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Episode 50 · 2 years ago

Ep.#50 Punk Rock Podcasting

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

We talk piss poor PPE's, the random stuff people use to cover their faces while out in public, Nate takes LSD during the lock down, make sequel suggestions in the form of Wayne's World 3 and Big Trouble in Little China 2, we wonder why people sing with or without accents, PLUS Nate's Note's takes a look at shooting for stardom in the 90's compared to now. How we've evolved from using Tascam 4 Track recorders, being in garage bands and passing out demo tapes to easily recording via our personal computers and posting content online.

 

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Okay, what is it? Gun Rack? A gun rack? A gun rack? I don't even own a gun, let alone many guns. That would necessitate an entire rack. What am I going to do with a gun rack? Welcome to the selling out show. You're excited, feeling. Example, what it does is beach isn't your brain chemically, and no ceat your happiest memory chemically, and then blocks on that emotion and releases it chemically, and then it keeps your happy, happy, hello. Hello, hello, and thank you for tuning in to the selling out show, where we screw up life at our leisure for your listening pleasure. I am one of your host David shows, and over here, reasonably distanced by my side, is my partner in crime, Nate Gore Zinski. Nate, how are you? Have you been flattening the curve? Like my curve is as flat as my white ass. Oh, my white, flat, Caucasian ass. Those playing. We want this curve, people. It's flat. It what aides want to our curve to look like my ass, not like beyonce's ass. That's you know, that's where we're going. Does she have a big dunca dunk, I haven't noticed. Yeah, her and I mean you could say Kim Kardashi and if you want to, maybe that's more more recognizable to the yeah, that one I'm familiar with. That's a AD chunk a Ham I've seen multiple times online. Beyonce, I can't really say I'm very familiar with her. Yeah, you know her, her under sure armor carriage thingy GIGGLI thing. There, I smack it. Wha, can rub it down? Oh No. So, anyway, I mentioned flattening the curve. Yes, and before we came on air today, you had a mask on, yeah, which I thought was very clever because it was actually crafted from a crown royal sack. Yeah, the little pouches, crown power. Thank you, the whole ass thing. If you didn't notice, we're actually talking about it, threw me for a loop. It threw you off? Yeah, it really did. I just things are just flying out of my mouth and so I couldn't really describe your mask properly. But yes, it was. It was fitted from a pouch. That's right. Yes, UM, carly, my significant other, her, her mother, is quite a talented seamstress. MMM, and she yea, she makes quilts and you know, we have a beach bag that she made for us, does all these nice things, makes clothes and things. But she has been obviously, in this time of the coronavirus, she's been fashioning a lot of cool masks to be worn right. And so, yeah, we had one made out of a crown royal bag. So it's very cool. First off, the name seem stress sound is dirty, sounds naughty, like you're a seamstress, but it's not. No, it's not. It only is to me, but in my line of work I've seen some interesting items used to cover people's faces and some notable things that I have come across over the last couple weeks. Was I saw a human being. Yeah, obviously wearing as all. Yeah, those, those fucking things are strange. WHO's wearing that? person was wearing a full beekeepers outfit. Nice, it is nice because for want, it does nothing to protect you. Nothing. Yeah, what is that doing? You still getting the whatever, the particles in your face, right. Yes, and imagine that person is a woman too. So she got she got up that morning. Yeah, she put an I mean this is a whole kitting kaboodle. This is not just the mask. This is not just the ail that hangs off the the safari hat she had the the know, the dungarees on or whatever, and the you know, the whole nine years, and I'm like wow, that that took some dedication. I saw this and what's at up? Maybe she knows something we don't. Maybe there's also a huge epidemic of poisonous bees coming that we don't know about and we should all be dawning. Yeah, Bee keepers, you outface with that something. UH, their coronavirus bees that coming and get us. You almost made me do a Dane Cook, which I fuck you bees. I see I did it anyway. Anybody Remember Dane Cook with? Whatever happened to that guy? I know he was huge for a while. Well, maybe you got over blown. Yeah, overblown. So maybe now he's living out the his you know, his life is a beekeeper. And I saw an elderly couple and both had masks on,...

