Selling Out Show
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Episode 32 · 3 years ago

Ep.#32 Coinkydink


It’s Summertime, and our hosts are in a nostalgic mood. The episode starts with some issues they’re having with pets, including the death of Nate’s horse, Lexi. They get on the subject of friends who have passed on, and discuss some odd happenings that make one question if there is something after this life. Then it’s time to revisit a legendary house party from back in the day. There was drinking, singing, fighting, some chain mail, and a whole lot of property damage. Nate’s Notes this episode is all about the cycle of coolness that any musical or fashion trend goes through. Things are cool, then they’re not, then they’re cool again! This week’s suggested listening is a band who sound plucked right out of 1987, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

0:45- Intros and Some Animal Issues

4:01- Signs from the Beyond?

15:39- Tales of the Week Long Party

29:38- Nate’s Notes (the Cycle of Hipness)

40:37- Clip (Dot In the Sky by Drab Majesty)

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I'm John Prudou, the economists US editor, and I'm the host of a new podcast about the two twenty elections and the road to power in America. Together with two of my American colleagues and whole cast of economist correspondence around the world, will take you through the ideas and the social changes that are shaping politics in what promises to be an exceptional election year. We'll look at the long view and ask the big questions. What has the trump administration actually achieved? What does centrist Democrats really believe it and what kind of country is America going to be after November? We'll go beyond the headlines and horse race to delve deeper into the contest for the White House and why it matters so much. That's checks and balance for the global view on democracy in America. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, a cast or your podcast APP. Start listening today. Infirmary media. You were now to yea of the selling out podcast. What it does is beach is into you a brain chemically and no cat your happiest memory chemically and then blocks on to that emotion and released it chemically, and then it keeps your happy, happy. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the selling out show. We have a great one plan for you today. I am one of your host David Schultz, and by my side my partnering crime, Make Gore Zinski. Nate, how the Heck Are you? Hey, dave, it's it's actually been kind of a rough day. I don't want to begin it with a Downer, but we had a death in the family. One of our four horses actually had a bad break on a leg and, as the cliche goes, when the horses leg breaks, you got to put her down. So it was a rough day, but we're we're going to keep Lexi, the horse, in our thoughts and just also keep carly, my girlfriend and my thoughts because she's she's having a rough day. Was One of her babies. So but we're gonna go forward, you know, we we think positive thoughts about her, but we're gonna we're gonna have a good show. I we are going to have a good show. I'm sorry to hear about your horse. Yeah, you once were the keeper of the four horsemen of apocalypse. Very city had for them. Yeah, now you're down to three. That's that's too bad. I actually I just added a pet into my yes, and mine is not a sad story, but one of frustration. So I'm not trying to take away from your grief. I don't all, man, but I'm very angry. You know, I don't like pets to begin with. Right, frustrate me just is fucking make me mad. And my son got a hamster. Oh No, then you look at it here. It was funny as say, Oh no, because you look at a hamster and they go that little cute little fat fuck. Look at I mean his foot. Look at him in his wheel and a happy little guy. I recommend to any parent out there please do your research before you buy a pet. MMM, because I didn't know. The fucking thing is nocturnal. So it's up all night long spinning it's little hamster wheel, which is noisy. Yeah, squeak, squeak in the middle of the night. Then, yeah, so my kids not? Yes, the squeaky wheel. My son is not sleeping very well thanks to the hamster, but he says it doesn't bother them. But yet I'm like, why are you up at one am? Well, I don't know, no reason. Yes, the fucking little little furball. They're right. The other thing about it is it it's a little poop factory. Of course, I don't know what the classification of animals are, like the hamsters, a guinea pigs, two bunnies, whatever you call them. I again, I just come a little furry, fat fucking things, but they shit like nobody's business, like I've never seen before in my life. Yeah, so, therefore, I am the one to clean the cage. Yeah, man, yeah, you're the dude, you're the I. I'm a Dukey Dude. Yeah, that's me. So it's just a fucking nightmare. Are On epic proportions. So when he looks at it, its name is Oreo, by the way. See, yeah, another cute name on until fucking you gotta clean up after the fucking thing. But Anyway, I'm stuck, with all respect sponsibilities of this fuck. I want to check it out a goddamn window. Yeah, Dude, don't I know it? Yeah, FIT's perfectly in my palm to can fucking chucklate a knuckleball with that son of a bitch. I'm not really gonna do that. Don't be calling any of the fucking pet authorities on me. People don't call Peter Peter to me. I associate with bread,...

