Selling Out Show
Selling Out Show

Episode 27 · 3 years ago

Ep.#27 Peel Session


It's Selling Out's 27th episode, and there are some subjects loosely based on our hosts' relationships.
Nate's girlfriend has brought home a new addition to their already ridiculous number of pets, and has also started to drift away from her skeptic roots into a more holistic path, much to Nate's chagrin. Dave brings up the issue of housework, and how his household tasks seem to garner a bit less enthusiasm from the Mrs. than he would hope for. We also get our obligatory update on Dave's ongoing battle with low testosterone,
Then comes a discussion on the controversial final season of one of our generation's most popular and beloved TV shows, Game of Thrones. Nate, in particular, has some strong feelings on the direction the writers decided to take the show as it wraps up.
Finally, Nate explores the legacy of John Peel, the influential British radio DJ who introduced his audience to countless bands that may have otherwise remained undiscovered. And in honor of John Peel, Nate decides to add something new to Nate's Notes going forward...

1:08- Nate's new furry family member
3:48- The smells we love
8:26- Dave's unnecessary testosterone update
9:14- House husbands- today's unsung heroes
13:23- A skeptic goes holistic
19:00- Game of Thrones: a post-mortem
28:55- Nate's Notes (Peel Sessions, and their namesake)
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...think of a bonus while you telling me about that is, you know, if you ate a cat or a dog, people really frown on that, but a bunny, who gives a fuck? Rose at motherfucker up. They make rabbit stew. The you go, you stop and eat it, so I guess there is a benefit if he turns out to be a Shitty pet. We got we got stupid they I got a random question for you. I was recently laying a bed, awake late at night, as I commonly do, just thinking about random shit. And you know, if you could can a smell or can an odor, so you could just crack it open just a it is getting that smell of something to make you feel so comfortable, so happy and just so good and relaxed. What would that smell be? Jeez, we'll tell you what it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be Hippie Dippie Pechuli. No, I have do Petculi oil is one of those smells that I that brings back a lot of memories, but not all of them pleasant, just from the psycho hippie girls. I used to know back in there. Yeah, any way to get but truly to me is like just if you smell it, you just smell daddy issues. It's like mad dog, was it? Mad Dog Two thousand and twenty? Yeah, same thing, but truly mad dog two and twenty. That a recipe for a girl that's had a lot of emotional problems right down to have a good time. Yeah, well, let me see back to your question. I feel like it's probably I have a lot of good memories with MMM, I like food smells. It would probably end up being a food smell. Maybe maybe the smell of curry, which sounds strange, but it does always have. Yeah, I always have good memories of curry and, although that might make me sick, if I in the wrong state of mind, it's like open up this can sent it's like Oh, wrong, wrong decision there. So I don't know either curry or damn man, this is this is you hit with the tough one here. I got know, told you is random. It is completely just off the cuff here. So I want to see what your first answer would be, and by saying you know curry, that is definitely not one I would have expected. Yeah, well, where do you fall on this spectrum of odors? I would say the morning do because some of my happiest memories are when you're camping or when I used to camp. I haven't camped and God, over a decade, but as a teenager, a guy in my s, I used to love opening that tent and like thirty in the morning, everything's wet and you get the smell of the woods just kind of permeating your membranes. Yeah, man, it just made me so happy and when I was when I was up, laying in bed, like I told you, thinking about this, I was like that smell just totally takes me to a happy place and helps me relax. I just love it. Right on, man, Dude. That's a good one. Man, I feel I feel like I'm like Oh, Glutton. It's like Oh, food, man, food, well, I'm I'm hungry. Maybe that's what it's going to say. It's definitely better than curry. I'm pretty sure if we took a pole on this, the consensus would be curry or morning do. I'm going to take the do dude. It's funny, though. Just quickly curry my my brother in his adventures in Colorado. You know. He's been in Colorado for years now and he's had a couple apartments that he's lived in over the over the years, and one of them, the landlady, as he was looking at the apartment and finalizing the lease issues and all that sheet, she had a special little Adendom on her lease to say you agree, you know, no pets, know this, no that, and no curry. You Will Not Cook Curry Food in my the specifically curry, and because it's one of those smells that permeates and does get into things, apparently in the neighbors me, you know, smell, it's you know, but yeah, man, what a weird thing to have on a fucking lease. Like no pets, know this, no that. No, you know, orgies on Sunday for some reason, and no goddamn curry. Well, I would totally allow the orgies. I'd be all for that curry. I can...