...but they were like the cheap plastic mask you used to get with like a Ben Cooper Halloween costume. Yeah, I mean the flimsy kind that are held with a string in the back or elastic band, and I eat a little plastic chewbacca mask or something. Will they one was darth vader and the other one was a blue power arranger, of course, of course. And then I feel bad because they're rolled. And second they couldn't see through them very well, so when they were looking at items, they were lifting them back up off their face anyway, deserting the purpose, defeating the purpose. So there you go. So, you know, it's one of those things. Everybody wants to be safe. I get it. I want to be safe to but you still get to think about what you're doing and how you're doing it. So yeah, and you know, speaking a safe you're not a safe person. Well, it depends. I'm like, okay, what are you what are you referring to? I am alluding to the fact that I got a text from you, I believe, last week. Yeah, you know, I like here in front of your good pal of mine, and and you mentioned that you were, you know, partaken in a little LSD, a little excursion. Yes, excursion, and I'm like thinking, Geez, Louise, aren't we too old for that shit? What are you doing, man? Okay, well, here is what I have to say in my defense. HMM, our well, carly son, our little boy, our thirteen year old boy, has been a way. He's been we're not having them bounce back and forth from house to house. And so he's been at his father's for a few weeks. He was gone for a while. So I've had this acid in my freezer just sitting there for months and the hadn't done it and I've been afraid because, like you said, we're old and I've had made some questionable choices in my life. I was nervous to do acid because there's a lot of thinking and a lot of you can have a bad trip really easily if you thinking about the wrong things. Oh yeah, so, but okay. So here's what I noticed is that I'm like, this could be a perfect thing to do during the quarantine. You know, it's like, Oh, this could be fun, a way to pass the time, and it was in a good mood. I was alone car he was away for the night and working overnight and I, yeah, I took it and okay. So I had been nervous that when you trip it's kind of a commitment. It's not like you smoke a joint. You get a little stone, like you're in another place for several hours, like eight to twelve hours. Right. Yeah, I'm say, yeah, absolutely, but the thing I noticed is that as you get older your sense of time changes. So I was so nervous about this long commitment of like going on this excursion for hours and our dude, I've done all this time in jail. I'm old, like time goes a lot faster the older you get. So eight hours is really not a long time nowadays for me. So I was you know, and and I was right. I thought that took the acid and I was right. It really didn't feel like a really long time. But I had a lot of fun. I picked up a pen and some paper and drew some pictures like we used to when we were kids. Listen, I listened to about three or four to pesche mode albums, some of their older music, which you would worry might make you a little depressed, but it's there. Old stuff is pretty upbeat and dancy. So I had a lot of fun, man, and I will say if you are in a responsible place and are able to get some kind of Hallucina Gin, it's a really fun way to pass the time during this coronavirus quarantine. So it's got my seal of approval. You heard it here, firs. Just do if you have kids, if you don't have kids around and you know you're going to be safe, just go for it. That's haven. See, the key here was you said you had fun and it was a good trip, but imagine if it was at the time. Would not have flown by, yeah, as seamlessly seemstress as it did, you know, had you been freaking out a little bit. You know what I mean, if you saw like an egg in the refrigerator and you started thinking about the origins of life, it would have felt like a you know it, threeday trip. Right, right, I'm doodle in Garfield. Listen to to pesch mode. Here I go, you know. So it's I don't know, man, I don't think, even with your recommendation, and mind you, it has been many and many a moon's, Oh yeah, since I've ever dabbled in that shit, and that's something, guess, one narcotic I've sworn up and down I would never go back to, no matter what, because there's a few on my list that, hey, you know, if I was out and about and someone said, Hey, hey, you there guy, you want to try this, I might say yes, LSD is not on that list, no, sirreebop. Yeah, but anyway, we get a great show plan for you folks out there. We're going to talk about...

...some fun stuff, some movie sequels of our own, imagining some accents, and of course nate will have his ever prestigious award winning mind. You needs notes. What award did it win? Well, let's just the thing. You think of an award right now, nate. Let's just let's just hurry pass this subject and maybe people won't notice. You know, it's amazing to me how Hollywood just keeps going back to its old bag of tricks and we are chomping at the bit to suck on that teat. Yes, and you know what I'm saying. It's like what's old is new again and people are just starving for reunions and revivals. Take, for example, the new bill and Ted movie that's coming out. MMM, how long ago was the last bill and Ted Film? I want to say at least twenty years. Dude, it's two thousand and twenty. Bro It's probably thirty years at this point. It couldn't have been much later than one thousand nine hundred and ninety. Honestly, Bill and Ted's focus journey. I don't know. I guess I could look it up right now. Good, but that makes too much sense. I know we're not that clever. That would show we have some sort of preparation, which we don't. Yeah, we just kind of fucking you know, we just show up and talk. But yeah, I mean the point remains the same. Who is clamoring for this? Who desired this? The point where someone in a room in a suit and said this is a great fucking idea. Let's call Keanu Reeves, let's call bill s Preston, esquirelexy winter. there. You know, who's heard from him in a while? I mean he hasn't touch at least Canto Reeves has been very visible, you know, ted has has kept to his his image alive. Bill, on the other hand, has been kind of behind the scenes. He's produced some documentaries. I guess he's remember that a lot. It's very internet savvy, from what I understand. That's nice, as it's much sad, much better than me. But he had that movie and I want to say it came out yesterday, but it was probably again fifteen years ago. That movie freaked Oh my God. Yeah, that was probably one thousand nine hundred and ninety one hundred and ninety twosh I remember I had gibby Haynes in it from the Butthole surphers now was a bit but still I was like, oh, hey, look as the dude from bill and Ted's all right, so he master tea as the bearded woman. There you go, you know, but he did something. But now again they're back. But anyway, this whole thing made me start wondering, is there a movie franchise out there that didn't get a sequel? Maybe had a sequel, didn't get apart three or something that you could possibly see happening now in two thousand and twenty? Che's man. That's that's interesting because as a rule I'm pretty against all this nostalgia porn all this bringing back the old shed. I'm almost disappointed that they're making a new bill and Ted, as much as it kind of excites me, and we've spoken about this before, where, yeah, I feel like the new ideas are getting more and more rare as we as we progress through life. The everything is just hey, let's make a new ghostbusters, let's finally make us sequel to the thing or a prequel. They did that a few years ago. But since you're asking, Dave, yes, I ams we're having a little fun here. Sure, Um, I'm trying to think, man, I the closest I can come is my favorite movie of all time, I've mentioned on the show yes or is Kurt Russell's big trouble little China or John Carpenter's Big droll little China, starring Kurt Russell? If I want to get particular, okay yet. So get it, get it done, get particular. So spoiler alert everyone. If you haven't seen this one thousand nine hundred and eighty seven picture, which is a great movie, and if you haven't seen it, shame on you. It kind of ends with this I don't know how to put it. It ends with this little tag at the end where where Jack Burton has played by Kurt Russell, everything is fine, he's killed the evil sorcerer and things are back to normal and he's riding in his trailer truck and the movie kind of pans at the end. The camera pans to the back of his trailer truck and you see that this monster that was earlier in the movie like popped up in the movie. He is has tag belong and as hitch to ride on this truck. UNBEKNOWNST to Kurt Russell and is roaring, and that's how the movie ends, with this monster kind of roaring in the back of the truck. Right, that invites it. That's death. Yeah, I mean, come on, that right there is like hey, you know, that was almost like now I everything has to have a post credit scene. Hm, that was a pretty post credit scene. Post credit scene, right, Kay, exactly. I was a little tag. It was a little thing on the end and and so I was thinking that that would be my first the first thing that POPs up into my...