...but other people associate with animal rights. Yes, exactly, just don't do that to me. I will be kind to the little fucking furball. We had a mutual friend who passed away far too soon. As a matter of fact, we dedicated our first episode to him. He had a big impact on our lives. Again, a true blue great friend, and I had a dream about him the other night, and it wasn't really an extravagant dream or anything. We weren't do anything to fancy the GIS. We were just basically smoking the butt, smoking, though, US smoking butts, yeah, and shooting the breeze. So Hmm. Anyway, I mean it happens from time to time. You remember people that you cared about, right. But here's where it gets a little trippy. Yeah, is I have something mail notification from USPS, or whatever the fuck they called USPYA, the postal service, the US Postal Service. As you I can't speak this episode. Please forgive me in advance. But Anyway, yes, and I get a scan of all my mail before it comes to my mailbox and there was a flyer in there. And whose name was on it? Not Mine, but the name of the friend who pay, Andrew Jones, who passed away. So I was really kind of fucking like I just got punched. Yeah, I was like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, this is really just quite fucking coincidental. Yeah, and I'm not really a big believer in signs right, really, the afterlife even I'm not even sure it really had to feel about that. Sure, I don't really believe that spirits come to visit you, to talk to you or anything, I mean either. But what really bothered me, I think, the most, is that when you lose somebody so young, M we've had the luxury of growing older and in my case yours as well, mellowing out right, kind of like easing into adulthood, especially with the lines that we led, the crazy lives, and we gain new perspectives on, you know, everything in this world and understand ourselves better. And I really wish I could have a conversation with Andy now in this I know, I'm I know like that. That was something that I was like, that really fucking bums me out. Yeah, because I really would like to know where he would be now. I know, what kind of person would he have become? I think about that all the time. I there are so many times he's one of those friends where there are so many things that all experience in my life and I'll be like, damn, you know, I almost think I can't wait to tell Andy Still, all these years later. It's been like a decade plus since he's been gone, but like he was such a big part of our lives that, yeah, it's I still. Yeah, we'll see things and say, man, I can't wait to tell Andy, and then it hits me I'll be like, oh, yeah, that's right, and that sucks, but right, yeah. or I'll think what would he would have what would he have thought about such and such or the political climate right now, as certain things, certain inventions. You know, it's always weird to think of stuff like that. You know what they missed out on? All this shit's Andy was barely around for like smartphones and Shit. You know, a lot is, a lot has changed, but anyway, anyway, yeah, that was just that's a strange experience. Man. You had the dream and then you had the weird postal service sort of mishap. That just was with his name, like that's well, the thing was it was his name, but my edge, my address. Yeah, like, what the fuck, men, because we were all roommates to I'll live together at certain points. You know. Yeah, I know, it's just really just way too again to repeat, coincidental. Yeah, just just strange. And again, just the day after I had that fucking dream, yeah, where I woke up really emotional, just being like man, I miss that motherfucker. Oh wait, I got an email. What the fuck? Yeah, Dude, you know, this is just I don't know. And how about you? Do you believe in like signs or anything? Is that something it would like, you know, alert you that maybe someone trying to communicate with you or something like that? Well, I never have, and I am really sensitive in a meaning I get angry kind of quickly about the whole medium thing, like the industry of saying that they're speaking to your dead loved Oh yeah, that like that Shit really passes me off. But as skeptical as I am with all these things, I had one sort of peered in my life where I experience not one, but like two things that really kind of made me question. I could not explain them, and so my roommate I've mentioned on another episode, I believe, I found him dead. It was a sad situation, but right his family, I was still staying there with his wife, his wife's mother and their three kids, which were eight, seven and like an infant, like one. And Yeah, so anyway, he had recently, does very recent and the apartment...

