Selling Out Show
Selling Out Show

Episode 37 · 2 years ago

Ep.#37 Back in the Saddle


The Selling Out Show is back to being hosted by a pair! That’s right, After some time to heal, Dave’s co-host Nate is back in action, though his back may not be up for much action. Back Injuries are serious, and our hosts are both experienced in them.
On top of physical therapy and muscle relaxers, Nate fills us in on a less traditional treatment he’s been experimenting with, to mixed results.
Dave’s life is no less filled with trials and difficulties. We hear about his recent adventures hunting that most elusive of prey, the North American jobby job. It can truly be a frustrating endeavor. Nate’s Notes is about one-man band scenarios. Those who work alone in the studio to realize their singular vision. Anyway, here’s to your health, everyone! Don’t take it for granted!

1:03- Intros and Physical Woes.
5:37- Psychiatric Dabbling/Microdosing
17:43- The Rat Race is for Young Rodents
31:15- Nate’s Notes (Studio Loners)
39:36- Clip: “(You Got Me Confused With) Someone Who Cares” by Foetus)

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...or discs or anything to my spine. So apparently it's all muscle damage and it's just taking a long time. I'm going to physical therapy. You got tennis balls on the end of your Walker Event scuffing. I am using the Walker, but luckily it's got wheels. It doesn't have it doesn't have tennis balls on the end, but it's does it have breaks? It's embarrassed. If you stop yourself, if you go a little too fast while you're going through the casino floor, well, it's like two of the feet have wheels on them and two of them are like rubber stoppers. So if you push it, it's light enough where it will roll on the two wheels, but when it needs to stop, the stoppers do keep it stopped. I don't understand. No, now we got upgrade you. Okay, I've got a Walker Guy. I'm going to give you his number. Get you hooked up your little deal. They're a little selling out. Cut cupon code for that or something. But man, you know me. I've had two back surgeries. It is no joke, right. So for you, you know, you were like, I'm sorry for not being their last episode. No, fuck that. So with my pain issues and back issues, I've been a little down in the dumps, as you can imagine, just being in constant pain does something to you right mentally in and it's already fall and I've mentioned how I get the whole seasonal effective disorder where I get depressed in the fall, in the winter, and so my doctor has prescribed me some psych meds and I've taken different ones in the past and none of them have ever worked and I've actually had nasty side effects with some that I didn't care for. But the one I'm on now is kind of at the very least I'm not having adverse reactions to it, so that's good and and I almost think it is keeping me from getting to too dark right now. But what I wanted to discuss is a different kind of therapy with a different kind of medication, and I have we have another friend who's been doing it and I've seen studies on it or seen TV shows on it where people are trying this new therapy that involves to making tiny fragments. They call it microdosing. Okay, of of silosibin mushrooms or occasionally LSD and I'm talking taking so little that you you're not tripping, you would not consider yourself tripping, you just it's skews your vision, in your perception just enough where it almost brings like a sense of wonder back into your day. You know, you question things, you look at things different, but you're not zoned out, you're not watch alone hallucinating. They're no big elephants in the room. Yeah, yeah, and the the body buzz is minimal. You're not you don't feel like an alien talking to everyone else, like you can still go about your normal day. So I was trying it. I've had some mushrooms in my possession for a long time that I've been afraid to take because I'm old now. I haven't tripped in years, right be told so. But I decided to try just taking tiny little bites and honestly, it does, I don't know, I don't know how to put it. It does judge things. It works. Yes, I guess you know it can. What I'm saying is I notice a change. I've been careful to just take a small amount and and yeah, my days have been a little more interesting and it's it's not impairing. I can still do what I need to do throughout the day. And Yeah, I noticed that. I feel a little more positive. I know with your back problem right now, you're you're unable to drive in everything, but what about my dosing with those kind of activities? You feel safe operating heavy machinery? I mean, I suppose it would be irresponsible of me on the air here to say that I condone that kind of behavior, but I I'm not gonna, I'll put it this way. I'm reserving judgment on that because I don't know what to say. I feel like it would be possible. Like I said, you're not impaired really, but I would say, just for Litigations Sake, yeah, I would not reckless. Let's not get sued today. Right, right. But where I wanted to go with this story is that, yes, with my back issues, it's it's definitely helped me from getting to down in the dumps. This this treatment, this micro dosing, and one day, it was a Saturday, I had even less to do than usual, so I decided to take what I thought was a marginally larger...