...mind about making a sequel. But now that I think about it, it's like it's just this little monster was like a bit part in the movie. Wasn't like some big monster that way, you know, some big, right masterly creature. So it basically he probably just pull over, have to fight this monster and it would beat over with. But but maybe we could get creative and maybe the sequel would be like, you know, now that this sorcerer is dead, the monster really doesn't have anywhere to go, so he kind of hitched a ride on Kurt Russell's truck. Kurt Russell pulls over and he's like what the fuck this monster? Maybe the monsters like hey, dude, listen, listen, I got no real problem with you. You know, David Lopan, the sorcerer, was kind of you know, he was an asshole. Now that he's gone, I really have now where to go. Do you think we can crash together? Maybe we can make it into like a Sitcom and they could be like putting like the odd couple or, you know, like perfect strangers or something. H Yeah, you know, the the Wacky hijinks of Kurt Russell in this this monster in the yeah, so maybe that's my idea. What do you what do you have for times thinking? It's like, Hey, listen, Jack before you for you kill me, I'm a free agent. Dude. What do you say? We we shack up, get a place together, share the rent, split some groceries. Huh, makes you know? Started Band? Start a band, you know, hijinks and sue coming this fall on ABC. That's a pretty good start. A business, your business, whatever. You know, fall in love, have children, sac no, no for me. Something this I've been laying awake at night thinking about. Was Everybody Love Wayne's world? Right? Sure, now, Wayne's world did get a sequel, so I did a little stat checking, which I really do we just taught? I mentioned earlier when we're very unprepared here. But Wayne's world, when it came out in one thousand nineteen ninety two, the budget for the film was twenty million bucks. Was No chump change to folks like me and you, but still in Hollywood that's us a drop in the well as far as making a movie goes. And it made a hundred and eighty three point one million. So, Lord, you got that right, cash cow, baby, there's a lot of fucking money in the till now, Wing Shure, I'm glad I don't have to insert that clip through yourself. But yeah, so of course they rush back to make Wayne's world too. Now, waynes world to came out at the tail end of one thousand nineteen ninety three with a budget double of the original of forty million dollars. Problem is it only made forty eight million. Oh Oh gee, he's so quite a consider that a flop, even though even though they got some money. They will consider that a flop. Oh Yeah, of course, you know. For me or you it's like Hey, well, you're still made eight million on your forty million. So come on, I mean money well, Smith, but no, that for them. That's no, that's a failure. Sure, and to be fair, that part two was kind of a letdown. I mean it was it was big. They did the whole super concert, like a Lallapalooza type idea. That was the plot of the movie. So there were more cameos by famous musicians and all this. They without making it bigger and brighter and with more cameos, it would do better. And unfortunately it was just kind of and I don't know, did it lacked the novelty of the original. So that's probably why it suffered. And a lot of a lot of Mike Myers movies kind of ended up like yeah, he did awesome powers and a few of those were great, but some of his other movies not so much. Well, the formula of Guru remains the same. Sure, you know what I mean. It's like Wayn's world, both of them. He's dating Cassandra, yeah, and some you know, rich fucking Schlob is coming to take her away and he's going to have some creative way to not only be a success and not be fucking dumb old Wayne, but, you know, maintain friendships and his relationship with Cassandra. Yeah, he had. Yeah, I mean just brought up Austin powers. It's all the same fucking Shit, true, but still you would think, or I would have thought as a kid. You know, where's Wayne's world three? I wouldn't have never considered the you know, the the whole thing with the budgetary concerns and about making money. I just had was a funny movie. Why wouldn't you make number three MM? So how would we make that now? And I was thinking, what would have happened to these fucking jokers? Where would Wayne Campbell and garth be now? I was thinking, you know, Cassandra was a fine piece of tail. There's no way in Hell Wayne would have literally held on to it for this many years. But let's say fucked up somewhere. It's absolutely but let's say he stay with it for a bit, maybe they had a kid or something like that. But she realized what kind of fucking Schmucky is. She left him and now here. He is back in his hometown and he's the manager of the stand mikeyed, his donut shop that he used to Break Aurora, Illinois, yes, in Aurora. So he's kind of like washed out and all the you know, the weight of Li Life is gotten down on him. He's got child support payments or something. I...

