is the CEO's were like what happened, and he got taken to the infirmary and by the time I he I never saw this dude again because I went to court by the time he was either coming back or maybe they put him in another another block or whatever, because he I don't know. But I never gotten any shit over it. I didn't have any marks on me. They come around on periodically and do checks, like if someone is in a fight and they know it, they'll go around, like can look at your hands if you have, you know, chipped up hands, like or swollen hands, whatever it's like. They may know a little inspections. But yeah, but that's great. So you you have fuck this motherfucker up, but look at you, Harry Manelow, whenever the hell you want it to yeah, man. So, yeah, don't take my music, man, of all things. You Know Me. Yeah, fucking music. I'll bum rushing, man, I'll knock you out. This paper Towel Dispenser, right, was it like a roll or was it one of those automated kind or a crank kind of they were. They were like the fold. They're folded up like Napkins. They're the like the Brown utilitarian paper towels, but they're the ones that are like Napkins, basically folded up like that, but they're paper towel material full of individual sleep. Yeah, yeah, I was all looking because nothing drives me crazier in life than when someone doesn't replace a toilet paper roll or a paper towel roll and the dispensation. Yeah, but I was thinking, well, if nate story rings true, then leaving that empty a paper Towel Dispenser might actually just Save Your Life and keep your possession of a Walkman. But I guess that's not the case because it's not the same thing. Yeah, but I didn't know this. This was angled stainless. You the funny thing. Everything has these weird angles that go downward. I noticed one time, like they make the cells so there's no things that you can like tie a rope and hang yourself with. They're very careful and covering their ass from people committing suicide. Don't ask how I thought of that Shit, but it's like you look around the room you're like wow, it's like there's everything's at these weird angles coming off the wall where it's like anything would slip off, like you can't hang a coat on anything. You know, they do have coat hooks, but they're the type that if you pull on them, they just like fold down and but it's weird. I feel like that's a problem they've dealt with, you know, and and so it's it's weird. It's a weird thing. This is weird reality of like Morbid Shit when you're in these cells but this block that I had to fight in then wasn't like that. Like I said, it was all these bunk beds around. It was like it was like camp. Yeah, like count cards. And I was going to say you said there's like a school bathroom is converted gymnasium. So that's what I'm imagining. You know, you like a High School Basketball Court and off for the side you get your shitters where you can not kill yourself if you want to, but definitely fun somebody up. That's right, man. Yeah, there you you have the right of the right image, because that's exactly what it what it looks like. So, but anyway, yeah, it was just it's a weird story, story of victory. Yeah, the underdog coming out on top and keeping his music, because, I'll hand it in a kind of bitchy way, like it wasn't the top. You absolutely panicked and Bumbrush the motherfucker. But Hey, you know what I guess in a situation like that, no, hold hard. If I could, people bite each other. Do those oak ends as it shanks alone a proof that people don't fight fair. And there, you know, because a lot of people have them, a lot of people carry him, and so I should write a book man. Well, you don't need to. That's what we have the podcast for. All right, we got nate's notes coming up, but before we do that I want to thank the partners of this fine program it's my show, so I can call it fine, and these are definitely great companies with products you should check out and enjoy. First up we have Alpine hempcom. If you haven't joined the CBD Revolution, what the Hell Are you waiting for? I ucbd to...