...was like a basement apartment, and there was an area where you could walk in and that's where all the boiler or the whatever, the furnace, all that shit like in some storage, like the actual basement, basic, because we're on the basement level, but we did have access to like the buildings, the apartment buildings, basement right there, you know, right, yeah, I fall you. Yeah. So with there were a bunch of it was just a bunch of Shit, like there were toys, like all the kids stuff that they didn't play with any more. That I'm talking like. There was a whole room that was just like a pile of toys. And one day we're here I hear this little singing. It was like a little Spanish. It sounded like a toy singing, and the the motherin law that was living with was like, oh my God, and she's starting to freak out and we're so we I don't know why. So we're going in the storage area because that's where it's coming from, and I'm picking up toys, like I can hear it coming from this pilot toys. So I'm moving toys around and I find, I finally find it's like this little doll, but it's one of these dolls where you have to hold each of its hands, like you're playing ring around the rosy or something. In the connection there's like a little metal spot on each hand and when you make the connection by holding its hands with your body, it completes the circuit and the things, sayings you start saying. But it wasn't touching anything like I and you could say, well, was it touching like another toy? That was whatever. Yeah, the I don't the way I remember it right. Well, that's where I was wondering. Maybe when the battery gets low it starts singing. I you know, certain things do shell it. So it may. It most likely has a rational explanation, but it was freaky at the time because the guy had recently died. In this toy. I guess the story was the father who had passed away had gone out of his way to find a doll that sang this song and Spanish, or saying in Spanish at all back then, I suppose. Now you probably find more Spanish speaking toys, but this was years ago and you didn't see it as much as more rare yeah and all. Yeah, yeah, and he found this doll, like he went hunting for a doll that sang in Spanish and that's what it would he found it. It was special. So that's why it was kind of like this weird thing, like the daughter was home, she was, you know, crying and all this shit, but it was very, very weird at the time. Like I said, probably as a rational explanation, but it felt weird. And the other one just quickly was the same apartment, same situation. He had recently died and there were was one of these birthday candle that I don't know, when you light it are whatever, it starts like playing a little song. I don't know if you have to hit a switch on thing. It's got a little electronic thing I'm abob on, but it's a candle. You light it on an you blow it out, but it's okay. But it's got a novelty thing. Right. Yes, I've never seen one. Yes, new to me. It just makes a little sounds like a like a music box sort of sound coming out of it and they had it on like the frame of the door, like above the doorway, just kind of propped up there. It just started playing and no one had touched it, no one had lit it, but it was from his birthday cake the year before or whatever. So they were just it was too weird situations. And then in that apartment we had been we found out later that the same room where he had committed suicide, there was another the ten I don't know if it was the tenant right before us or the one before that had passed away in that same room, but from some kind of heart attack or something. But yeah, there was some death in that apartment. It was it was strange. Do you feel like it was like maybe haunted, like at the time at the time? No, yeah, you know. Did you really think it was a sign? I think, yeah, back first of all, back then I was a little more open minded with things. The world hadn't crushed my sense of under and magic yet, you know. Okay, right, but now I just the I don't really believe in any of that. Should I just have never there's never been any concrete evidence, anything recorded, anything scientifically proven, nothing that couldn't be explained. Ever, ever, throughout history throughout scientific history. So I'm starting to think maybe there's nothing to get worked up about. But I don't know. The argument is that you can't maybe you can't measure things like that. Maybe there's no scientific way to to, you know, quantify that. But whatever it is, I felt freaked out in that apartment and I already gotten a fuck out of it. I this is enough. The singing doll is one thing. Yeah, well, then the candle started singing. Jeeze you later, fucking woe, I'm out. It was a little strange, but but whatever. I...