...bite than usual of this mushroom. But I'd been warned that these mushrooms I had were really good and I kind of underestimated the effect. It's that would happen. You know when I when I took this larger bite? Yeah, sure, so, before I knew it, I was getting the full feeling of the the butterflies in your stomach, anxiety feeling that's comes with the onset of a hallucinogenic experience, and the carpet was looking fascinating and you like, I don't even own a carpet. Yeah, suddenly there's a shag carpet. Yeah, the the linoleum was growing fur right weird. But whatever was happening, I I'm glad that I was experienced enough of a tripper and also used to the back pain enough where I didn't make any mistakes and further injured myself. Just being slightly impaired by, you know, hallucinating and being a little out of my out of sorts, as it were, I didn't end up pulling a muscle further. I was used to babying my back and kind of having to do things more gingerly, so it was fine. Like most, for the most part, it was okay that I was tripping, but the problem came a few hours into it when, I don't know, I just eat, start thinking too much. Yeah, you might get some bad for me exactly. And again, the concept that I'd been in constant pain for weeks did start to get the better of me. I was starting to get it was working against itself. Where I had been taking the micro doses to keep me from getting depressed, all of a sudden I was overthinking things and to the point where you were depressed. Yeah, well, just starting to work adversely. And and I think what triggered that to was that I I decided to turn on a Netflix. Shy, there's not much I could do, so I'm like, I'll turn on something a walk right. Yeah, sure, pop on the boot and right, and there's a new series based on the old movie, the Jim Hanson Movie, the Dark Crystal, and I've mentioned it before on here about my I was looking forward to it being released. So I figured this is as good a time as any to to watch it, to try it out while I'm on, you know, a bit of silly Sibin Mushure. Yeah, R and man, the the thing was it was imagery from my youth, which is always evocative and makes you think, and but it was different than what I was used to. So it kind of messed with my mind. Any of our listeners that may have experience with psychedelicx mate like it's weird. You look for comfort in certain things. Sometimes you're like, okay, that's familiar, and if you starting to freak out, you might grasp at something familiar. And so I'm like, oh, dark crystal, I know the dark crystal that and start watching it and it's completely different and the story is completely different. The characters look a lot different and the yeah, the plot is different. And so it ended up not being the comforting experience I thought it was and it kind of made me feel a little worse. I don't look, I don't even know where I'm going with this whole story. It wasn't your safety blank. Now the dark crystal ended up working against me and everything was working against this is terrible. gonna be greats can promote like this new kind of therapy to help people out, and you like it was gone off. Alas, trip my fucking balls off. I took too much. Yeah, well, leave it to the the addict in the room to to not have enough with the tiny bite. I had to take a little extra on the first chance I got. I that's the addict in me that always needs more and more and more, I guess. Uh Huh, but right, hey, I learned something's the same with me when I'm drinking. Exactly. You know. I mean it's like you. So I'm at a point my life now I'm like I can socially have a drink, but left unchecked, I'm like, God, I'm going to have another one. What's wrong with one more? I'm starting to feel buzz. Okay, one more and someone around me has to go. WHOA Dave, hold your horses. You know what you can turn into, man, right, calm down. So I understand completely about you taking that extra little munch, munch on your little trippy mushroom. There, I get it. The unfortunate thing is, it seems like to me. Yeah, and I apologize, not at all, I do, but going anywhere, it seems to be like my responsibility now in the show, just jumping and fuck up your shit. But I mean, the thing is is the microdosing you like. It's been working great, but then when I did too much, boy did I fuck everything up. That's true, because it's like you undid what you have achieved by starting the process of microdosing to begin right where it was relieving you. And the thing about drugs, like you mentioned as well,...