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...out and definitely worth remembering. Unfortunately, as I sort of alluded to earlier, a big problem for a lot of the artists in Seattle was the scourge of heroin addiction. Mother love bone was a band that actually was headed to become perhaps the first of the lot to break through to mainstream success, but singer Andy Wood died right before their album was scheduled to be released, and some of their members went on to form Pearl, Jam Alice and chains. Lost Lane stalely and original bassist Mike Star to heroin and Nirvana is Kurt cobain was famously struggling with it throughout the tragically short life of his bands existence, until he killed himself in one thousand nine hundred and ninety four. The problem ran a lot deeper. But those are just the more famous victims of the drugs seductive grasp. Many more dealt with the issue, and one that has come out the other side alive and well, yet not without some scars and a harrowing story, is x Screaming Trees Front Man and prolific solo artist Mark Lanigan. A while back Lanigan released a memoir called singing backwards and weep. It's the kind of book I couldn't wait to read once I heard about it, and it did not disappoint. It's full of lower from the old Seattle days, with gritty stories involving his friends, which included cobain and Lane Staley, who are both good friends of his. There are lots of tales of debauchery and the rough ride of a touring musician trying to maintain a habit while on tour. I've mentioned on other episodes how hard that can be, just traveling to different states. From my own small amount of experience, Landigan writes about rainy nights in English bus stops and getting ripped off in Amsterdam, trying to navigate the seedy underbelly of cities around the world. Along the way, there are appearances by everyone from ministries Al Jurgensen, Greg Sage from the wipers, the late Jeff Pierce of the gun club, all the way to a creepy cameo from Blackie Damn it, father of Anthony Keytis, from the Redhot Chili peppers. There are a lot more characters in the tails, some famous, some not, but they all populate a truly dark yet colorful world, as told by a guy who pulls no punches and who seems as willing to bear his track marked soul as any writer from the beat generation or someone like Jim Carroll or Jerry Stall, even with a similar sort of cadence and appreciation for the allure of the grimy and gritty world we addicts face daily. It's a living hell during those desperate years, but if you make it to the other end, there's probably a good book in every one of us. Landigan was fortunate enough to not only make it to the other side of that deadly quagmire, but also to be a really talented singer and writer as a result, we all benefit from his seriously compelling book and from his insanely prolific body of musical work. Now to touch on that work. The screaming trees were unfortunately relegated to the long list of also rans from the aforementioned Seattle scene, but they themselves put out a ton of albums. Many were independently recorded and released, and by the time they were signed to epic records they were basically at the end of their rope. Interpersonal issues became basically unbearable, and mark's...

...heroin problem made things even worse. On top of that, Lanigan was growing tired of the constraints of singing trees songs that were more or less all written by guitarist Lee Connor, and antagonistic character in mark's tale. He had started working on solo stuff while the trees were still a thing, and, as is the case with many in that scenario, the solo work became far more intriguing and satisfying. Eventually the screaming trees ended and without doing a complete synopsis on this book, Mark cleaned up his act and went on to become this amazing artist, just overflowing with musical talent. Josh homy from the S Stoner rock band Caius and touring guitarist for screaming trees, at the tail end of their existence, started a band called Queens of the Stone Age and invited mark to sing on some songs. Greg Dooley of the Afghan whigs worked with mark on some of his post whigs work in the twilight singers, and the two of them did a great project called the gutter twins. Isabel Campbell of bell and Sebastian fame did a couple albums with mark that are definitely worth checking out. He's done work with electronic artists like uncle and moby and, on top of all of this, Land Agan has released incredible solo albums at a dizzying pace. He's become kind of a modern day grizzled troubadour in the tradition of Leonard Cohen or Tom Waits, but with endless inspiration from such a crazy past with which to write heartbreaking songs that you you know are truly Cathartic exorcisms of the spirits of a troubled past. I'm so grateful that Mark Lanigan has survived when the majority of his musically and chemically dependent peers from the old days have become literal casualties of the old days. He's long since proven himself to be an inimitable voice in the musical landscape, both artistically and literally. I hope to be listening to his raspally beautiful voice for years and years to come. You ever listen to mark Lanigan, Dave nearly didding? Did He of course, man Yescos, he's are great, but well, I seed. No, no, no, you got me, there, you've got me. I have not heard his solo work in the book. I was very interested in. I'm actually said you would text about it, because I was like wow, this is looks right up my alley for a worthwhile read. Yeah, so, no, and I'm going to have to rectify this. I'M gonna have to change this whole scenario around and check it out. Yeah, it's such a great book, Man, and and you being fans of writers like Jerry Stall, you know that I mentioned. You know some of these, some he's up there with. Some of these like classic kind of there. They're almost that beat generation style. You know, it's very right. I finally here. Yeah, yeah, it's hip. It's very filled with drug use, it's well written and kind of poetic, like mark landing, and does a good job like making his memoir into something like that, like something that's on par with, you know, William Barrows Book. I'd say I put him on those lofty those lofty heights. It's great, dude. You would definitely enjoy it and it's dude. The stories about like Al Jurgensen, you know, I'll Jargenson's a from ministries, a famous heroin addict. He's act, you know, he hasn't used in a long time now, but his his story is pretty wellknown. But Anyway, this story is about him. In their stories about Liam Gallagher from oasis, who's a notorious asshole,...

