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Episode 49 · 1 year ago

Ep.#49 Everything's Ruined

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Dave gives us the details on working in a supermarket during the coronavirus crisis, on "CGI or Die" we decide if Gremlins, Mac and Me, or Labyrinth could benefit from a special effects spruce up, plus Nate's Notes explores the styles inspired by musical genres.

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My kids, it's me Ronald McDonald andI'm on the set of my very first motion picture. Ever it's a movie called Macand me- and I want to introduce you to welcome to the selling out show R feereowhat it does- is breaches andewo brain chenically, O Keedyor, happiest memory, chenically n Lockon,that emotion, preased it chemically and then ithappy Happyhello, hello, hello,and thank you for tuning into the selling out show where we screw up lifeat our leisure. For Your listening pleasure, I am one of your host DavidShilzs and over here by my side, but carefully socially distanced is mypartner in crime, Nat, Gorzensky nate. How are Ya? I'm all right, I'm keepingeveryone out a at a six foot distance. You know how about you. Youe got a big?U Wingspan, there you're a Tall Ang, my wingspin's, about six feet, so I justKinda I don't know. Well, I guess that's both arms, so I could lay downin my feet, touching you and I'd still be like safe yeah, some breathing inyour shit, this yea real MSH yeah. This would be a great time to be in a bodycast, so your arms would be fully extended and you'd be like keep awayfrom me. Mother fecker stay away, I suppose, my God, I'm I stued. I need a body cast,I'm exhausted. I need to get away you overworked. I am overworked. I amUNDERP, I'm an essential worker. Okay, yeah. I just learned this. I just foundthis out HM. This is news to me and I think news to any other retail workeron the face of the Ar it's like a ego boost for you Ho far from an Eago boos,more like a a big fist in your asshole, no Lub. Just you know rocky Belboa likePunchin the meat and sead he's punching your your little brown eye. You know, but no, I I work. I'm a manager in asupermarket and I've. I've always tried to be the man behind the curtain whenit comes to our show. I I I talk about you know my life and stuff, prettypretty vaguel. Well, not vaguely. I mean a very no you're open, but butyour occupation, I've always noticed. You've kind of kept again you've keptit close to the vest. Yes yeah, that's what I was trying to say is I try tothink of my life is an open book, but some things I do keep more private. Iguess, and one of which is my when I do have it my employment. So when thislittle job came along and I was offered this Gig to uh manage in a grocerystore, I I thought this is easy. What could go wrong? Well welcome to the ageof Corona Yeah. Everyone else gets a little break in this and that, but youyou have to be working where you're facing all of them too they're all likeyou're you're, dealing with all them, because everyone has to go, get foodand so yeah, yeah you're, seeing all the ones that aren't at work. Yeah well, humans. I've discovered ajust filthy, fucking animals, but you know what I'm actually going to disputeyour claim that everybody gets a break Oka and the reason why I say this isbecause if you are a single mother in Osh cash and you can't work- and yougot two or three kids right now- is the most stressful time in your life,because you don't know when the money's coming, if you can ever go back to workare, are your landlord is going to kick you out on your fucking ass or you canbe on the street with your kids, you? So you know on the surface, if you're awealthy affluent human being, this must be fucking fantastic, you know, AH,well, I don't have to go anywhere ring. My little bell got a son Ing me, myfucking Soufle, you know o whatever, I'm just that made no sense whatsoever,but you know that's my mo, but you get what I'm trying to say. Of course,these celebrities in rich caxsuck is in politicians Fuckin, nobody everrealizes. You know this line, kill the body andthe head will do. Of course, yeah y lie from an O faith in the Morson, but it'sYash, but it's just a concept. That's been around for a long time, althoughusually it's the the other way around. It's killed ahead, and I thought youknow like they say. G, the head of this whole organization or whatever theorganization dies like kill in Ha head vampire. You know, but but whatever yeakill the body and the headwill diis the Fatho more song lyric, and I bring thatup because with nobody able to work and...