...understand. We once had a friend whose neighbor downstairs cut constantly cooked fish heads and it just stunk. You lived on the second floor all the time, like what does that smell dude? He's like, Oh, my neighbor just happens to have a hankrint for fish heads. He's frying them up. Oh yeah, so I can relate to the land person. Well, you say it was a landlady. Yeah, I'm putting that in the least. It is a little bit anny, unusual, but acceptable, if you ask me. Sure, sure, now, if you have any thoughts on this, maybe you want to tell us what you'd like to smell. It's an easy thing to do. You can reach out to us on twitter at selling out show, on facebook at selling out show one, send us an email selling out show at gmailcom, or you can leave this a voice mail at seven, seven, four, seven o one, one thousand nine hundred and ninety three, which was a magnificent year, if I do say so myself. But but listen, you want to crack something open, you want to with let us know what it is. We want to hear from you. No, boddy has to know, but we've done a put on a show here to useless love. Your mom losing hair, chunky pond Dave's are necessary? Testosterone up, Daby? Oh, thanks for asking. Still Low man boobs, soft and supple NY is. You well know, I'm a stay home father, which is a role I enjoy my life. My wife goes out and earns and I get to stay at home and do podcast with you. So you're welcome. But you know, here's here's something I've noticed about my wife, and I think about a lot of women when it comes to to the man's role being at home, right, is that when I would work and I'd come home and find out that she had cooked and clean there, you know, just did household stuff. Man, was I a happy fucking camper? Dude. Yeah, I was like this is fucking great. A praiser right, thank her. I'm like, this is wonderful. You know, you are the pillar that keeps this whole fucking place standing. Yet I I've noticed when I do the same thing and I'm kind of waiting for praise and like that puppy at the door panting, like who she's coming home. He's gonna be so happy when you see what I did. Yeah, she's kind of like, well, that wasn't really necessary. You could have done something more productive with you day and man, my fucking my esteem just goes boom right to the pit of my stomach and I feel like I feel like you're just shit. But I wonder, you know, is that kind of like a double standard thing? Going on here or what I yeah, man, I feel like there's something to that, because I noticed that too. It's like I get a little more, you know, credit. I guess I do. I do my share of housework and I clean the stalls at the you know, the barn for our horses and whatnot. But but I definitely noticed that. It's one of those things where, yeah, yeah, I'm thrilled when I come home and it's like it's beautiful, you know something, whatever it is, there's one little project on. I'm like, look at that, this place looks great. But yeah, this it's definitely deflating when you've done a bunch of Shit and then it's just kind of like, you know, why'd you do that? You know, or that could have waited, or could you know that? You know, that's yes, that's exactly what happens. Oh, you scrub the toilets. You got to save that for the end of the week. Yeah, or this needs to be done instead. You know, why don't you do this? You know, but yeah, man, that's that's frustrating because I listen, I am lucky. I'm very lucky because I've been doing a lot more writing recently and my wife is very supportive of my creative endeavors, so I'm very happy about that. But at the same time I want to you know, she's bringing home the Bacon, right. I want to make her happy and just cleaning and...