...and how he clashed with Mart like Mark Lanigan's not afraid to fight, like talking about fighting and like all that Shit. Man, he's it's a great story. Is a great book and, like I said, I'm glad he came out. But, Dude, you have to listen to solo works. Yeah, that's what I do, amant. Yeah, it's so good, dude. It's amazing. And there's it's the hop on the tube. Yeah, I just did by you too early or now I'm going to have to hop on it to hear some Mark Lennigan Solo stuff. I'll send you a few suggestions because Lea's yeah, I think he'd lease do yeah, yeah, yeah, totally man. And seems like it's coincidentally everything that we do on this show ties into something else. And you know it's when you talk about the you know, likening him to Jerry Stall of William Burrows or what have you. And we're just talking about the youtube and stuff and I was bitching about the rich kids making more money on Youtube. The stories or memoirs, biographies, I love to read. I need to have dirt under the fingernails, you know what I mean? I need the grit, I need the grime, I need the failure, I need the hard times. You know, wrecking crew by John Albert is one of my favorite books of all time. If you not read wrecking crew, go out find it on Amazon or local books or wherever you want. Right. I read that. Yeah, and there was about a bunch of junkies that were in bands and basically found a common love, not through narcotics and drugs but playing on a local baseball team. They were the bad news bears of the Junkie set. Really and it's a true story and it's fucking magnificently. I just can't get enough of that kind of stuff. So this I mean knowing that you like the book, hearing that you know it's just honest and raw. Dude, I'm sold. I'm going to go. I can buy it this afternoon. Yeah, it talked about gritty. You'll feel like you have to take a shower after you read it. Man, it's you love me. It's a great book, man, it's real. That's what I need. Those are the kind of stories that I want. It's like, what was my wife watching the other day? Some movie, and I feel like I'm fucking beating a dead horse here, and I am. I apologize for this, but it was about rich people falling in love, and I said, who wants to watch a movie about rich people doing fucking Shit that rich people do? Right, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to start a fucking class war here and say that fucking rich people aren't people, but still, things come easier to people with money. Sure, it's a fucking fact. You know what I mean. It's just it's just the way it is. So I don't I don't care about those stories. I don't want to hear about a life that's is easily lived, made even easier because the fact that you have unlimited resources. I want to hear these fucking down right nasty, dirty tales of true life. Yeah, yeah, like ours. You know, back sing, backwards and week it's called. Man, it's a great title, to great fucking title. Holy Cow. Well, Yep, your recommendation, you know, fucking like I said, I was already interested in checking it out. I will go to the corporate overlord Amazon as we speak, Boo boo, boo, Boo boo, or I will give you my money and send me the motherfucking book. Thank you, master. Thank you, master Amazon. I don't know what I had do without Amazon, which is terrible as a horrible way to live. I swear to God. I ordered so much fucking shit from them and they treat that people like shit. What am I doing? What's the matter with my life? HMM, our leader, Jeff Bezos, I know, man, I'm fucking see the Jeff bezos from sucking Mickey Mouse's Dick. I don't know what the fuck's going on anymore. I turn around, I'm just fucking surrounded by fucking corporate dicks. I got a fucking tickle some balls and lick some heads and fucking give them my money. This is a life by live, a reality TV show. President, God, you know, I was starting to think, in my wallows of a self...