...all these jobs that we take for granteda lot of 'em. I mean not mine, of course, because I'm essential, but you know what I mean:Teachers or accountants. I mean you name in anykind of fucking job. On the face of the earth everybody's being told to shelterat home, stay inside nd, you can't go to work and we need those people forsociety to function yeah. So all these mother fuckers living upon top of the hill. As I just mentioned earlier, celebrities, politicians Wel,have you without us they're nothing mean no. That's e fect. I manthat's why?I say: Kill the body and the head will die. I hear what you mean, you know a Imean or eventually maybe the body will kill the head. You know it'I just meanin this case, it's like we have. The majority of the population is like, yes,is struggling at this point and it's the again the one percent that alwaysends up being OK and like yeah they're talking about you know it was, it'salways been bail out the the banks, the whole too big to fail thing back in theday. You know right, that's always the ones that need the least are gettingthe bailouts and again the Republicans were trying to sneak that in. I saw allthese means on facebook, about people saying the Libtar Democrats refused tosign a bill that gave Americans their thousand dollar stimulas or whateverthey're calling at this time the thousand dollar bail out. You know forindividuals, and it's like yeah, but they're- not mentioning in these littlemeans that they're reposting, that the reason dens didn't sign. It was becausethe the Republicans were trying to sneak in all this Shid abut like again:dfunding planned parenthood like they're, always trying to do and rigtalso they're, trying to keep this slush fund for huge companies for a billiondollar come. This was like hundreds of billions of dollars in this fund thatwas supposed to be dulled out pretty much by Stevemanuchin alone, liketrumps, whatever secretary, whatever treasury, of whatever what is hissecretary of the Treasury? No, I just call hem the T, Squa Wal, just a bunchof fucking twatch that'but anyway. That's my point. Is it's just it's it'snonsense and again they're trying to use them as an excuse to to bail outthe rich people and not really care about the the rest. You know so here'san idea how about this? You know here's some common sense, politican, O Ya.Let's make a bill. Okay and the buildirs says one fucking thing. Everyresident in this country is a check for two grand OKASO. If you are Jef Bizos,you get two grand right. If you are David Shelz, the host of the excellentpodcast known as a selling out show you get too grant okay. Now, let's passthat and then you guys can go in fucking haggle over, like you, said theslush funds, the bailouts everything else and d. What have you but let'stake care of our citizens first or you know what anybody who's on Americansoil- and he heard me say in I don't care if you're N, a legal immigrant ornot, if you are here, get a mother, fucking check, Tuen them a check. Weall fucking need it B. politicians be leaders, stop being rotten self servingcock suckers, I'm with you and you know what speaking Os self serving cocksuckers and I'm talking to all the listeners out there you're all filthy,they're, all gross. I got to deal with you, sons and bitches every fucking day,I'm trying to do my job and even as a manager, I have to be ou on the floor.Yeah Salno time you might be an arms distance wit, just being a manageer.Some would think. No, no, because right now it's all hands on deck, so I don'tget to sit in an office behind the computer and send the peons out tostock he the floor. No, I got to go out there and do it too, and you knowworking in a grocery store. It was already funny to begin with and seeingall walks of life come in there and how rude people can be. But now it's justkicked up a notch. I mean to a whole another level teonbelief. So if youdon't work in a retail, I don't think I'll ever understand it. No matter howhard I ever try to describe it, but people are rude: they're, inconsiderate,they're, selfish, they're, fucking greedy, which leads me t to wonder.Let's say this is like the the walking dead or the apocalypse that we allfantasized and bought comics and watch T v shows and movies about it. Cs likeit, it does and we kind of deserve it. Oh Yeah Heyi'm not going to argue withyou man. I H. I feel the same way. It feels like we're we're so careless withdifferent things with whether it's the environment or you know whateverweapons, manufacturing and chemistry like well all the things wewe play with. It's like surprise me. If we release some kind ofyeah situation where we create our own demise, you know that seems inavitablefor the human raact for Wen. Is this it?...

I don't know, I really don't know, butthe way people are reacting and panic shopping, holy cow and then the wholething with toilet paper in bottled water I'll, have water running from atap. I understand you may not like tap water, that's fine! You know what Ihave in my house, a water filter yeah, but I have it on a little pitcher,lastic pitcher from from Brita so tank, you Brita, whoever you get your fuckingpictures from it. It doesn't matter, but you Feelin, we're half ater her.Yes and you get your fucking clean water, Bigoti, Banbiga, Bom and,furthermore, I'm not ashamed to admit that I've been using a bid day now foryears to clean my sensitive little Tuche. So you guys can keep all thefucking toilet paper. Man. I've been done with that for a long time. Yeah.It makes more sense than anything else. Man even on t in the best of times ofHa Day, makes more sense. You're, not wiping your Hass and chafing the shitout of it is SA. You have to wait more than a handful of times no one intended,but like Y Y TAT's chefing the shit at your plus dude. What other parts ofyour body are you cleaning that get shit on them and you're, just wipingthem with a piece of paper and saying that's enough, I'm the Shi is off I'mclean youndue! Please give me soap, givme bleach. I touch my dog's shitaccidentally ' likefreaking out, but my Asol, I'm OK with just touching it withpaper and saying them good. Give me a Te Day and e said you should make wind.You clean your asshole the same way and you get Dogshin on you. Oh Wis, that nose! Oh, don't worry!That's just nate using the bathroom he's got shit on him again. It must bea messy day. He's got Mu on his butt hole, and you know you said even duringthe best of times of the day is a great option. Well, I will tell you right now:If there is a heaven, there are bedeys up there. There are no rolls of toiletpaper. I mean the other thing too. Is You never have to worry about runningout or even right now running out to east