...stuff isn't doing it. But I'm also kind of like a neat freak. Yeah, I can't sit and right or even now, podcast with you or anything unless I have certain things in place. Yeah, if I've got crap like toys on the floor or dishes in the sink, I freaked the fuck out. I'm like, well, can't do that, I got a clean first. Yeah, yeah, well, I'm similar with that. I I used to be pretty lax about that sort of thing, but I definitely, yeah, it drives me nuts being surrounded in clutter and this and that. You know, I definitely have my little my little rituals, if you will, before we sit down to do this podcast, because, yeah, it's it's frustrating. You know, we're trying to talk I'm being distracted by this, you know, pile of dishes over in the on the fucking end table or whatever it is. It's just yeah, today I was scrubbing walls because they looked a little dingy to me. So it's like I'm with you, man. You know you reassure this. Because they were dingy or because it wasn't blood on there. Would you kill, nate? Would you kill it's hard to get blood off the balls, I can imagine. Sure, we all know vaping saves lives, but now I want to save you some money. Visit Northland Vaporscom, probably made in North Dakota. Northland vapors line of eliquids contain no artificial sweeteners, are dike tone free and won't gunk up your coils, whether you're quitting smoking or an experienced vapor northland carries a variety of flavors and hardware, making it a onestop shop for all your vaping needs. Northland believes quality doesn't need to be costly, and right now you can use coach selling out nineteen and save nineteen percent off. There already amazing prices. So what are you waiting for? Getting your head into the clouds and shop online at Northland vaporcom or visit their locations in morehead and be midgey Minnesota. Some products contain nicotine. Adults only. My girlfriend carly and I have both always been skeptical people. We're not religious people. Carly comes from a very religious family and she's kind of swung the other way, pendulum like, and we're both, you know, we neither of US have a lot of patients for that sort of Woo Woo, whether it's and to top it off, Carly's also been in healthcare for her whole life. Share her whole career has been nursing, hospice, even working in insurance, things like that. It's all been surrounded, you know, she's worked in facilities, hospitals, whatnot. She's done with science. Yes, she's seen a lot of fucking people die. Yeah, and she's seen the effects of real medicine and real things. And when we see stories on holistic medicine, homeopathy, Raiky, all these things that, you know, a good poor and of our society falls back on and is there's always this this segment of the population that's that's you know, there's a huge market. Is what I'm trying to say. For you know, whether it's homeopathy and and Cristel's and all this. Yeah, sure, that's a lot of believers. Absolutely, yeah, and I, as our listeners probably know, if they've been listening, I was just on a trip to Colorado. I've been back for a few weeks now. But while I was gone, you know, I'm on the phone with carly and she's telling me, you know, I was reading up on a few of these these alternative medicines, and that there is some benefit to some of this stuff, and I'm starting to get a little I'm like, Oh, where are we going with this? But but I've had faith because she's always been, like I said, a skeptical person, of a levelheaded person. So I get home, man, and there's the first thing I noticed is a certificate. Since for Reiki, carly went and got her certificate as a reiki master. Now, wait, Reiki's when you go outside with the leaves and you know I'm up right, that's Reki, not raking Reiki. Oh Shit,...

...yeah, which to me I mean carly is, like I said, to be fair, she's done more research into this stuff than I have. I've the limited research I have has led me to believe that a lot of this is is still I'm still not quite on board. We right, but carly went and, like I said, did a lot more research, did some work and did some purchasing of things and she's she's trying to work that into her personal regimen healthwise. She's taking different extracts because, to be fair, she's had me read some things and there is validity to a lot of this stuff. It's just there's that line of which one has some validity to it and which one is a like the reiki thing, I'm still very hissy because that, from what I understand, Reiki is finding the energy fields. You know your a lot of what I understand of Reiki is you're not even touching the person. Your hands are suspended over a person and you know, Moura Energy Right, shit like that. Oh so. So I'm a little suspicious still. But wait, can I ask you a question here. At she had a certificate in two weeks. I means she must have graduated a class. Are you sure they don't just get the certificate when you buy a bunch of Shit? It's like, I thank you not. I cannot doubt for that. You've graduated. Congratulations your here's your complimentary reiki certificate. Exactly. Yes, well, I can't speak to that. I just know that I come back and my house smells like burnt sage. She started burning and and I gave her a hard time about that. I said, you know what, what are you trying to to clean out the evil spirits and this house? Is that what it is? Get some puzzle of the vibes from burning stage. She told me that my cats are fighting. Oh, there may be a battle here anyway, little detailer. WHO'S gonna win? WHO's gonna win in the fat one of the ugly? Oh Man, the fat one for sure. Oh yes, sheer weight, but the ugly ones got some get some fight in them. So some might anyway go get a hung legs to maybe we need to burn some sage to get some positive vibes in here. But my point is, when I asked Carley about what way is she burning this sage, is, you know, as she falling into this whole spiritual energy and what I she said that no, actually sage, when you burn it, has anti microbial effects. It's it's positive that it covers up a lot of smells, but it actually does do something. I don't know, I'd have to read more up on it, but but apparently there's more validity to some of this stuff than I initially thought and Carly's looking at it, as you know, trying some new stuff healthwise for herself, possibly getting into it as a business and reading up on it, because you know, there is a big market for this stuff, and she's she's looking into it as both a, you know, change in her life, like a positive change, and a potential different career paths. So, you know, more power to her. I'm still not quite on board and could have been way worse. Dude. You kind of came back from vacation and founder in bed with a fucking dude. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess offered to makes I made some changes and said she's gonna like. I got a fucking degree, motherfucker. What did you do? You know right, that's true. As this is true. I mean on a potton call smoke. You burned your own sage. That's what you burned. A few brain sales while you were out there. Okay, Nay, I am not up to date whatsoever. I stopped watching last season. I figure I'll binge the final season of something called game of thrones, but I have seen a line spoilers fucking everywhere. People don't give a fuck. Even when it's airing, they're like, Oh my God, are you did this and everything else. I kind of have a just what's going on, but still mad the fucking outrage. I can't believe it. People are signing petitions saying they want the the whole season redone, and I mean it's just to me it's madness because as a fan, if something sucks, you just turn it off. You...