...we're doctors, keep recommending the same shit. That doesn't work. Yeah, that's the worst, and all doctors will do that. You can tell them I was on that for a year. It didn't work for me. Oh yes, well, anyway. But now is it different? You know, and you're like no, no, I've done that doc actually, so they they kind of pushing you to alternate, you know, methods to help yourself, you know, medicating yourselves. True, but you know, here we are where we're just like okay, it works great, just don't Overdo it. So again, it is an arcotic so hey, yeah, it's it. There's potential for for getting out of yourself and getting out of your head and getting a little crazy. So so just know that going in and just proceed with caution. Is is the moral of that story. Okay, but it will work in moderation or it has. It has, it has. The limited experience I have with that, the weak or two that I was that I was trying it. It did its job until I got glottenous. Basically, well, next time, don't watch the dark crystalll try watching the Yuletide log or something on Netflix, you know, with a fireplace setting, kind of get yourself lost to that, because boy, I my tripping days are many years behind me. But the dark crystal is not a place I would call my comfort zone, so to speak. But I want to hear about you guys as comfort zones. Hell, I want to hear about anything you want to tell us. I want you to support the show. And how can you do that? By writing us a message or leaving us a voicemail or, hell, leave a review on itunes. That can always help the show. So how do you do that? You're asking. Dave. I want to talk to you. I'll guess what it is. Easy, peasy, lemon squeezy. If you want to leave a voicemail in the selling outline, it's seven, seven, four, seven, zero one, one thousand nine hundred and ninety three. Nobody is going to pick up, or at least I won't, and say hey, he and surprise you. You can leave a voicemail and we may just played on the show. You can find us on twitter at selling out show, on facebook at selling out show one, there is the extra one. Tag Down to that, or send us an email selling out show at gmailcom. Oh Yeah, and before I forget, I have a challenge for you guys. It seems that our music is kind of gone pass a the Intro, the Outtro I've heard a few things lately. Seeing you guys should mix it up, freshen it up, sprinkle in some new so that's why, if you were a musician out there, you think you got any musical talent whatsoever, write something for us. But you know, I'm not just trying to elicit stuff for free here. If we do pick your music for this show, I will send you a bag of goodies, some stuff from our partner, so you know it's good and you will get recognition on the show and every episode that is aired. The music doesn't have to have vocals, it doesn't have to have any kind of traditional instruments. Go Wild, be creative, dudeever you would like. Just think, you know, maybe it's selling out. Show centric, or is that the right way to put it? Next, suppose, but even just the cool vibe or cool melody would would be, could be chosen perfect right, exactly anything you want. I mean, if you got a Kazoo, whip that motherfucker out and shred it, send it to us. Nate, nobody wants me, Oh man, there is nobody on the face of the earth that is interested in me, at least for employment perpose. And I've been finding this out the hard way because I've been trying to apply for work. I'm currently right now unemployed. I don't have any GIG, so to speak, other than this show, but you know, I don't get paid for that. So I need to get out into the workforce, make a few bucks bring home the Baker. I'm lucky. I'm in a situation where my wife works and everything else. It's not like I'm on the streets per or anything like that, but dude, I need a fucking job now. I was working, if you remember, for a little bit. I was managing the thrift store there, but the only reason why, I think, they even accepted me in the first place was they were so desperate, they reaked of desperation for someone with any kind of management skills or any kind of background whatsoever. And they're in a pinch and they just hired right. Fortunately, that job didn't pan out. Here I am thinking, especially after something like that, you think, oh, it's going to be easy now. No, I was wrong, Dude. I can't find anything. Paper, applications, walk INS, applying online. I looked at my resume, redone my resume. It doesn't make any sense. I mean I started to think to myself, am I overqualified for some of these jobs I'm applying for? Okay, maybe that's the case, because I am. I'm my sights are set pretty low. I mean right now, honestly, I'd be willing to be like a trappe's wire inspector, or maybe even a fluff guy in a porn said. It doesn't matter. I mean seriously, if someone said I will pay you to hop on one leg in Blink for twelve hours out of a day, I would do it. What the hell, weird it because I just made it up. But the thing is is nobody will...