store and physically fightingsomebody for a role? Oh God, man. We are putting water, an toilet paper onthe floor and they go as fast as they arrive. I believe at you know, Ito it'sjust crazy. The Produce Department in the supermarket people are plucking itapart every day like hungry birds or you know, evil, rapters or something'cause. That's how I view them. It makes this whole thing much moreentertaining if you ie being creditors, yeah raptors from like Gurassic Park s they're running through the place. Youknow that whole thing and plane and they bitch and they they WANTA, come upto you and say how dangerous it is that you know we don't have supplies thatthey need or we limit how much you can buy, and so it goes to show you,humanity is, is lost and one thing that's been blowing my mindis the random folks that you do get in there that thank you or your service like your military. Yes, like you're, aveteran from some war. You know. Thank you, of course, is niceprovided as from like a six foot buffer. You know, but beyond that you know whatyou should be doing. People throwin money throw money at us likeSheriffers, yes, Maam, we don't care, we you don't have to vot it in our hand,just luck and whip. It Atus, like our names, are our cinnamon and and Jasmineon a pole, just smuck and throw us some money because dude seriously thank yous.Don't do ship for US R. It's like thanks and prayers yeah right thanksand prayers to those those supermarket workers, making sure that I can stillbuy my beef Feroni. You know come on Griman, go the extra mile pulling yourmoney out of your wallet. Bucking right, you know, stay six feet away from me now, so wedon't all end up six feet under you know what I mean y Bu don't put that ona fucking Tshirt, I'm selling it baby. Oh Yeah, at's, pretty good! THAT'SPRETTY GOOD! Actually! Meh, but I mean again, I don't know what's going tohappen with this, we look at the the past that have been taken from othercountries and the disasters that have happened there. It appears that we havelearned nothing from those mistakes and weare going down the same avenue. Soplease, if you do go to a supermarket. If you go to a pharmacy or anywhere,the business is considered essential and has to be open. These people havefamilies, they have kids they're freaking out when they go home, afraidthat they might be bringing something back to of their families or some kindof sickness. You know so be fucking kind out. There don't be a caksuckeryeah. I had this old son of a binch come up to me the other day, and he didthat he leaned on me 'cause. He wanted to tell me a glurty joke and his breathBuckin stunk can't na fuck out of he was close enough to smell his breath.He was Eright out close to you, yeah...

...the shoulder tho shoulder and he wantedto tell me like. Like a fucking, you know old man. Joke is dirty about Ta,like God, pussies whatever and heas starting to speak, and I could just itwas like the cartoon. With a green vapor came out of his mouth e wentwhoop R, my nostrils and I tougt thom myself. I went boy, you know this ishow it's going to happen right. This is this fucking gross ass, mother, fuckers,Stinky Halatosis, probably is imbedded with corona, and now it's in my nostrils, and thisis it. This is how I go thanks a lot. You know little dirty limerick. How isit yeah, you're dying dying from an old man's joke? It's just dad humor! Well,actually, gross old man, humor yeah, exactly they're fucking terrible, Idon't know I people tink they suck. I hate you all all right, neat boy, naty boy, nate dog,make whatever the hell. I want to call you. Let's do something fun. I mean wekind of started the show talking about what everybody else in the free worldis talking about, which I'm sure you know Everyoy''s interested in it rightNe, but at the same time, let's do something a little different and I cameup with a concept I like to call CGI or die now. We've talked remakes in thepast and this show about movies. T V shows everything because we're anostalgic lot mean you, that's a fact that is a fat Jack. Okay, so hereis theconcept take an old movie, let's say from the eighties or Whateverca, and weare replacing only the special effects. The cast remains. The actingperformance remains. This is not a reboot okay, we are only choosing toRedo or remake the special effects and inserting them into the original film.Okay. Now I'm going to name a few movies to you. Okay, if you think theywould be better, serve to have the Effects Redone in twosnta twenty, thenyou let me know if not- and you think they're perfect the way they are also.Let me know, let me know anyway. Let e know whatyou're thinking right now. What are you thinking right now? Listenin, I'mthinking that I'm probably just going to say, keep Hem. They wer Olen 'cause,I'm kind of a stickler for that shit, but Iyo never know man cause. I canimagine a few that I think would be better suited with modern effects, so surprise, Itwas convenied, the worstconcept ever unleashed upon radio, maybe thankse to me, okay, well, the first movie I'm going tothrow out at is a classic Little Datty, starting an actress that I actuallyfawne over during our first ever episode, exactly wha you're talkingabout Phebe cates, Oh put me in quarantine with her baby, but let's look at the movie GremlinsYeah. Well, so gremlance M beloved classic,and I will say that, just like I predicted, if you were to touchgremlons, I would light you on finerow Yeahman. I would urge you in amicrowave, like the Gremlans word, you know in the original movie. I would Iwant to be an a plender Y Grimlans, so my legs stick out and I rotate. U Don't put me INTA micrl. That'sthat's! That's a terrible death just exploding. Rather that is awful. Youthink the PUPPA teering and all that is perfect. The way it is there is no needto ever even consider inserting that as CGI rather than practical effects. Ithat's my position and I will take it to the grave man. Do E classic. Youknow I. I would actually I wouldn't mind seeing that done. CGI, okay, youknow I I respect your opinion, but I Irespectfully differ to differ. You Beg to differ. You think it's a piece ofshit, my my idea, but here's where I'm coming from with it: okay, okayis thatmy seven year old, when I watch gremlins with him. The first thing hesaid to me was: Oh, those are puppets, and when is that obvious to a kid andyou Kindo, you know lost that sense of wonder and wow and the magic isn'tthere. It makes you start reconsidering your position o on the film and that'swhere I am with it, where I'm like. Well, I I could gremlins is a franchiseor even just a movie mritial movie. I could, I could see being redon with CGI.Okay, and I you know what I mean...