...don't go fucking out of your way to sign a fucking petition. If you're going to do something like that, doude some good in the world rather than, you know, something shitty. But still you are a viewer, you are currently viewing. So I want your opinion right now. Is Is it any good? All right, so I started watching that show, if you remember, with you back first episode years ago. You were like this is great new show, game of thrones. We watched the first episode because it had just come out. I was Hook I used to go to your apartment every week to watch it, if you remember, and we watched pretty much all season, the first season. I was hooked. I have stayed with it. So my my issue is that, when you've invested so much time into this story and what you love about it is that it's so well written, it's so logically written, the characters actually do things that aren't like this Hollywood sort of trite. They're just, you know, it's real consequences to things. Characters die, people betray each other. There's it's very it's very real. But the problem is, as our listeners, if they watch the show, they may know, they're based on a series of books and I've read all the books that are available. The books have not reached their conclusion. They're still supposedly two more books coming. So the show right has passed where the books are. So the source material is no longer there for the writers to to draw from. Now the problem is the writers are showing us that they you know, they I think they were trying to do something interesting. I don't know. I don't know if we want to do the whole spoiler thing here, but but I I will just say that I am disappointed. I feel like even last season I was getting the vibe that the writing was falling off and it wasn't as as the quality wasn't there. But this season, dude, it's been a Goddamn shit show. It's just I mean, I respect they're trying to do something really dark and unexpected. As I said, I don't want to spoil it for listeners. But the last, last episode, Can I spoil it for you? Sure I know what happens. We Wi named Naria and Airess, yeah, and De Narest, Denarius, and it whatever, the mother of Dragon. Yeah, anyway. So I just want to say that in like a dramatic fashion, just I gues said saddle the show. But the thing is is it was oh she turned heel. Oh No, how could you do this? How she could? How could you do that? To me it made the ultimate sense, and I haven't even seen the season. Like what to me, that is spot on right. My only thing, and I can, I can relate to with some of the viewers that are currently watching it, is that everything's been Russian. Yeah, yeah, because they said, listen, we only have one six episodes to fucking wrap this motherfucker up, so let's just cram it in there and see what happens. But go do you? I'm sorry, but is that the way you feel about it? Yes, okay, so that when you said that they only have six episodes, last season they only had seven. Why the fuck are you doing that? They they had so many loose ends to tie up these last two seasons. They had so many storylines that and they're big, big reveals, all these things and, as you mentioned, the thing with Danares kind of flipping around, you know, into changing characterwise, like how she is. It could work if they had built up to it more. The problem is, yes, they're cramming it all in. They're trying to. They were all these questions that they were answering, but they're doing it all in a matter of episodes, like a few episodes. They're like answering multiple huge questions in one episode sometimes, and like big things that aren't even answered in the books yet. And why the fuck? Every season's been ten episodes, ten episodes. They get to the most important seasons and they do a seven episode season and a six episode season.