...don't fucking know, but the light, the luster, it's all fucking gone. Poor Wayne. Well, on contrast, Garth was quite successful. He had then becoming a tech whiz and went out to silicon valley, but unfortunately for him he had a really bad idea and with it idea came a crash of his career. I was thinking maybe he came up with an APP called smell a smoothie. We're here, smell as smooth smell a smoothie, where he's like, you know, typical garth fashion, like, imagine if your phone could smell like a banana. WHOO, yeah, exactly, know something like that. So they've been separated for years and years, but now they reconnect because they both basically, you know, live in life on skid row. Baby. Yeah, so what in the dumps together, down in the dumps together, reunited, and what would be the most natural thing for anybody of their ilk to do in this age? HMM, you don't need public access anymore. You're starting a youtube channel, baby, perfect waynes world is bad boy. I'm a mom. All right, what do you think? Make it modern. Yeah, two thousand and twenty waynes world, Bro Yeah, he's this sounds like us man guys, and it up down in the dumps and start some Internet show together, although we didn't have the success they did in the beginning. You know, no, no, I mean Geez Louise, but still, I you know, I think that would my concept sucks. Okay, I'm just spitballing here, but still a way to bring back waynes world man, that's not too bad. I think that's something they should consider and I'm not kidding. I think that can make a few bucks. Yeah, probably more than forty eight million. HMM. You know, realistically they'd want to make it the female Wayne and Garth, like they did with ghostbusters somehow. Hey, you know, people shit on that one. I didn't mind it. Yeah, I didn't think it was that bad of a film. I just don't like Leslie Jones. Yeah, I don't know, I I almost thought she was funnier than most of them in it. Really. I know she's annoying and can be a little loud and in your face, but to be honest, I thought, I don't know, I don't want to get all into ghostbusters. Two Thousand and sixteen. But I will say that occasionally it seems like they're doing it just to do it. It's like, I guess you just and you you have the idea, let's bring this back. It could be a huge success, but you know, at least wait until you got a a great story. To me it just seemed like the story was kind of lacking. I guess the style of comedy is just different, though. So maybe that's my problem, is that I do enjoy modern comedy and modern and Saturday night live changes each time they get a cast change, and a lot of those actors on that movie were from Saturday night live. Obviously three of the four, I believe, of the the leads in the two thousand and sixteen. Yeah, it was really yea Melissa McCarthy not being the right cast member. Right, right. So it's just that that style of comedy is different. I mean all the little it's just I don't know. That's and I get you. I get you, okay, is get frustrated with it. For anybody who hasn't heard our last episode, we talked about rebooting, just special effects in the movie. You keep the cast intact, and we actually mentioned that Labyrinth was a movie that deserves to remain untouched, untouched for those who think it's sacrilegship they remake a movie. Okay, just to kind of defend this, if they made remade labyrinth now, would I be all going home on it? No, what, I sit on the Internet all day and just fucking bitch about it either. No, you know what I mean, when I watch it. Yeah, maybe, and that's the thing is like, okay, like you just mentioned, it needs a better script. There were fucking how many people in a room laughing their asses off and that ghost by subscript thing and they were putting pure fucking gold on Cellu Lloyd. You know what I mean? Yeah, so I guess it's just a matter of taste or what it is. It's just your right. Now you kind of get our go throw your hands and being go, well, you know what, it's not my money they're making it with and if you don't like it, it's not my money they're going to get for. Watch it. Exactly. Know you're right, and I and I I'm just more doing it out of frustration and I guess I do get a little stupid in loud in my my anger towards that type of shit but I'm just I do honestly get frustrated thinking that a lot of the best ideas for films that come out end up being relegated to indie movies or stuff that doesn't get as popular, and instead you get retreads of proven properties, like Ghostbusters, like you know, whatever it is there remy they remake the twenty one jump stream movies, for Christ say, you know, the show into movies and it's just Charlie's angels, like all of these things that come back. You know, it's just crazy. But even more than once...