...thinking about it. I guess it's coolMa'n because, like I guess I can see, see your angle because it's not a moviewhere something needs to be realistic, and this c Gi just has that weird thingabout it, where it's not quite realistic, like you find in a lot of cg like these are creatures that don't exist in nature, so it doesn't matterif they K, you know, CGIIS, probably just as good as anything so yeah 'causeI mean fuck, it Galam column, looks cool and he's a CGI created creature onHehoward of the Rings Movies Right, fuck it, the Grndas, I'm sure, wouldlook fine by today's 'cause. Now it's even better than it was when Galan wascreated so anyway yeah. I respect your position now, the more I think about it,but I'm still going to stand by. I I think that's an untouchable, so okaallright! Well, you know, that's that's fine, at's, a good answer and I'm gladyou're. You know sticking with your guns on that. So I t the next movie I'mMa List, I'm goingto skip for a minute cause. I have a feeling you're going totake the same stance with gremlons o the next one. H againme skipping forward. Here is a movie called Mac and me Ooooonow mackand me,I mean just kind of preface this whole thing is a terrible flunging movie andnot for the reasons that some may think. You know: Okay, listen! It's a completeknock off of e t with the product placements. They usecocacola instead of McDonalds, rather than recs. PCS, there's a terribledancing in the movie, but the editing is so bad that even during a scenewhere they're fleeing the authorities at one point, the older brothersbringng sunglasses hanging out a van ready to scoop up his brother who's ina wheelchair. If you haven't seen it, but that's not a big, spoiler, UM and tnext scene like they cut again, he doesn't have the sunglasses on, butthen when they cut back for him to scoop up his brother, the sunglassesare in fact back on wow, and this is the kind of Shit that will fuckin bugme like keep me awake at night. Thinking that some guy got paid to editthis film, it a yeah, no one's going to notice this yeah, they wouldn't evennotice it no yeah nobody, but I mean this is I d, The the costumes of thealiens, the the family of Aliens in this movie?Are, I just spoke about it. The editing keep keeping me awake at night. This isenough to to fuel your nightmares for a lifetime. It really is now when's. Thelast time you saw this movie man, I haven't seen macimy since I was a kid,probably possibly single digits like it's been that long. So I don't. Even Idon't remember a LO. The only thing I remember are little clips. I've seen onlike online youtube shows where they mention it like in a a little survey ornot a survey, an expoon bad movies, and they play a Gelof clip from it. Youknow I've, I think, that's probably all I've seen in thirty years okaywell thenI would ask you to check your phone right now. Okay, I've just sent you amovie still from MACC and me okay, so you can kind of refresh your memory on what the aliens hulling it up. Oh,yes, it's just as beautiful as I remember.The effects are just as realistic in t nonplastic ND thats sarcasm is theorsee sarcasm of all time. I just sent him a picture of the Father AlienDriving, an automobile which is still from the film, and these are reallyhorrible horrible Soi. This whole family of these little weird creatures,yyeah knock off et creatures, but it's a family of them and they're dressedthey're lik, look like they're going to Sunday to church, there's a father,alien wearing a suit and tie and he's literally in the drivereceipt of like apink Catellat. Is it is a ting like. So I'm going to spoil this right now? Okay,because no one really should ever watch this movie an the end of the movie.They are naturalized as American citizens because they they can't go home andthey go they're like what are Yeu going to do with these fucking aliens rightwell, T, let's make Hem Americans, which really would be a great practicefor all of us to kind of UH. You know wrap ourselves into now, because thisEcud was made by some Libtar. Yes, cooks, you're right, wogot thedirtyaliens from mors. What do we do? Make Em Americans o close your borders, OYoure Bor clothes, just space closer but yeah? Okay? So now I'm showing youthe picture kind of again to jog your your brain, a little bit and I' probably ruined any memory thatyou did in fact have of the film that...