Why don't you just do to at least do the same length seasons as you were? Like, you're you're not only like I think they would have trouble cramming it all into a ten episode season, but instead they're shooting themselves in the foot. By by all, we got to do it in this. It's like, what was that? An exercise in? Like, Oh, we're limiting ourselves. We have to do it in this so it'll be interesting. It's like. I can't think of any reason. My only thought is exit stage left. Do they just want to fucking get get it over, I guess, but but do. This thing was a cash cow. It was it was make it. Maybe that's why they can't afford to pay all these people for the full ten episode seasons. And and actually my thought is that this was all one season, but it ran thirteen episodes instead of ten. So maybe they split it into two seasons rather than you know, and I think that's what they did. I think they had written one long season and said Shit, let's break it in half. And I don't know. So it's frustrating. I'm really pissed off because I was in love with that show. I feel like there's still hope because the books are not out yet and maybe George rr Martin, the writer, will. I'm sure he'll do something a lot smarter and a lot more well thought out than what they've done on the show, even if the storyline goes somewhere. To read the books. I always going to read the books. Now every say the TV you are dude. I've been reading and there's a now they proclaim it's me. There's enough differences where the books are far more, like I said, well written, well thought out and they're amazing, and my only fear is that George are Martin is going to die, because the guys, let's be honest, the guy doesn't look like he's in the best health. I know that's old, that's Hacky. At this point, people have been saying that for a while, like the guy's going to die before he finishes the books. But that's a very real thing and I'll be pissed if this is what I'm left with. This the the only ending of the show, I mean the only ending of the storyline, is what they've given us on HBO, because I'm left with a bad taste of my mouth. The season finale is tonight, for just to tell our listeners where we are, where we're recording this episode and when it's over, basically the season finale will be starting. So I'm be watching that, even though I'm frustrated as fuck with the last few episodes. So I don't know. Welcome to the life of a Comic Book Fan, where continuity, you know all the matters. Now at movies and TV, because in comics, where in listen, I know game of thrones, is it come from. It comes from novels right stead of the sequential art. But the thing is is a lot of the history, we call them reboots, HMM, get restarted and new stories get told, new number ones, and then nothing gets continued anymore. Well, what happened to that story line, man? You know so everything now we call it like head cannon. Okay, whatever exists in your head is truly what happened. So I do recommend that to any of the game of throwne fans out there who are really frustrated with what's going on. What you expected to happen still can't exist in your brain. That is allowed. Setting a fucking petition, wasting that whatever minute and a half of your day demanding that they redo a season, to me is a little fucking overboard. Yeah, I would suggest letting it rest or again, using your time to more positive things. Yeah, maybe send a petition for, I don't know, something that's actually affecting the real world. We clean your toiling, you know, and hope that your wife is, yeah, appreciative. There you go. Best Minute and a half I ever fucking spend. But I will say this too. I recently went to a thrift store and I found the token Lord of the Rings, yes, the trilogy right in one fucking novel. They put them all together and I bought it. It's fifty cents. I fade. What the fuck? I haven't read any of these books since the early s when I was all into swords and saucery, and I brought it home like yeah, this is going to be fucking great, I'm going to read them feel like...