...proclaimed depression, that we are scabies on the planet earth and this is like course correction, right, you know? Yeah, that fucking earth is like I've had enough for you motherfuckers fucking up this shit for hundreds of years, I mean, and now you elect these cocks sucks all over, all over the fucking earth. It's not just even the United States, it's Brazil, these fucking conservative leaders that are just out of touch with reality and and how people live in our needs and their racist this evil evils St fucking and you heard it. You didn't hear it here first. You probably knew it first before I decend it on air, but they're just fucking evil cock suckers, and you know, earth is like enough is enough with you guys polluting me and shitting all over me like Shit. This is the immune system attacking us. Yeah, basically, now here's some fucking coronavirus. Okay, fucking take that. This is the plague. All you fucking Bible benders out there, fucking Maga two thousand and twenty. You know what will fucking this is? This is fucking like Biblical fucking Shit. I mean, think about it, right. Yeah, it's that. That's that's it's just crazy. It's crazy to me. Fuck, I'm gonna say it again. fucking cocks suck is my favorite swear of all time. is applicable to just about everybody, and I'm using it in abundance. fucking pieces a crap gabbage. Jeez, how D Atage, how'd I get off on this rant? What did you do to Stot this? This is your fault. We're just at the world. This fault. I'm ad at you. Yeah, it's because I didn't cheer you up. Yeah, you know, this is terrible. This whole thing is just gone fucking straight up downhill. Yeah, that even doesn't make sense. Straight up downhill. I can't even speak. I got to get the fuck out of here. No one wants to hear me fucking grown anymore. I'm a funny Duddy, that's what I am, a no good fucking funny duddy. Nate, you want a bitch about anything before we close the show out? No, I want to recommend that everybody watches like teletubbies or something to make you smile, because something colorful and bright, but that'll probably depress you even more. Oh, you know what, you always think, a little China. That'll cheer everyone up. Yes, your favorite movie. I like trouble and little China, and I do have a recommendation. Okay, is and I thought the first episode was did not do anything for me, but the series as a whole, I think is pure genius. Okay, is watchman? Who? Now, I've always been very strict on if the source material is good, leave it alone. Right, don't tread on it, because this is too easy to fuck up. Right, yeah, with you. It was. His name Damion Damon Lindelof right, they pronounce it. He was behind this. He's also behind the leftovers. Right. Yeah, he did this. He did watch yes, he did watch. Talked about him. We had an episode where we did a segment. There we go, talking about right, talking about more episode. See, we have fucking we're all over. The placer. Left over is my favorite TV show probably ever. And Yeah, he did watchmen and actually, Trent Resner, yeah, was behind some of the music on that and Haddicus Ross, right, yeah, yeah, that's trend. RESONERS COPE, writing partner for years now, and the music is fantastic, but is fucking pure genius. It's amazing. It's perfect for now. It's so relevant to what we are dealing with now in the social injustice has happening in the United States and all over the world and I can't give it my highest recommendation. And they honored the source material x while taking it in a whole new direction. That was just thrill ride. I I'd never wanted it to end. Wow. So you can watch teletubbies if you want, but I do suggest everybody out there, and if you've read the comic, even better. Yeah, because it's an absolute masterpiece. Alan the more Dave Gibbons was that the Zack Snyder movie was pretty faithful to the source material, except, I mean it left out some of the black girl that or whatever it is called the book, the right, h right, whatever the IT and changed a big factor of the ending.

But the spirit was there and everything else was pretty much almost shot for shot. Looked like the comic. I thought, you know, I thought they did a good job, but I don't know, it's been all. It's been while since I've read it, but I would love to check the series out. I was curious because I'd heard conflicting things. I'd heard good and bad things. But what you heard a seal? Huh? You heard bad things about it, is I was did. I don't remember specifics, but I just heard people making little cracks about it, like, oh, something sucks, swall Blah, blah, blah. At least it's not like the watchman series, you know. I heard little snarky things on. Well, yeah, whatever. It wasn't a black Pearl, by the way. It was the tails of the black crater. I know, but on black whack pearls, Johnny Depp, I know. But what was it? Tails of the black freighter. But freighter, that's right, the fritters, a Plat Fritter, yeah, Fritty, yes, as they yeah, the pirate thing going and in the movie. I didn't mind the movie, even despite the changes, but this doesn't deal with that. It deals with the comic. Okay, so, I mean he was even even more splendid and beautiful for that reason alone. But yeah, definitely fuck can check that out. It's not one of those feel good things. So if you are kind of like I was not happy with life and and what's going on. It's not going to cheer you up, but it's going to take you on a journey into a whole different universe that you're just going to want to stay in forever because it's just it's magnificent. So excellent, excellent, and I was trying to end the fucking show and then I started rant and Raven and every other fucking thing. So all right, let's just get the fuck out of here now. What do you say? So sounds good. All right. Well, I want to thank each and every one of you for tuning in and I have to say this episode putting up with me. I know this is a tough thing to do, but virtual hugs all around each and every fucking one of you. Can you feel me squeezing through your ear pieces or whatever you're listening on? I hope you can, because I think it's popped a muscle doing so. But I am Dave, that is nate, and this has been the selling out show's six.

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