...fucking hire me. It's frustrating. Yeah, that is it's say, you know, rejections a tough thing, or are not even rejection, because usually what you get with that is more just silence. You're just getting radio silence coming back right. It's just well, yeah, exactly. And even then rejection doesn't bother me, unless it involves money, right, right, well, making some sort of some sort of income. Then it's like, come on, guys, what the Fuck's going on? Him Right, even getting any blips or any sorry, we reviewed it. You weren't a good fit. Nothing. It's just dead as man. That is hard, you know, for opposedly, are fearless leader in the White House says that the economy is doing grade and the job markets better than ever, but some, some of us, are still having trouble. Yeah, the unemployment rate, I believes that three point seven percent. In the grand scheme of things, I have no idea what that means whatsoever, but I assume that's low. I don't but still. Even then, like I said, I'm fucking applying for gas station attendant or anything and I won't get it. And even management stuff, which I have more experience in, nothing, nothing at all. So I guess I got two options left. Right, I can either become a priest or rob a bank. Wo which one do you? Which one you like? That both sound pretty criminal, but I think I think the priest has more longevity to it the you. It's more the long con the bank robberies are smashing grab and thing with bank robberies is you're only you're probably only making a few grand tops, and I'll take it. And then you got to hit another one when the bills pile up again or if you haven't been hired for a legitimate job in the meantime. Yeah, I used to be a bank robber, but now I work at Mickey D's. Didn't put the bank robber on my resume. There's got to be some kind of weird section of craigslist you could find CD employment. Well, it's that. It's not even I'm looking for CD employment, I'm looking for any exactly. I'm being push in that direction. And even though I did notice something odd on applications now that I never recognized before, where when you were a kid, it always had that little box check if you're legally able to work in the United States. If you're this a right, if you're sixteen year old, at eighteen roller now there's a box says check this if your age forty or over. Oh Wow, and I just turned forty one. And I'm like, that's your problem, that's your problems. It there. They are shutting you out, they're being agist, my friend. Oh Yeah, oh no, that's a thing. You're feeling like the Hollywood actress that pastor prime. You know your no more good roles left for me. I put you out to pasture. Man. Ready for my close on, Mr De Vel, you'll have to play some like, I don't know, a ugly serial killer or old author or something, I don't know what. You just looked at my face and those are those are the roles and now I thought of like serial killer out of wood of Charlie's there and playing Eileen Warren knows, and like how that's when she finally started getting some serious recognition. She was not that. She's really up in the age. She's still fairly accessible. She's still fairly, fairly in demand, I guess. But but then the what did I say for the other one? I said serial killer in old author. Old author because of like Nicole Kidman, when when they have an attractive actress they really start getting the recognition when they play. She played like Virginia Wolf. There was one part and she put on the makeup and a big fake nose and all this. And so what I'm saying is, if you're willing to put in some work, maybe you don't have to go out like just like an old actress. You can like you can still get someone. I'm process that you don't need to just rely on for a job elish figure. Is what I'm saying. You know in your that I certainly do not have. All right, I don't even know where I'm going with this, Dude. I'm maybe I don't need it, but I'm still tripping making me think you might have pay. You make me think I'd put on like a witch's nose and a wig and like walk into the dollar store be like I'm here for a job. Plays anybody him? Yeah, I I don't know a man. It's it's definitely frustrating. There's no end. You know, you mentioned rejection earlier. That's something I don't have a problem with. I don't like the certainty of it all, like I don't have someone telling me come of even getting a fucking interview. Like if, if I was even in that face, someone can say, to my face, oh, Dave, well, yeah, you haven't had this many years in this job experience since whenever or you get my drift. You know what I mean. You don't fit the role because of this. I'm rolled, I'm talking like an actor. You don't you don't fit the job because of this or whatever. But said, I just I don't know what the fuck I'm doing wrong. Man, you get no feedback at all. It sucks. Yeah, know,...