I think they just redid Charlie's angels. Yeah, again. Yeah, you're right. Or Batman, take take any superhero move on, you know. I mean over bottom, superhero movies make a little more sense because the comics are still going. There an ongoing thing. So the characters change in the comics, and I know they've done every time they do a spider man movie. It seems like until recently they've redone the origins and everything, and and Batman to so that gets a little old. But the films themselves, I understand. You can make a new one because the stories change and different writers write different comics, you know. So you can make different movies, but it's when it's something that just seems like a blatant cash cow, like, Hey, remember this, cash in on that, and because you know it, you're familiar with it already and we know it's going to make money, and aren't you excited to see it? Yeah, that's right. Let's get ready for fast times at Bridgemont high part two. My God, yeah, you know. Listen, let's leave that to the listenership of our fine program here. If you have any opinions on this or if you know what, if you like nate's pitch for big trouble in little China to or maybe you hated my pitch for Wayne's world three, which I kind of hate now in retrospect as well, drop us a line, contact us and guess what, it is easy. You can find us on our socials at selling out show or send us an email selling out show at gmailcom. And guess what, my plugs aren't done, because this is how good I am. I also want to thank these sponsors of this here. Show Northland Vapor that you can find it northland vaporcom, with retail locations in Minnesota and North Dakota. Listen, this is where I get my vape juice, my supplies. I Love Them. They're great crew of people over there at Northland Vapor. Did I mentioned their website night? Um, if you did, I didn't hear. It's go for the son of a bitch. You gonna back me up on this? Northland vaporcom. I'll say it twice because it is so nice. Northland vaporcom. Go check them out if you are vapor because their prices are great, their products are great. All the e liquids are dike tone and artificial sweetener free, which is important stuff because, unlike most people, unlike most other vapor companies, really they care about what you are putting in your body and they are selling responsibly. So definitely check them out. Nate, you love CBD. I love CBD. Hell, I'm on CBD Right now. That's right me to okay, see that, what a quaky naker. We both taken CBD before we record the show. So if you are new to the CBD or maybe you're a longtime user, check out Alpine Hempcom, one stop shop for anything you can imagine that CBD related. TINCTURES, oils, caps, stiles, gummies, pet products, coffees, teas, my tongue is going to fall out of my face because they have so much stuff to choose from. Plus, don't forget with northland vapor and Alpine hemp, if you use code selling out nineteen at check out, you will save nineteen percent off your entire order. Good deal, good stuff. Name drop us on that one. Last but not least, I got to thank spunk lube. I just like saying their name with a little extra flare because fun. Yeah, smunk Loube, say will flare because I don't care. I'll slap it on here, I'll slap it on there, but I mean, what else can I say, if you've ever listened to our show before, about how much I like spunk Loub if it wasn't for that stuff, I'd never get late. You kidding, Meny, what do you think about spunk Loube? You been using it is so listen. Yeah, spunklub is fantastic, man, it keeps things moving nice and smoothly. Without getting too graphic, because I do have family that listens to this show and probably don't want to hear too much about my my. Oh whoa bedrooms and not nate uses. It is hair GEL. That's right. I I use it to make sure if I'm wearing a ring that's too tight, I can get it off. Hey, you know what. It works for that, but because I don't give a fuck. You, sticky Whoha in the Heh during the Wii Wah, and before you know it, everything's Woo Woo. Guess what? Spunk loube makes it better. It's the best Loube on the market. People's affordable is great. So, unlike the little tagline I use for nate, it is in fact award winning lubricant use by professionals in the adult film industry. And guess what? Why not? You, what are you waiting for? Check out spunk lubecom today and spice up your love life with spunk. Dude. I think about accents the other day yes and how we talked about British people. You think a British accent or a French accent or this or that, and it's one thing if someone from another country that speaks a different language...