...nowadays I'm just like there was some malfunctioning fucking birthday presents or whatever that apartment. That's I don't know. If so, I will never know. You know, it could have been same thing with my dream. I mean I really don't know. Yeah, and that's why I want to implore anybody who's listening, if you have any input on getting contacted by someone from the great beyond, if you've ever had one of these spooky experiences, or if you just want to shoot the breeze with us, be sure to reach out and contact us. It's easy to do so. You can find us on twitter at selling out show on facebook at selling out show. One you can leave. It's a voice mail at seven seven, four seven hundred one, one thousand nine hundred and ninety three. No singing candles will answer, or you can drop us an email at selling out show at GMAILCOM. We want to hear from you. This summer. You want to beat the heat, not your budget. Plus, with all the activities outside, people having fun, they don't want to be around a filthy smoker. This seas is perfect for quitting cigarettes, and the best way to do that is by visiting the fine folks down at northland favor company. They make it easy to shop for eloquent supplies and more, with three retail locations and so far going North Dakota, warhead and by midgie Minnesota. Or, if you still working on that beach bod, visit their website at Northland vaporcom. All of their products are dike, tone and artificial sweetener free. So, whether you're a new or an experienced vapor rest easy is you sit poolside knowing that you're not pumping yourself full of poison. So what are you waiting for? Fill that Kabana full of clouds and shop at Northland Vapor Company. Today some products contain nicotine. Adults only. NY. Are you ready to potter? I'm always ready to party, man. All right, great, because I'm not. I've got no figure, I've got no VM, I've got nothing, man, I can't do it anymore. But back in the day we were fucking animals, absolute fucking beasts. We've got stories up the Yahoo, yeah, about the parties we attended, the things that we did. I mean you brought up to me you previously. There was one that we had called the weeklong party, right, and if a party for one gets its own title, and in that title it says it lasts for an entire seven days, you know it had to be something else. Yeah, but before I start talking about any of our exploits, I do want to mention is funny that, you know, then parties were they built up your cred amongst your friends. They were stuff of legend. You just want to talk about them all the time, and I know we're only talking like a couple years later. Yeah, you're seventeen or something, you're nineteen, you still like, Oh, can you believe that fucking ranger we had? Yeah, but still it was pretty wild that that's what we used to do. And now you just go, what kind of fucking dummy? What kind of fucking war on did it was? I you know, yeah, yeah, it was fun at the time, but yeah, when you get older, like damn, and it's like because a lot of damage. We Oh, yes, it was super like, I don't know, you're dangerous and once, once you explain the the premise of the weeklong party and then you kind of see more of the consequences in the issues why it was so stupid. But I don't take it away. I thank you, thanks a bunch. We had a friend, I had a really good friend growing up. I'm just going to say his first name to protect them, not innocent, basically to protect the guilty. It's when I should have said the first time around, but again, I am still an idiot. Who got to house it for one of his teachers. He was a teacher's pet. The teacher absolutely loved him, even though he was kind of a fucking fuck up. I mean to be honest with you, I don't know what kind of face he put on with this woman whatever, but anyway, she was the Eddie Haskell of the go this. Thank you very much, and she's like, okay, can you house it for me? I'm going away for a week, and he of course agreed. So the whole time he knew, he absolutely knew, that he was going to throw a party in our house. Yeah, and I was there with him the first night she left and she left a note, and with that note was clues for money, and the money was to buy the dog because she left her dog as well. Dog Food. If there's any emergencies or anything like that, you need to eat. He wanted to order some food or something, so she hit money and like potted plants or stuff that. We ran around the house Giddy. WHO's like a moneys weed? Yes, exactly. Well, money for Beer, money for drugs, money for whatever, not for dog food. So he we immediately that night, started drinking and he started calling some folks and before you knew it, people started showing up and, knowing that the owner of the house was wasn't going to be home for a week, people just decided not to leave. Right. Yeah,...