...when you apply online, it's anonymous, except for that fucking forty year old check box. I'm telling you, man, that seems like you're stumbling block right there. It's just it's like what all these things have in come and they're not calling you back. Your check in that box. Man, maybe you should get some botox treatments and try lying in that box. Try Not me. I'm just not going. Yeah, it's not going to check in. Just show up and they fucking I'll be like, oh, they called me a half I finally got my audition for a boy band. Show up, they're like Whoa Dude, yeah, we too old for this position. Years ago, I was part of this nonprofit collective of ex prisoners that were working actively to cause change in the laws and and one of our projects was to streamline the process for people with criminal records to get jobs. So when, basically we change the laws so when a person with a criminal record, or anyone, applies for a job, they're no longer legally able to ask you, at least in Massachusetts, whether or not you've ever been convicted of a crime on the application. They can ask you once you get to the interview, but the point was people were throwing away the applications just seeing that box checked for so long. Right, at least give someone the chance to explain themselves in an interview before you know as Scomm in person, and they can explain it to you. They give you like one line to explain yourself. It's like check the box. Yes, I've been convicted of a crime before, and it's like sometimes it's work. More complicated, though, but the point is we changed that in Massachusetts in the hiring process in Massachusetts. So maybe we need to do some work on the over forty bucks and Texas job. Yeah, whatever, as gonna say, because for me the criminal stuff is clean right, so it's not anything you know related to that. I just don't fucking get it. And you know, another bad thing is, once you expressed to other people, which I've kind of been hesitant to do on the show, is you get a lot of suggestions. Well, do the Tempe aid to see, do this, do that, did it. I it's like, Dude, I've tried just about everything and nobody's interested in me. I don't get it. I've got decent experience in my life, management experience. I had a good career. I mean I'm taking many years away from it, but what fucking gives? And I want to be able, like, to give the excuse of woman who stopped her career to raise her kids. Yeah, because it's in essence is kind of like what I did I became a stay home dad. Definitely is. Yeah, yeah, I'm just looking for either a full time or part time Gig to bring in a little extra scratch. Give me a chance, give me something. So, I don't know. What would you hire me to do? Man, I would have you carrying me around piggy back all day because my back is fucked, although that wouldn't work because your back is already compromised. Yeah, that's a really stupid idea, bad one. Maybe I wouldn't hurry you either. No, yeah, it makes it. It's on brand. I'll tell you that right now. It is on brand, because I got somebody lined up for that job who's under forty already anyway to can. Well, guess what, he didn't check the box. That's the same guy used to carry Oscar around on a sesame street. Hey, everybody, that's why to take a little moment out of the show and thank our sponsors. But before I do, let me tell you I'm not the kind of guy that would just endorse anything without trying it first and also enjoying it. So there's no blowing any smoke up your petudy. Make sure you shop with our partners. First Up, I Have Northland Vapor Company. 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I've mentioned artists on previous episodes, like zeal and ardor, who produce albums on their own, only working with others when it comes time to take the project on tour or if they want to feature some guest musician on a song or two. Black Metal in general has been a genre comprised of many solo projects. In fact, burs M is a project that I've mentioned on here before as one of the first Norwegian artists to produce black metal and as the brainchild of one man, Vard Vikernesz, who went on to gain notoriety after murdering uronymous, the founding member of mayhem and really of the genre as a whole. A lot of black metal guys are misanthropic loners who prefer to work alone, and as a result, the mystique of the genre, which is already shrouded in dark imagery, grows with so many reclusive artists contributing to the black metal catalog. Vice did an interesting three part special on the subject called one man metal, that you can find easily on Youtube. It features a few guys who've released loads of material without ever really revealing their human alter egos before. They all seem a little odd and antisocial, depressed and full of social anxiety, and it's exactly the persona one would expect from the type of guys that make such bleak music as they do. Of course, my first real experience as a young teenager opening a CD booklet and realizing that it was all done by one dude was the pretty hate machine album by nine inch nails, all songs written and produced by Trent Resner. That shit blew me away. As I got into more and more industrial and electronic acts back then, I saw the phenomenon more and more as well.

Electronic music is another genre that's made up of one man bands. Of course, nine inch nails performs with a whole live band, as he incorporates guitars and live drums with his program since stuff. But I remember seeing aphex twin as a teenager and he just embraced the fact that his music could be performed with just a laptop computer. He had a couch brought on stage then basically played on his laptop while laying across the couch. He had performers come out and do weird things like shave their own heads or dance while dressed as huge neon colored plush teddy bears. He made it fun, but it was all to cover up the fact that maybe the musical performance aspect of being a solo electronic artist can be a tad underwhelming. But, as with nine inch nails, many artists will hire a band to do a more souped up version of their work for live audiences. And speaking of nine inch nails again, I decided shortly after discovering Trent resoner that I wanted to learn about his influences, which is how I found out about bands like skinny puppy and ministry, and another one man project that apparently inspired Mr Resner a great deal, which is this episode's suggested listening. The consistently bizarre work of Mr James G Thirlwell, specifically at as fetus thoroughwell, or Jg as he goes by, has said in the past that his instrument is the studio itself. He would use whatever instruments were around or sample some noise or sound clip and just use studio wizardry and processing to make new sounds out of it and then arrange all his original sounds into strange compositions completed with Jg's sarcastic and darkly humorous lyrics delivered in his trademark sneer. It's hard to classify Jg thorowwell's music anyway, but he's been working for so long that his most recent material sounds miles away from what he was releasing back in the early s when he was inspiring a young Trent resoner. Jag has always been good at creating a real atmosphere, but over the years a lot of his work has gradually developed more of a cinematic soundtrack feel. He would listen to a lot of modern classical composers and eventually he began doing some television scores. His awesome score work is a sort of tip of the hat to the S S spy films, and you can hear it on shows like the venture brothers or archer, both of which being cartoons that have a sort of retro feel as well as a spy or action motif. So thorowell's music compliments things really well. And despite the fact that a lot of his work over the years has been sample heavy, his scoring work and a lot of his more recent releases under various side projects like steroid maximus and manorexia feature actual big band orchestras performing his bombastic and larger than life compositions. Even the most recent fetus material has sounded more cinematic, playing with moods other than the tried and true fist pumping bad assery that marked a lot of his younger years. I mean, this is a guy who ushered in ministry and nine inch nails. It's cool to see him branch out of it in his old age. The song I suggested is from an eighteen year old album, so a fair amount of snark is still in place and the production is still more sample heavy than symphonic, but I think it's still shows the man's personality and you can still hear shades of the man who perhaps inspired kmfdm in his youth. Here's a clip of you got me confused with someone who cares by...