...and they still have some remnant of the way they say things. I'm not talking about those kind of accents. I'm talking about English speaking countries. We would say British accent Australian accent, but they don't think they have accents. They call it like an American right. Yeah, sure, I was thinking of that because he I'll hear people say the term I put on an American accent and I thought about that. I'm like, okay, so if Americans have an accent, then why is it that when British singers record music, the accent comes off and they sing just normal? Is it that they're putting on an American accent to sing, or is it just the fact that when you sing you just pronounce things normally, which is without a British actually saying normal, like we're we're normal, we are the right way to speak. motherfucker. Fuck, I sound like Donald Trump. I'm like America first snow, no, no, you never sound like that. I don't mean that, obviously I'm being facetist, but it's just it weirds me out. Why is it that when you hear British people singing, usually the accent comes off, and I know there are exceptions. If you get some snotty johnny rotten look like real, call me actually singers like things like that. The clash right, but uh, you know, but you definitely hear a change. Yeah, and you know, kind of to jump into this and preface what we're talking about to with, if anybody's ever interested, we make fun of our own accents, or at least we did one of our path shows. So definitely check out our archives to hear US knock the Massachusetts accent, which I kind of have really, really bad. But yeah, but David Bowie was kind of famously known for a guy who sang with the British his normal accent or his normal way of speaking, like you mentioned the class Johnny Rotten. But yeah, I mean this, for everyone that we can name there's another handfuld that just don't use it when they sing. So that is an interesting little thing and now I think I'm going to notice it more than ever because you brought it up. Now that we're pointing it out, I was gonna say Adele. Adele's someone who I think is a fantastic vocalist. Sure, it's British and I can't hear an accent when she sings. That's it. That's exactly what I'm on your moment. But one thing I was going to bring up is that in the S, the early s, the band ministry Al Jurgenson, the famed head of ministry, WHO's this wild party animal and is now this like metal head. Ministries pretty much like an electronic metal band at this point, but they're early material was just like synth pop. He started as this synth heavy almost American topetch mode sort of bands, and he actually being American, but he would sing with a British accent because he thought it made him sound more fashionable for that style of music. So he actually put on a fake British accent. So I guess it works both ways. Whatever specialable. Maybe American accents are just fashionable, so that's what people sing in. I don't know. I maybe it's one of those things where the record companies like hey, you know, you got a fucking ditch at accent if you want worldwide appeal, you know, in the made up I really don't know. That's again that's a great question. Like where does it go? What happened there? Is it a natural thing or is it a force thing? I don't know, like I'm trying to think right now. I'm racking my brain a little bit. What's a word with a new England accent, like in a song? Like if I was going to sing it Potty, like party. Likes to party all the time. Party, Oh the time, I guess. They almost say, yeah, but I'm saying it potty. I'm not saying party right as saying so you're still singing with the New England accent. Well, yeah, thanks to Eddie Murphy. So I don't by the way, I just pulled that right out of my ass. I deserve points for Paul Matt Song Out of nowhere. That's not a fit. Air Boom like a Quif he did that with Rick James. Yes, Eddie Murphy and Rick James. Can we think of another song that? Baby, you can drave my car. See, I still it's just like that. The art isn't isn't hard, it just doesn't come out. So maybe maybe people who sing all have a New England accent. Maybe that's the answer. That's where it comes from. We're correct. Yeah, we're the right ones. We're normal, normal, don't you forget it. We are the normal folks. Build a fucking wall around the recording studio. Dust up your lps. It's time for nate. No, no, back in the ancient, basically prehistoric, year of one thousand nine hundred and ninety one. I received my first bass guitar and amp as a super generous birthday gift from my parents. I was twelve years old and a couple friends and I were...

...trying to start a band. Jay had a guitar and Jerry had a drum. Kid He also had a giant practice area in his basement and some very tolerant parents. We practice together a few times a week and I still member the feeling of walking down those stairs and the musty smell of the basement with its moldy, threadbare carpet. We didn't end up writing a ton of music. We were young and inexperienced and mostly it was just a lot of fun to crank up the volume and the distortion and create some noise. Nirvana was the new big thing, so we were psyched to just be able to make some loud and squelchy feedback. Like Kurt Cobain, we tried learning a cover song or two, but mostly we wanted to create something new. As I said, our total output wasn't super prolific, but we did end up piecing together a few riffs occasionally and considered them songs. When it came time to record these tunes, such as they were. We started the way anyone in our situation would. We set up a tape recorder or boom box and tried to position it centrally to capture all the instruments somewhat audibly. It was a serviceable method, but eventually we learned about multi track recording and one of US purchased a task scam for track Porta studio tape recorder. The multitrack recorder was once the essential device for any young musician recording at home. You recorded onto regular cassette tapes, but you could record one instrument on track one, rewind the tape switch to the next track and record the next instrument, and on and on. It was basically just an extremely paired down version of what they had at professional studios, where you could potentially record dozens of layerable tracks. Everything was pretty much tape back then, the age of analog recording. Of course, once you had a decent multitrackt recording of your band, what did you do with it? When we were kids, we usually would just listen to it ourselves and maybe show our friends, but for those trying to self promote, it was a real grind. You either played shows and sold the tapes there, or you could bring a load of copies to a bigger concert and try to unload them to people in the crowd, often just giving them away for free to get your shit out there self. Promotion in recording were both a lot more work back in those days, which is why the dream of all young bands back then was to get signed to a record label and have some established representation to get you some much needed exposure and to supply you with the funds to book a decent studio and a producer engineer to record polished, professional sounding material. But around the turn of the century, technology basically shattered the recording industry as we knew it. Things completely changed because of the Internet and recording software. This has been a double edged sword for artists, I mean not for the record companies. The record companies just got fucked more or less, and that feels kind of gratifying for some, considering the record companies were always the gatekeepers who could kind of make or break an artist, depending on whether they decided to invest in and promote them. For the artist, things have been a little more interesting. For the most part. Gone are the days of the Rock Star millionaire with the six or seven figure record contracts with file sharing and streaming services. Bands aren't making money off their records anymore. A band has to tour their asses off and play tons of shows if they really want to succeed. That and by selling merch like shirts and shit, either at those shows or online. The recorded music may sell some copies, but in a lot of cases it's more serving as a promotional product to get people to see the band live. Now, while the established bands of yester year maybe feeling a drop in their cash flow compared to the old days, and young kids who dream of becoming wildly rich rock stars are perhaps less common. The big advantage to all of this change is that the playing field has been leveled quite a bit for those musicians just starting out and wanting to get their shit out there. While I think act wistfully on my days of recording on that old four track recorder, I must say it's pretty awesome living in a time when there are professional grade music production and recording software options that, while maybe a bit pricey, are definitely accessible to a home recording...