...and would party wakes. Yeah, right, and the party raged on all night, all day for whoever was whatever cycle you were in. If you felt like drinking during the day, drink during the day and pass out at night. Just don't pass out in a public place or you will be sharpied, yea, and written on and everything else. But still, you know, certain rules applied. There was a lot of drugging, boozing fucking going on in that house, all around the board. And then the people who were closest to Mike, like me, got their own rooms. Yep, we're assigned our own areas and everything the I. Yeah, yeah, and I got the kids room, which had a super nintendo in it, I believe, which was like fucking the Shit, you know. Yeah, that's how we would do this. Sobriety test. If you could drive. We had this airplane game. I forgot the name of it now. What happens? Something like that. And if you could land the plane on the on the battleship, you were good enough to drive. That was seriously, this was our you know, our our mandate. It's something I guess, and I got wicked hammered. I took the Teddy Ruxman, a full size teddy Rux, but not like one of the new ones. It's like one of those smaller ones. This is the old school, big ass one that took a cassette in it, and I fucking thought it was insulting me or something. That's how wasted I was, and I trashed it in front of everybody. I had this fucking all out brawl with an inanimate object, the strange and Teddy Ruckspen. Destroyed it, like, I mean, I fucking pounded, I'm in duct taped it to a ceiling fan so the remnants of the thing was spinning so people could witness my fucking, the results of my mayhem. Right, but hey, again, this was something that people talked about forever after that. Right. You're like, oh, man, because you know I used to go by LD. I still do amongst our friends. Right. And did you see what ld you do the fucking titty Ruxpen, those fucking savage man, and I loved it. I was always walking around in a bathrobe, right, I thought I was fucking Hugh halfner and stuff. Yeah, there were. There were fights, I mean or we had town to town rivalries. Fight in the driveway, the socials and the Greaser's. Yes, sharks in the jets he go, but kids from one town didn't like the kids from another town. It's always as a brawl in the parking lot, Polissa being called, I mean on and on. And of course there was other people doing crazy shit, but I don't maybe I'll have them on the show someday and they can speak for themselves. I don't know how much dirty laundry I want to air for everybody else. Yeah, there was one woman. I will tell this again. Names will not apply here. We had a friend who was a virgin, okay, and he was sixteen, some eighty years old, and the rest of US thought that was fucking lame. Yeah, there was a girl at the party, yeah, who was a little frisky, okay, with some of the guys, and so we she was in a room and she was ready for whatever. Yeah, so I don't do a terrible job describer, I apologize, but we're like, dude, get in there. She's way to fucking go. Tonight is a night you lose it, man, lose a virginy. He's like no, no, I'm all set with all the American pie or something. Yeah, right, basically, and we like no, get in there, and he's like no, that's not how I want to lose my shit. I'm not interested in that whatsoever. We physically picked him up, dragged him. He is clawing it door JAM's refuses to go boom, slam the door like don't come out for fifteen more minutes, really, and we're holding the door, shaking it. We leave the door in man for like a couple minutes. Next you know, he runs out like it's fucking ass is on fire, which which, interestingly enough, it turns out we knew another guy who did take advantage of the situation. It's like well, if you're not going to get the job done, I'll do it. He did, and a certain part of his you know, anatomy, did catch on fire. What, in a manner of speaking, by catching an STD. So you know, the thing, the most important thing that that guy did, our virgin friend, yeah, was fucking high tail at. I can you imagine that? If that ended up being his first that's like, oh dude, that's like the movie kids remember, where it's like Oh, yeah, yeah, you're gras and the last yeah, get yeah again. I'm not trying to condone that behavior. That was teenage, you know. Yeah, she need antics. Yeah, Nigans, thank you. And this is back in the the S and everything, and of course we had no brain cells, right, and we're killing them constantly. Yeah, I remember stopping by, I mean, I wasn't. I didn't frequent it, obviously, but I I think I stopped by there twice and just with with one of our friends. And Yeah, I remember Mike, the host, walking around in chain mail top, like he was walking around in chain mail. I remember that. And and then I remember the theme song to Flash Gordon Always, yes, Queen Song, always being blared and everyone would do the especially you do...