...fetus. Make good views with someone so insummation. As Fun as it is to kick ideas around in a band or group dynamic, sometimes when an artist has complete autonomy in a project, you can hear his or her personality more clearly in the finished product. I mean we were, we were part of a project, Dave, back in the day that we had songs. Like you, I know you personally, with a four track, wrote songs on your own and recorded whole song. Sure did. It's Yep, it's possible to just have an idea and flesh it out completely by yourself. So it's interesting. I don't know, some guys are really good at more fun with other people. I agree. That's how I tend to lean myself. I always liked playing in a band more, but I respect the singularity of vision of some of these guys. But yeah, for myself I will agree with that. I think it's more fun to it more more rewarding ultimately, because somebody might think of something that you didn't even think of. You Right, yeah, your collaborative process so anyway. But you know what, you can't argue with some of the results, though. I mean you brought up a couple examples there during nace knows, you know, nine nails, Trent Resner, and it's like, well, he got the band when he played live, but I mean the music itself was perfection, the way it was stemming from his mind. You know, some people are just geniuses in that way. That studio wizards. And Yeah, Trent resider was, I think, a lot of people's introduction to that. I know I know personally, like I said, I don't think I had heard of someone doing that before him, and I know I know a lot more now. I know we used to listen to this project called self years ago, and here sure that was in the name self. It was just one dude. And Yeah, this, I mean there's a ton of them, a lot, like I mentioned, industrial bands, even black metal acts. A lot of them are just one guys art. Yeah, I mean classical artist. Granted, they needed the Beetoven, needed the live the live band to play stuff, but right, yeah, very good man, I like I did. So so there goes another week. I'm sorry. It took a couple episodes to do it. So it was actually four weeks this time since I suggested that listening that that piece of music. So hopefully everyone's stuck it out and well, you know what, though, they may have had a weight for weeks. Yeah, but next time out we get a big one form. That's right, that's right. I Halloween Hullabaloo are annual Halloween episode which is going to be chock full of Spooky, scary clutch your pearls goodness, man, I love it. I'M A my inner goth child is giggling over here. Man, I curse you wear black. Yeah, I wear a lot of black, and so and so does the guy I'm going to recommend for next week. and to anyone who's got any history with the Goth movement or knows anything about it, I suppose it wouldn't come as a surprise that the guy I'm picking is Nick Cave and he's got a project called Nick Cave in the bad seeds. He used to be in the birth day party. But the the song I'm choosing for next episode, for our Halloween Hullablue, as it were, is probably his biggest song, or one of them. It's called red right hand, and fans of his maide say oh that's your that's like picking his enter sand man. You know the song. That kind of the obvious choice. Fuck them. You just brought up that he was in birthday cake or birthday barth a party man. Maybe he was in the birthday cake at the birthday bread jumped out of the birthday cake teda. But Red right hand is a great song to start with. I think there's a reason it's his most wellknown song. So I'll put the link up on the facebook page. I'll try not to miss a guy. Better not miss next episode. The this... the big one. No Fun. Ask the Big One, baby. I better be a little more healed up by then, but regardless, I'll be here to discuss Mr Cave and we'll we'll hear about the red right hand. And you're the horror guy. Yeah, man, that is your niche, that is your point of expertise, if you will. So I'm really excited for the next episode and talking scary, Spooky stuff with you on that, because, I mean, you bring up Shit that I have no idea about. I mentioned you pre show that. You know. Now, on twitter, being October, you see people saying, Oh, you know, here's is our dirty day of Halloween list of movies you must watch, and I'll always see someone say, Oh, dead