...artist, and with a bit of practice using said software, you can come out with a finished product that sounds pretty damn professional shit, Damon albarns project gorilla's produced one album completely on an ipad about a decade back. So while it's hard to beat a good old fashioned studio with a seasoned producer, it's not necessarily a requirement for any self respecting band anymore. And of course, the World Wide Web lends itself to much easier distribution of one's music. Once it is recorded. You don't have to hand out demo tapes to people who may or may not give it a listen before throwing it away. Now there are sites like band camp or Soundcloud onto which you can upload your stuff. And yes, of course there's a huge chance that your music will just sit there on those sites and nobody will hear it. But the point is that once you upload it, it's literally accessible to anyone. How you promote it and get people to check it out is up to you, but at least it's out there to be heard, and that alone is a beautiful thing for many an upandcoming young artist shit. A lot of modern young pop singers and gag mumble rappers that are now huge stars recorded their stuff at home and posted it online just like that. People like post Malone and even billy Eilish, who are on top of the musical world right now, winning grammys and everything produced, at least their early hits, just like that on their computer in their room. I'm an old fogy now. I have some music on soundcloud and, like I've mentioned, I play shows with some friends when not on corona quarantine. But if we had this kind of technology back when I was a young person cranking out tunes with my friends, I wonder how much differently things would have turned out, because while I still love making music, I'm just not quite as motivated as I once was, and that's a shame because, like in so many other aspects of life, technology has really changed the game and made my old labor of love into a much more streamlined experience. Now the issue has gone from it being too hard to get your shit out there to it maybe being too easy. Think about it. With the necessary equipment so readily available to everyone, the market is pretty oversaturated with quote unquote, talent, or at least least with content, so the problem becomes a matter of getting lost in the endless ocean of material being released onto the Internet. I guess the whole point is that while so much has changed tech wise, the odds of blowing up and becoming some kind of Rock Star Remain Pretty Far fetched. It's just for different reasons. Now, Dude, you remember the old days before exactly. I am a spilled my fucking coffee when you brought that up, because I remember my task cam for a track and it was the greatest gift I'd ever received in my life. Well, second to maybe Castle Gray Skull, and I'm not kidding, because back then in the s, when you were an aspiring musician, that was fucking high end shit. Recording on a cassette right, oh my God, that was the best. That brings back so many fawn happy memories just sitting in the room me, you our friend Floyd, recording stuff on that for track man, and we thought we were fucking rock stars. And, to be honest with you, we came up with a lot of innovative stuff at that time experimenting with that equipment. We definitely got its use out of it. You know, we got our money's worth. We we found ways to squeeze out as much creativity out of the Shit we could afford. You know, yeah, yeah, totally in my mom gave me that it was secondhand to it wasn't brand new. Yeah, she bought it from my uncle, was also a musician, and boy, Oh that was that was so cool. But the funny thing is, as with any form of technology, no matter how much you love something, you are part of making that obsolete. Right, because even as our band evolved, you and Floyd, we're getting into Ableton and other online software resources. Sure, you know, ditch in the old task cam, leaving a layer and dust on the son of a bitch. Yeah, and this is this is no lie. I honestly wish I still had it, or one, Huh, because I would fuck around with it with a cassette and all. I would still dabble by using that. And I mean, listen, I can do a lot of this shit, obviously, because we have a online radio program right here on my computer. Sure, but there's just something about it, you know what I mean, to get your hands on that fucking piece of gear. Yeah, and just fuck around you...