...might have been positive whatsoeverwell C gi or die. Oh, that one's Cji all day, oh yeah yeah! I want to seewhat they can do, tomacame if they can make it watchable 'cause. Even just bythat picture. I deem this unwatchable and I haven't even seen it in thirtyyears. Like I said, can I make one little Adendum to what we were saying beforeabout bad editing and the sunglasses thing where you mentioned that theypoorly you know edited that with the Sunglass Yeah sureall right there was ascene in jaws, four, which I don't know if anyone has seen jaws for. I haveremember: okay, well, there's a scene where Michael Cain is climbing out ofthe water and he is dry like just coming out of thewater like it climbs up on the boat after being in the water he'scompletely dry. So it's similar, you know, but by Akay Kinyeah, jaws, Tho jaws are revengewhen they're in m the Bahamas or whatever. Yes, on the islands Y, thatwas a terrible fucking moment. Gon I der the next one here, and I alreadythis is the one ie skipped right before macking me, because I knew I knowexactly what Ou Gein ta say but think about it for a second before you put meon the stake and burned me like a witch okay think about his, I am going totread where only legends walk. This is Hafty hafty stuff, especiallyconsidering this is a gym. Henson production, my God yeah, see it'salready starting labyrinth. Oh Oh man, now, okay, so remember earlier,you almost agreed with me on gremlins because you were like well they're, notlike real creatures, their their fantasy and this and that this wholemovie, you know it's just fantasy. There are, nor you know we're talking,goblins and looking birds and whipped their heads off and on and on and on. So. If you haven'tseen labyrinth for one, you should Ando. What is wrong with you exactly. I meanit stars, one of the greatest, if not the greatest musician of all time, YeDavid boy, yes Goblin, King Bar, our favorite, H, Jennifer conally, is inthis film and it is an amazing story which also scared me a little bit whenI was a kid yeah. It was creepy. It was a little bit creepy, but it is really afantastic film you need to see but na is it c Gi or dy? Okay. I am thinkinglong and hard on this because you did have a point before with tgremlans and and another thing. That's kind of making this a little harder todecide is the recent remaking of the dark crystal series. They made likea little MII series on on Netflix right. We talked about that actually on on oneof our shows. That's right and I could be wronged ID I want to say they did doa little CG ono like it's mostly puppets, but I think they augmented itperhaps right with CDI, and this is what I'm going to say. I thinkthat if you remade labyrinth with or againthis isn't remaking, this is just adding refgeifx TV theye alway is stillin the movie. Yes, that's right, so I would say that as long as they justaugmented the effects to maybe where the puppets were able to like movetheir lips to the words better things like that, maybe do you know tastefullittle things where you're not completely remaking. Whatever characterlooks like you know, you want 'em to retain that magic of what you saw, butI think it could use a little augmenting. You know, soyou think it could benefit for maybe a little touchup. I think, to an extenselike I think, like I said, if it were used for things to make it morerealistic like the way the puppets moudhs move, like I said, like thingslike that, 'cause. That's one thing that as much as I love Jim Hensonmovies, a puppet's mouth is just goin s, the opening and SA. So to make itseem more realistic. That would be that would be cool man and certain thingswhere you could make 'em yeah make the creatures move better or flew out like,like, I said, yeah something more tastefully done where yeah, I believeit could be done. Well, I just don't Thi. I don't want to see the wholething, every character, completely remade and I don't Kn w. You know...