...the fresh. Yeah, but that was like our yeah, the theme song for the week. I don't know how it got picked. Yeah, I really don't. And but hey, it worked. Everybody liked it. fucking it was a jam. So it's cool. You know, there's people who are sent to the hospital that week or people who broke lamb. Seriously, someone broke his leg in the bathroom. On and on. They broke their leg in the bathroom. Yeah, he got into an argument with another friend. He got jumped in the leg up busted. He's on crutches from months afterwards. The effects of this weeklong party. HMM, we're just insane. I even remember I went home. Yeah, I was just burnt out, and this is like day five or something, and next thing you know, I barely got any sleep and our friend, big Dave. Yeah, was knocking on my door and he'd stolen a car. Yeah, he didn't know whose cart was, he just found it. A had keys in it. Yeah, and he took it to come pick me up, to bring me back. And even then I was irritated. I'm like, you serious, you stole a car to bring me back to this fucking party. He's like, we need you, man, come on, he's got to come back. We got pure grain. fucking people's eyeballs are bleeding. Is the best fucking say to year. But your own. I guess what was it? I went back. He of course, he's so, you know, and as your duty, as the week went down, a winded down rather, hmm. Mike got left alone. HMM, and he really had I'm going to tell you, he had a good time, of course, being the ring master, course, but when the owner of the home got home, yeah, it's time to pay the Piper. He was in the fucking worse trouble of his life because there was a senior citizen who lived there and someone used up all of her oxygen tanks. Oh me. Oh yeah, I mean I don't know who is fucking huff and oxy shits and giggles, but somebody did. Broken those doors, broken windows, broken the dog at fucking Pete On. Oh my God, that's there was a there was a destroyed Teddy ruxpan doll. Somehow Teddy was hanging from the ceiling fan. I mean, if you walked in there with a black light there would be shit you could unsee. Yeah, but he ended up having to go to court for the whole thing. Wow, and he even told me that there was a teddy broken teddy ruxpan on the police report. They want to be reimbursed for and I said, well, Fuck Wown't bring me down with you, motherfucker. Yeah, but yeah, he got in a big trouble for that. But again here we are, yeah, all these years later, talking about this fucking party. And I mean there was more. We could go by. You know, there's time constraints in a podcast. Yeah, maybe I'll bring it up again in the future, but for now that is the yeah, you know, the nut the core of everything. He wasn't the teacher's pet. That's longer after that. Huh. No, he was completely fucked. Like I said, he had to go to court and everything else, and she was not happy. Nor would I mean imagine if that happened to you or me. How fucking mad would you be then? Your House was, you is as a fucking, you know, whorehouse, fucking drinking den, drug den for a bunch of teenage kids for an entire week while you're off enjoy your vacation. You know. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me about that. Mike would do that, though, if you know, people knew him, he's he was just kind of us I don't know. Yeah, Ye had a habit of just kind of like causing his instigator kind of, you know, like Oh, definitely, but it was always up to something. But again, this is years ago. He is a change, man, of course. Of course. Yeah, we're all growing up. Seems to be like the theme of this episode that, you know, we get wiser with age. We're just talking about the friends we missed, who we could talk to now and how everything would be different. So don't blame me, don't make me feel shitty about it, but I did want to share this story with all of you. And Yeah, man, but that fills our quota for tales of debauchery. Yeah, we're going to take a quick commercial break and when we return, nate's notes looking to experience ultimate relaxation in relief of chronic pain, you need to try the healing power of CBD with hemp bombs. Visit HIMP Bombscom for a wide range of pure, premium CBD products, from oils, capsules, gummies, pain freeze and more. Hemp bombs has all you need in store. Better sleep has proven to boost your immune system and if you were a love and live with discomfort, CBD is a natural, organic remedy that works. Start living your best life today with m bombs. Fans of the show can save twenty percent off their entire order by using the code selling out a check out. Once again, that's code...