...all man that. That's that would be something special. So if anybody really ever wants to make me happy, go out and find me a task cam for track and hopefully a bunch of memorex fucking blank tape, because that's that's whither to find that. That right, that'd be even, maybe even tougher than finding that. So boy that, like I said, I almost fucking lost my shit. There's going, Oh, squee joy, happiness, Oh baby, N Times of change. But we did have a lot of fun with it and and I I am blown away by what you can do on some software like Ableton and, of course, this pro tools, which dude people you like, I've been talking about De peesh mode on and off on this episode. They use Ableton, especially when they perform live. They use it for all kinds of shit and it's it's professional grade equipment, but people like you and I can use it. That's the thing. It's these barriers are kind of broken down. As like I said, as long as you get enough practice where you know what you're doing with the software, you can come out with some professional sounding shit. And so yeah, man, it's just it's just weird, because the dream of becoming that rock star, man, it's not like it was. You don't it's not like you become some millionaire because somebody hears your shit and signs you to a label. It's hard, man. It's hard to make a living in these artists, especially as you get older. Touring non stop becomes kind of a drag when you're like our age and you got to stay in hotels every night or fucking you know, driving across whatever the country or across states to do it. It's men. You hear about bands that are still doing it, like we've mentioned clutch in the past. We both love clutch and those guys are still grinding. They talk about how they to or non stop. They actually just had to reschedule their current tour because of this coronavirus quarantine bullshit. But that's the point is they're still doing it. The still coming out with music, going out and playing in the IT's like a traveling carnival coming to town, man. It's just how you live. It's like a Carne lifestyle. Yeah, they're got to live in the sea, you know. I mean that the ship sails out and they never want to return to port. Sure, but I think it is interesting that you brought up the fact that you know, it is so much easier now and it is kind of a shame because anybody can really achieve really high quality sound and put it online for the world to hear. Relatively easy. While back then you had to buy the gear, okay, and when you did receive that gear, that forward track. You like, this is my ticket. Yeah, this is how it begins. They're going to write my story about how I became a successful musician, and it all starts with this fucking thing right here. I dropped to no, four hundred dollars on yeah, and again now it's well, really inexpensive. Actually, remember less claypool again many moons ago, discussing home recording. Oh yeah, yeah, and he've been said like now all this shit is that your fingertips. What's going to happen? You know, and because any novice can just kind of whip something up and go with it and, like you mentioned, just because you have it. Obviously, in our cases it didn't lead to success, right, but it's almost like it's kind of parallel it to something social media, where now everybody has a way to speak to the world they think their opinion or their you know, thoughts are clever or funny or more so than somebody else and that they're important. Yeah, if I say something Goofy Online, I'm going to get eightzero likes and someone's going to notice me. And fucking give me a show on Netflix or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, you know, the dreams just fucking create these, these ripples in the wet sand of life that watch it flows down. It makes you believe you can achieve things that are really you just fucking can't just Mirage. What else are we going to bring up for this random Oh, it's morning. Do your ideas the morning do on your soul and your mind, the forest of your psyche. So getting pretty yeah, pretty hippy dippy here, brother, and I I am. Yeah, you got it now, I must now Moss motherfucking take. But yeah, it is just wild now, how just everything is at our fingertips. It's just so fucking easy to produce things. And I believe it was even last episode, maybe the one before. We're talking about content creation right and I was like, yeah, fuck them, fuck everybody. Use a content creator, even though I am, you know, one of myself. This is content right here, this is content. We are creating something for you to digest and enjoy and we like bringing it to you. But absolutely, yeah, it's the the fucking the super highway is clogged and traffic is at an all time high. It's insane. Yeah, by everybody thinking that they can do something well and sometimes where they can't. And I hope that we are in fact putting on an entertaining program you people out there. But who knows, someone else might it listening to go all these fucking people and junk. These people suck.

They should stop doing what they're doing fucking right now. But you know, it's great. Let's say we let our dreams die. Already gone, they're dead. Smile has become just a hobby at this point. That's why I call it. You know, get a few bucks from playing live shows, but I'm not dreaming of being some rock star. I do it because I enjoy it and, like I said, I get some money, I get a free meal, usually in some free beers when I play, which is a lot of fun. It's a good night out, it's something to do. It really is a lot of fun. So yeah, but the dream has changed a little bit, but I still enjoy doing it, man. So the one dream has died, but I would say it's just kind of changed a little bit. It's on life supply dig think. I'm just saying our aspirations are relative to you know what, the fucking is lost on. I had a thought, I lost it. It's gone. It's gone. But basically I'm just saying we're like punk rock podcasters, right. We it's like we're not looking for fame or success or to have a little blur written about us in a fucking newspaper magazine or something. It's like we just do it because we like to do it. That's right, you know what I mean. While there's plenty of people out there who think, Oh, I'm gonna start a podcast, now I'm going to become fucking hot shit. Yeah, and you know, you, you know something else. That what? What? While we're talking about something completely different, Bill and Ted's focus journey was released in one thousand nine hundred and ninety one. Oh, you looked it up. That's that's called a call back, Ladies and gentlemen. But yeah, see, you're a pro. You're a motherfucking pro. And, keeping with that theme, I think it's time we end the fucking show, which is called a an outtro. Yes, do an outro there, buddy, because you come up with the facts like that. That was a sign, an indicator that we should get the fuck out of here, man. So listen, I want to thank each and every one of you for taking the time to listen to our humble little program virtual hugs all around. Can you feel it? That is me squeezing the life out of your fucking corona written bodies. I am Dave. That is nate, and this has been the selling out show piece.

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