...when you satashore still dirty. I knowyou do dirty. This is awful. You feel, like you, getshit on you, don't you, but here you know wh when you're sayingtouchup it kindof makes me think of when they did that to the star warsmovies. That's what I'm feeling dirty about yeah. It was like one of thosethings where everybody rushing back into the theater B'cause They'e, likeOh we're, going to see some new effects in the movies we never saw before, andI mean some were okay, but even then I'm not totally sure the technology wasquite right. It wasn't there yet right. So a lot of te left o theaters goingwait. I didn't Funkit mad to see that you know Likeos, which is why I'm still kindo abig part of me, wants to stick to my guns about don't touch these movies.You know, I would say I m. This is the one where I'm going to kind of jump inand say you know what stick to your guns, because I would personally leavelabyrinth. Alo fucking, don't touch it man, that's I mean like I sai. Ifanything, it would just be because of the mouth thing, but but even that it'sjust too special of a movie. You know I it doesn't even take me out of it. Themouths thing I'm I was just trying to. I was almost trying to be overly opento the concept. You know what I mean. I I almost felt bad about the way I I wasgoing to let you on fire for Grinlans, you tryin to make up for it with Labr,AH wrong place to do it suck. I guess I guess I chose the Wrong Hill Rong orcan le on just stand on yeah I mean, but listen. You know what's great aboutthat. Is that you're open to new ideas and listening to others, which cannotbe said for the majority of our population? So who knows to you forthat? Okay last, but not t least, I do nothave a movie. I have something different and I already have. I alreadyhave my opinion on this as well, but I'm curious as to what you will say. Ido believe I know what you will say, but you are a little bit surprising, sos strange dude may wire. I can surprise you strange dude, see Wat's insid ofyou surprise at Shityou. You remember this. I know you do specifically andmost people out there of a certain age will remember this. It is a littlemusic video called land of confusion by Genesis which was done with allpuppets. It was all Papas and they they they made. UN of you know currentevents and celebrities, aime theas. So how d you feel about that being redone CGI, rather than T ook. First of all, those puppets werecreated by Um, a guy that used to do a show in at live as a British showinitially, but itws called spitting image, Rygo, spitting image, and thatwas these puppets. They were a certain style. They were very signature.Looking like they looked like the celebrities they were supposed to be,but they had a very distinct style and yeah. It's like a mad magazine, parody,yeah, exactly very, very caricaturized versions of Lik yeah, Ronald Riagan,Michael Jackson, different whoever you know, probably whoever marget MargaretThatcher at the time a se. It was British like a threy, but anyway yeahdon't touch cruckingl in confusion. Man and you can't say, know I was GOINGTOsay hew. Are you going Ta say I'm glad You'e brought up spinning image. The shows creators by the way they theyboth had great names. This British pappateering show the names are Peterfluck. He mustave had a real rough time in school and Roger Law. Well, the offices offluck and law so yeah. They they created spinningimage and they were also responsible to the land of confusion. Video and, ofcourse, like you just mentioned it- would completely render the videouseless. If you did not have the puppets in the video right c Giwould just been like Eah. Whatever you know, er even made it. It gave it itscharacter, it's right, it made it funny. It made it attractive. It made ithumorous the whole the whole Kikan cabootle from tip to tail. That's whatmade the video Spech soupd in tat, soupthats Yeh. Have you even triedputting your nuts in soup? No, I wa. I was thinking of doing itduring this quaranti yeah that'd be a good way to entertain yourself. Justvery today we're doing chicken noodles tomorrow we're doing beef, barley,splippy slits did im a sense, OFS pai. I don't know why. I just SA a Britishaccent. I don't know why I'd do anything at all, but that was CGI or di,and I want to take a moment to do something.Ok, this is the worst segway I've ever...

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...jeans and tshirts sneakers and sweatpants. The funny part of this is that there was a counter backlash to thatbacklash when a bunch of metal fans, mostly in Scandinavia, decided thatthrash metal and even the new style of death, metal with bands like MorbidAngel and Cannibal Corpse we're getting too casual in said, sweats and Jens. Inresponse, these suarly fans created black metal, a scene with one of themost easily identifiable looks and with a gatekeeper mentality that criticizesbands and fans for being posers more than almost any other scene. These arethe guys with bullet belts, gauntlets and shinpads covered in spikes or nailsand with their faces painted up like fucked up undead pandas metal wasfinally getting to a place where the music was more important than image,and these dudes couldn't handle it in a similar scenario, with equallyhumorousresults, the grunge scene forewent the visual trappings of popular music,mostly because the granartists quote unquote just wor what they could afford.Often jeans and flannel shirts, but also because they didn't care muchabout the image. The funny part this time was that Nirvana and Pearl JamEtcetera, got fucking huge in the media machine wanted some kind of image tosell the designers wanted to make money to capitalize off this paradime ship,so he started seeing fashion shows where the runways looked like soupkitchen lines with hotter homeless people. The models were all wearingwinter hats and beat up cardigans all meticulously, designed in pre,distressed or ripped when you could easily just find similar stuff atsecond hand stores it was hilarious. A few decades ago, hip hop became themost popular musical, invisible style and it's basically held on to its crown.Ever since, over the years, both the sound and the look have gone throughchanges. When I was a teenager, the look was all about big baggy clothes,PUFFY COATS AND CRISP BASEBALL CAPS, turn to the side or all the waybackward. Sometimes gang colors would find their way into the outfit onBandanas or de Rags, which would often be covering hair in tight, braids orcorn rows. The ensemble would be completed by silver, gold or evenplatinum chains or bracelets, maybe a gold tooth or a whole grill. Nowadays,things are in a weird place. I was noticing recently that today's look ofyouthful rebelliousness is almost just a mishmash of everything that camebefore it's still primarily a hip hop, loving culture, but the sound and thelook of today's hip hop is so strange and stitch together. Looking it's likeFrankinstein musically, some of its like a mix of hip, hop, Electronica,emo and Goth in varying degrees, depending on whether you listen tolitle, Ozivert, scarord or Ghost Maine, or whatever visually it's even more ofa mixture of disperate elements. Of course you have the sagging pants, butback in the day, it could at least be blamed on the fact that the pants werehuge and ill fitting. Now it's all hipster skinny jeans that need to bephysically pulled down on purpose to achieve the effect the grills are nownot just to give you a smile of gold teeth, but they often have like vampirefangs or in the case of rapper, to Kashi six nine, a rainbow smile whereeach tooth is a different, bright, color. Speaking of color, everyone hasbrightly dyed hair, which was more of a punk or like raverthing back in the daysame thing, with facial piercings they've been adopted by young HIPhoppers too and they'll get me started on tattoos. These dudes definitelyaren't afraid to permanently mark themselves up, especially on theirfaces, face. Hats have almost become a trademark of hip hop by now. So here we are at the end of anothernats notes and I'm not even sure what the point was. I began by pointing outthe ways to visually identify, artists and enthusiasts of particular genres,but by this point I'm not really sure...