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...the public consciousness, that it only makes sense that it will return to rear its ugly head once again in the future. The way tastes change and the constant tendency for artists to innovate makes it only natural that there is a finite shelf life for any musical fad, especially in the field of Pop music. And since musical artists tend to have a specific look or style that either inspires or is inspired by the current Cultural Zitgeist, depending on the artist, it only makes sense that there will be a time when the whole package of said artist will make people cringe after a certain length of time. But what also seems more and more apparent as popular music as a concept gets older and older is that even that cringe factor eventually fades away and pass a morphs into retro old school can either be an insult or just a descriptive term, depending on the intent of the speaker, kind of like the term Jew. You know, think about it. There are always retro bands breaking through that sound like an achronisms when surrounded by other pop singles filling the air waves. I remember I was like eleven or twelve when the Black Crows released their cover of Otis reddings hard to handle. On a side note, it never fails to amaze me how many bands there are whose breakout hit is a cover of an existing song, but you know what, that's topic for another Nat's note. The Black Crows went on to release a ton of Classic Blues Rock Singles, which have all not only charted but are all genuinely well written songs. And I guess enough time had passed for frilly Paisley shirts and actual bell bottoms to finally be cool again. Yeah, the s marked the end of the S unhipness sentence. That seems to be the formula. The previous decade is uncool, but the one before it is okay to be influenced by or to show respect to. That's why, during that era of grunge and Electronica, the s seemed so grossly loud and excessively neon colored. The mullet suddenly looked so trashy, the virtuosic guitar soloing of someone like Ingvey Mounstein was basically being scoffed at by kids who could kind of string together three or four bar chords and start their own Nirvana wanna be alternative band. Any of the synth driven electro or hip hop of the s that got any play at all was only being sampled ironically to throw in like Dj sets and make people giggle while they danced the acid or ecstasy through their systems. It was only after the turn of the century that you saw bands that were genuinely inspired by and showing respect to the sweet melodies of bands like tears for fears into petch mode. Bands like Duran, Duran and new order started drawing huge crowds again on tour. Even bands like Wasp and Striper, Cinderella and vixen got back on the road. The White Snake Song, here I go again, seems to be everywhere, and my Stepson Joey loves it and things of it as this classic rock song that it probably is. I just have a hard time not smirking a little when I hear it. Some things I'll always find a little corny. There have even been bands that bite the style of s acts, not just audibly, but visually in a fashion sense. Just as a black crows brought the whole feel of a s rock bands to the era of November rain, excess and like, I don't know, see and see music factory pop. A few bands like the darkness and Steel Panther were thoroughly embracing leopard print outfits, hairspray and like silk scarves as they shamelessly belt it out. There updated glam metal, complete with frilly Guitar Solos. Speaking of Guitar Solos, I I will say that the new generations appreciation for that era of our peggios and finger tapping has done a world of good for the genre of technical death metal. It's right there in the name. The stuff is seriously complex and meticulously written. No reason to feel silly about being guitar nerd. The competition is fierce nowadays...

...and I would put up the guitarist of any number of tech death bands, from arch spire to the zenith passage, against Invey Melmstein or Joe Satriani any day. But back to the subject at hand. One area of s music that has inspired a lot of bands as well this millennium is in the area that spans postpunk to like synthpop or even goth. You can hear evidence of this in bands like the killers, and the icy sound of S. synths found their way into countless bands like crystal castles or even Canadian nerd star child in potential missus Elon Musk grimes. There was even that period in the early two thousands when it seemed like everyone wanted to be joy division, or at least they aped Ian Curtis's unique vocal style, the most popular of which being Interpol. I'm not particularly thrilled about the prospect of more bands like rat or quiet riot, but if you're going to bring back the sound of the cure or killing joke, or even to Pasch mode, I say bring it on. There are some parts of the s that I personally never fell out of love with, and it's good to hear a band like this week's suggested listening Drab Majesty, do it so well. They take elements of bands like slow dive in the chameleons, but add a layer of those. I see synths, and we've in a persona that references ufo cults like the Unarians and the heavens gate people. Draft Majesty is a band that conjures up not just nostalgia for the s but a really inhuman, almost alien image. Their style fits right into my taste. So as much as I complain about the nostalgia industry and what low hanging fruit it can be to rehash things from the past that are already proven successful, there are definitely some aspects of the past that I don't mind seeing further explored. So that was my longwinded little Ode to not just the s but to the fact that things have their cycle. They're cool, they're cheesy and how did we ever like them? And then they're retro and cool again. So it's like there's just that pattern. But I'm happy that we're seeing a lot of these post punk and kind of synth poppy sort of bands coming back because I don't know, Dave, how did you feel about the Drab Majesty Song? Did you dig it at all? I did dig it, all right, I've recently had got one. Finally, you did. You did? I've I mean I didn't really listen to lyrics, moly, yeah, but just a tone and the vibe from the song I enjoyed because I've recently been wondering. I'm like, how come there's not a band out there, or not that I've heard, that just summons up the s as the s right, doesn't try to incorporate in like a new style like you kind of alluding to, or just little elements of it, but really just brings it all the table. And I heard a lot of that here. I mean it could have been the heavy reverb going on in the guitars and stuff. Yeah, but it actually reminded me a little bit, not completely, but tin machine. Okay, so I heard a little bit of those elements going on and I dug it. I thought was a very good pick. You mentioned. Did you like it, and got all excited when I said yes, because normally you're picking these tunes and they're not really you know, yeah, my alle but this one, this one, I definitely did enjoy. All Right, I'm glad, man, because I feel like this is an example of one of the like the ile of a band that you and I would have shared appreciation for. Like we were both cure fans. We both dig a bunch of two passion mode stuff. We could, we can kind of. We we have diverging tastes, but there are a few things that we agree on, and those are some of them. You know, so I figured this one would be somewhat up your alley. Anyway, I'm glad it is, for next week we will check out a band that I briefly mentioned, along with zeal and ardor a few episodes ago.