alive. This is the first time I've ever seen this movie and I think about like over twenty years ago, yeah, when you were the one that taught me because of that movie Derek's don't run. Well, that's Peter Jackson. Actually, the Derek Line is from bad taste, not from dead alive. But See, well, they even Bam same director. But you got it, man, you know this shit. I don't, but you've seen the dead alive. To that was those a gory, horrible, gross movie. I still love it, but I for me, like one of my favorite horror movies, which I will discuss more next episode. But I'm going to say once bitten, okay, because it has one of the best dance scenes. You know, dirty dancing can go fucking suck a big fat yeah, once bitten as one of the best dance scenes in a film of all fucking time. So I don't even know if I really you should watch it again. I will. I think everybody out there, if you get a chance, you know pre are Halloween episode, watch one's bitten and they're going to say, but Dave, that's good jim carry in it and I say I don't care all, hey, that's I don't give a flying fuck. That's a really funny, good entertaining and you know, Halloween centric movie. Right. So there's my Dave's notes. All right, I suggested watching for right, my Dave's due list. How we call something? We need a name for it. I just pulled that out of my ass. I don't know. He's out of my ass list. I don't maybe you can recommend movies for my recommended artist to watch so nick cave can watch once bit. Yeah, once he gets out of the birthday party. He's been it. Hasn't popped at the party a long time. Popped it in the VHS and rock out with his schlock out. You know what I mean. Yeah, I can't believe you know you don't remember. That's terrible. It so greatness your loss, apple sauce. This was a fucking fantastic dance scene. I'll have to I mean it's up there with like. You should refresh because when you think a dance scenes in movies, was the first one that comes to your mind? Think of like flash dance dirty. Really, I think it. I think I like Teen Wolf. Yeah, Seen Wolf was good. Yeah, there's a bunch of them. They're all the S, it seems like. Yeah, Hey, it is, it is s right. It was like the the era of the slow clap and fucking awesome dance sequences and movies, even though I seem to be pulling all of mine out of left field here. Hey, they've even had a sort of rock out part in the breakfast club, that weird, random part where they're all like rocking out, like like oddly rocking up. But yeah, that was very odd. I actually had the I was was going to say about two weeks ago maximum overdrove, which is randomly on TV. You can of Ameliust of is. Yeah, well, that's what just maybe you thinking in blood, you recognize a connection. Six degrees of Emelio is six degrees of Amelia, it would. I did not enjoy my viewing, oh really, of maximum overdrive after how many fucking year? I was a kid last time I saw that movie, so I got all psyched them, like I'm gonna put it makes some popcorny maze. You mean fucking great? Yeah, no, Nancy Cart Right now, I'm sorry. You'rdle Smith. We're sacredly Smith Yard least weirdly, Yardley, or year yardly. It's pronounce Yardley, I guess. But yeah, I get out of my yard lea. Yeah, Simpson, simpsons voices, Lisa, she was in it, whatever. And and I thought I was Nancy Cartwright. I'm stooping, Matt. Well, no, maximum overdrive was Stephen King's first, for a first and maybe only for a into directing a film, and he admits freely that he was on so much cocaine he doesn't remember any of it. So well, that's good, that's real good, because the movie was pretty loud. You back? Yeah, it was pretty fucking loud. Yeah, exactly. So, anyway, we could talk, talk about things like this next episode. You know. Yeah, I was going to say let's get the fuck out of here, because obviously I'm just like rattling shit off. That makes no sense and fucking I have no knowledge on anything onceoever, so I apologize for that. Actually, no, no, I don't. It's who I am. Great, hire me, give me a job. All right. Well, that does it for this episode of selling out. I want to thank you all for taking the time to tune in. Virtual hugs for each and every one of you. I am Dave, that is nate, and this has been selling out. There's now infirmary media. Give your...

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