...where we're at, because while a lot ofgenres still do hold on to their classic imagery and Fashion Sense, I'mlooking at you golt people. For the most part, these styles tend to comeand go on their own. Now, I'm looking at you disgost to they come and go justlike the musical styles. They represent. You don't see. Leisure suits andplatform shoes a lot because disco is more or less dead, Sene with hair metaland spaned ECC and teased hair. The styles that have lived on are eitherextremely Nishe, like the Goh, an industrial scene or they've gottenabsorbed by the unstoppable colossus that is hip hop. Maybe that's the pointhip hop is eventually just going to take over everything. It's absorbingall the other styles of music and working them into its own framework,which I guess makes sense being that it's a sample friendly genre, but it'salso working in all the other fashion and visual elements, whether it's dyed,hair, piercings and tattoos, skinny jeans or Marilan Manson, ish whitecontact lenses, you ever see the Blob hip hop, is just absorbing everythingelse. Getting bigger and bigger all the time. There's even country hip hopfusion. Now it can't be stopped lock your doors hip hop, maybe coming toabsorb you. Next, I'm talking to you Poka music. You went from looking at you Justgo Sto, I'm looking at you poker, music and UH.You know I. This is very interesting to mee the whole concept of fashion tiedin with music n fashion. TURTL aprfession turned to the rang we t andwere come into town. He Be Um, but Yeah Boi, who we talke about dencessantly.This guy was completely his music was tied directly to style, even hiscraziness or the weird odd style that he started with with a Zigi Stardust,which inspired a lot of kids to dress the same way and parents made them. Youknow parents believe they were crazy. Even looking back at the nineties, itwas a badge of honor to wear a band tshirt or dress similar to what your icons and heroes would wear. You know, so it was definitelyidentifiable and I got into a lot of trouble because of my tshirts in school. I remember I got in trouble for a badreligion. Te Shirt couldn't wear that real and that Oh yeah that and I had aM. I went to go, see Danig Performr. It was my first AVERC concert. It waseither ninety two or ninety three and I got a tshirt and it was a barbarianwoman with her big old Flappi kitties and she was like stabbing a beast orsomething, and I wor that Te School and Al Boy, all El Brok, clothes theyrunder that shirt. Remember that design yeah there was a whole conference. Ihad to sit with all the the principal and all of his MINIANS and discutindividuality N in my right to I, I kept saying First Amendment and likeit's not free Smeech, asshole t s some cities yeah when I was a kid, so myright express, huaiaup and H and yeah and n now thinking about it. I've seenpeople dressed like punks or h, Ravers, any kind of which way like you wouldmentione t. He hip hop culture and he goa kids yea can thoug Iskis and it'smore pathetic when you see adults still dressing yeah. Of course that's why Imentioned at one point: I did OA in there I'm talking about young fansPrmar, you know, but yeah. It's true. I mean what I really was struck by like I, Iwas writing the same by the end of a when I hit the hip hop thing it's likenowadays, it's true the like do. Do you watch any videos or footage of thesemodern, wrappers and they're? All like that, you wouldn't know like back inthe day. You would think they were punks or like Yeaave, kids or whateveryou wouldn't think they were like 'cause. These duds are thugs, I'mtalking gang members and shit are like wearing yeah. They got all the face,tattoosthey've the piercings. They die their here, weird colors, and it's yeah.It's weird how all these things that used to be their own styles and allsignified some kind of rebellion. All like o your parents didn't like Hem,you know Woud Piss off your parents, but in a bunch of different ways. It'slike now hip hop took all of Hem and Kinda. Okay. This is one thing nowtattoos hair die BA. You know pulling your pants down, you know whatever itis. You never thought manicpanic would...