AL sest is a band from France that create beautiful atmospheres, and this song, which is the title track from the codeama album, is a perfect example of what they do. Again, it's called Kodama Ko d am a by the band Al Set, which is Al Cest, but of course I'll post a link to it on facebook to make it easier to check it out and we'll have a little chat about it next episode. What the fuck are you doing, man? What the fuck is this? Listen, I just told you I was digging the s vibes and now you going back to the whole European death metal scene. No, you, I think this is I'm not going to even bring up the fact that it's it comes from a black metal start, because it's so far removed from that. If I hadn't mentioned them during that that segment, I don't think you'd even know that. That's where they're their influences lie, because they've come so far. I'll get into that next week. Yeah, I have a feeling it'll at least be more up your alley than a lot of the stuff that I've picked. So okay, I'll get it. I'll give you that, because even the zeal and ardor stuff to me wasn't traditional when you said it was black metal or something like. I mean, I get it, but I don't, you know, I mean not being a fan of the genre like, because there's other things in play there, right. So you know, I'm sure that's the case here as well, because you're not just giving us like stereotypical not as as fucking scream core metal, whatever label you want to throw on it. There's always going to be a little twisting there. Yeah, that's elsas to actually doesn't have any shouting or it's all singing. It's you'll, you'll hear it, but it's a lot more easy to listen to than even zeal and ardor. It's. Hey, listen, if I don't like it, the following nate's note, you got to do some Michael McDonald for me. All right, we'll get a hit me some the youg or hit me with some Yap rock or something in those kind of ways, you know. But Hey, you know what, though, we are nearing the end of the show and before we do go, I did want to mention a couple quick things before I forget. One is I would really want to thank one of our listeners, Jack The hungry guy, for always being there when we need him, giving us feedback, input everything else like that. And you know, just want to say thank you to Jack. We appreciate it, even though we knew him back in high school. HMM. And he kind of freaks me out now because you know I mean, I don't like the facebook. I'm not down with a facebook, but I hopped on the other day to check out some of the selling out stuff that you post and I saw him on there and he looks like Dustin Pedroy it to me now I see that. I can you do I thinks it from a brick wall or something. Maybe that is like shades of fenway pack going on there. I don't know, Jack, but you're looking spelt baby, looking good, looking good. And I also want to say another listener to the show and a guy who produces a wonderful podcast of his own, the professor frenzy show. His name is Jerry Green and he's wanted to hear your band. He asked about it on the twitter and I was like, well, maybe if we poke and prod nate he'll post something. I man. I. I've seen some clips on your personal facebook page and there's some good jams, one of which your shirtless, so you must been really hot. I was concerned for you because it's summer, so I'm thinking all the mosquitoes must be trying to bite your nips. So put a fucking shirt on, you sweaty animal. But still the hunting. Yeah, I think it's the hottest day of the year in Massachusetts, so I can't blame you. And when we were kids used to play naked, so at least he had hands on. What post some of those? You have post some of those videos on the selling out page. Will ye or wonderful is some yeas I say, facebook lesson whatever thing for me, I'm humble. I don't like the you know. To me I'm like, Oh, I'll find some videos that are the least embarrassing rather than yeah, dude, an'll find some cool videos. Yeah, I understand you write exactly. You're not trying to promote yourself at not over the top here, but you should some good music there, buddy. It's good. It's good. Yeah, tunes do. We actually had a really, really good show. I won't get into it, but we had a great show today. Was One of the best ones we've had. So I don't know. Maybe somebody made a video of it today or took some recordings of it, and if so, I'll post those. You won't get into it, but you just get into it. I did get into it. See that. That's fucking promotion right there, baby. I like it, just like I like all the listeners out there. If you know what, I don't like it, I fucking love you all right, virtual hugs for all of you. Thanks so much for listening. We appreciate it. Until next time, I am Dave. That is nate, and this has been selling out wh...

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