...be a stable, yeah him HOPPYAGGANSA. Even you know rightyeah. So in any ways it's involved, and maybe it's more unique. Even if wedon't like the music yeah. I know I'm not a fan of Mummo, wrappers or whaneer.I'm not a big fan either. You know, of course we hate it. We have Tution, but the thing is: isyou know these guys are still expressing? Themselvesand is that isthat wrong, not necessarily malinappropriate, of course, notnecessarily, but this has been going on for years and years as you would stateit in your nate notespiece. It doesn't matter if hi was the sixties or the twothousands is, the kids will always rebel and try to do shit to piss outtheir parents, and a big part of that is the way they look u'reright and thestyle of music they're into, like I said it's tied in, which is strange.You know how all those things are so tieht in, but anyway yeah. It's just just anotherthing that interested me. You know, so it is very interesting o have it andit's not something. I always think about. You know at the moment. 'causelisten, you know the audience doesn't know this, but we don't really discusswhat we're exactly gon to say. Sometimes before we get on air, weKINDOF loosely throw ideas at each other, but in this instance, forexample, Naes nose. I didn't know what you're going to talk about sure. So I'mjust listening to you like anybody else, and it really made me go wow, that's acool topic 'cause, it's not something! I normally, you know sit in bed andthink about when I think about music- and I forget about that sometimes- andthat was such a huge part of my life, my God I remember going to newberry,comics and and if you're, in a place that didn't ever have one. It was notjust a comic book store and actually over the years it became less comicsand more just pop culture and stuff. But back in the nineties I would gothere for band t shirts 'cause. I wouldn't always go to concerts orwhatever, and I want to buy a dinosaur junior tshirt and my mom was with meand she was like no no way in health there's no way in Hel. I'm letting MOUbuy that shirt 'cause. It was an image and illbe. It looked like clay rose, ahand gripping ahead like the eyeballs and tongue popping out, and I thoughtit was the coolest thing, because no one else would have had it. You know,and I thought I would have been like showin up e cool tshirt Guy and that'swhat you wanted to happen. That's what you wanted, your friends to say: Cool Bansir! It's! It was like you credright and I was so pissed at my mom wholleague. How olik how I was likecome on. I need his shirt. I need it so bad. I need to impress other people bywhat I weary and, at the same time I thought I was aunique soul, an individual you know forging his own path in life, but inmany ways I was also part of the herd. Now I'm I take a sip of my uh pussy flavored, nickel juice, O o onesecond, Oh God, and just kind o. The lift availon that too, is I'm drinking a ith emergency powder mixd with water,and it doesn't taste very good and it tastes like if you just jammed of agina full of nickels dirty old nickels, but I'm drinking anyway because in mymind it protects me from viruses, an evil bacteria. I wonder if you took anactual vagina and stuffed it with nickels and licked it protective from Corona Barase. He couldand we'd never know we'll, never know, and what would happen to the woman.WHOS VAGINA was she'd, be a hero snatues built in her honor and in thehonor of her uh, really nasty vagina and an he honestwith you. I just nickel plater of Vargina yeah, PN aout well I'll tell Yo.I might have told this story on the show in the past. I don't recall so ifyou've heard this already fuck you but um. When I was a young guy, I was super sick. I had the flu, likeyou wouldn't believe I called into work and a buddy of mine came downstairsesed my neighbor, and you know, because I was a young alcoholic, even though Iwas sick. I had a little bit of Voca in to glass and he droped some Mescolinein my drink and like drink that mother Fucker, less party o well, I feel, likeShi, think I'm going to die with the hell and we went out and I felt greatand I was climbing. You Know Street size Ooh, taking myshirt off it's in the middle of winter, I as sick as a dog, but I felt like Iwas you know, impenetrable and whatever, but the whole point of the story isthis: I woke up the next day my flu was gone, so I often say the cure for the commoncold. We don't think we have it because we haven't looked down the avenue thatincludes Vaga and mescaline yeah, most, don't you know, that's not the firstplace. People tend to look no and same thing with corona. It could be. Youknow a pussy jam with filthy dirty nickols right right, but I wonder if anyone'stried, Mescolin and...

...vodka to solve this corona situation,he could work too. I don't know we just don't know, and the funny thing is isthat Um, the cure for everything may be contained within our humble little showd. unless more people tell other people about it, you're all going to die MHMso spread. The word peper spread the word and make sure you follow us on oursocials at selling out show, or you can write an email selling out show at G.Mal dotcom tell us anything you want about. I don't know whatever doesn'tmatter if you have a vagina full of spare change feel free to. Let us know.I think this wraps up. This show neat unless you have anything else that youwould like to add. No just take care of those coin purses where my coin jargo the swear jar ismissing, US stay, safe people be kind to others, don't be rude. If you've gotto go out, do it responsibly I, for one being in the eye of the hurricane,would appreciate it, and I do appreciate all of you tuning in to oursho, so virtual hugs, for each an every one of you. I M J that is nate and thishas been the selling out show.

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