...a kid again, and I's fucking put it aside. I haven't even opened it. I'm like, fucking too much, man. I could probably kill some buddy with the book. Yeah, well, that's the thing. If someone ever breaks into my house, I get a fucking whip it, Adam as hard as humanly possible and fucking crack their skull open. So it said home security system for fifty cents. It's all three and one. Wow, that's going to be a big ASS book, man. Wow, that's what I said. I got fucking seriously injure somebody with that motherfucker. Day from the selling out show. Here to tell you about spunk loob. Spunk loube is a multi award winning mover can't use by professionals in the adult film industry. Spunk is available in hybrid pure silicone, natural and pink. Spunk is made with the highest quality ingredients and is non stating, Hypo allergenic and cleans with ease. Enhance your love life with spun. Right now, spunk loube is by three, get one free. There's no excuse not to give it a try. 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Some bands, like my favorite, Canada's Electro Goth Weirdo's skinny puppy, had dozens of releases between full length albums, EPS, live concert recordings and singles. Collecting all this work became not just a hobby but a genuine long term labor of love. Sometimes I'd find myself in a new city and there would be a record store. I'd make my way over to the s section of their inventory and excitedly flip through the CDs. I always had CDs. Never was cool enough to collect vinyl. Of course, back then, in the S, the vinyl resurgence hadn't yet begun, so records were as obsolete and backwards as eight tracks or Beta Max. So my collection was more or less all compact discs. And when I would be flipping through the skinny puppy CDs at some newly discovered store and suddenly I'd come across the CD single I didn't yet own, or maybe didn't even know about, it was a super specific feeling that I always loved, like finding buried treasure or something, and I'm never experienced that feeling like while typing in a search bar online. So yeah, skinny puppy is only one band whose work I collected. I am asked, a pretty extensive collection over the years, visiting record shops as far away as Brussels, Paris and Amsterdam. When I went on my high school's foreign language trip, many of the bands I was into were underground industrial and electronic groups from Europe. So over there I was able... pick up a lot of stuff I couldn't even find in the US. Man It's strange to feel nostalgic for a time when things were technically so much more difficult. For a music lover collector, I can find all of that shit and much, much more, without getting out of bed and putting on fucking pants now. Many of my most prized CDs are imported versions of albums, which often contain a few tracks not found on the usual US releases. At some point I started noticing that several of my favorite acts had live recordings available, all called Peel sessions. Like the ORB had two different peel sessions discs, one recorded in like nineteen ninety and one in one thousand nine hundred and ninety six. MAPALM death had over three or four peel sessions discs they recorded over the years. As a kid I didn't even know what the term peel sessions referred to. I just knew they were really well produced live recordings, usually consisting of only three or four songs, and it seems like all the bands I listened to had recorded at least one peel session. Eventually I found out that the title refers to one John Peel, a gentleman in Britain with a really long running radio program on BBC Radio One. John Peels started as a pirate radio disc jockey in the late s playing a lot of blues, folk and psychedelic music, giving airtime to underground acts from both the UK and the US. Eventually he got picked up by BBC's new pop music broadcasting wing, BBC Radio One, and quickly garnered a reputation. First showcasing unique and largely unknown bands. When punk rock broken the S, he started playing a bunch of songs off the ramones new debut album during his show. He actually get a lot of complaints initially, including some from his bosses, but John's intuition combined with a bit of a fuck you attitude, led him to continue playing the ramones and other punk bands as they were releasing material. As a result, John Peel was seen as a man on the forefront of the music scene and as a friend two unknown bands with something new to add to the musical conversation. As the years went by, John Peel introduced his listeners to all kinds of cool shit. He would get a lot of material, largely in the form of unsolicited demo tapes, and if he found it interesting, he figured someone else out there might feel the same way. Mind you, I grew up on the other side of the pond, as it were, so I never got to reap the benefits of such a cool, open minded radio show. As I said, my knowledge of the man was limited to the growing number of peel sessions discs peppered throughout my CD collection, but as I've gotten older I've done a bit of research on him and my respect is just grown and grown. Unfortunately, John passed away back in two thousand and four, but there are countless tribute videos and articles devoted to his impact on the music loving population of England. Bands as varied as CARCASS APEX Twi in New Order, Sid Barrett, the cure, prong, smashing Pumpkins, thin lizzy and on and on have all been featured on his show and subsequently all released peel sessions records. I always managed to find interesting music through whatever avenues I had as a kid. A friend would show me some new album he just bought. I'd go see a band I liked and there would be...

...a cool, unfamiliar band opening. I'd even write to the record labels of my favorite bands and ask for catalogs of their other releases, hoping there were other cool acts on their roster. It all worked for me in the days before surfing the web and creating Pandora or spotify stations, but I often wonder what it was like to have a regular show on the radio that was more interested in showcasing genuine musical pioneers and not just playing it safe with stale pop music. This wasn't some obscure show on it like three am on a college station with no broadcasting radius. This was BBC Radio One. I remember on one of my foreign language trips I was talking to our tour guide, a British guy named Richard. I asked him if he had ever heard of some of the English electronic acts. I was into the ORB aw tecker, a x twin, etc. Richard proceeded to blow my mind by telling me that it wasn't uncommon to see a fix twin beach towels dotting the beaches of England in the summertime, a FEX twin who, despite being a huge pioneer and electronic music, had no real audience in the US at the time, but in Britain he had enough buzz around him to warrant pretty broad merchandising tactics like beach towels. Now I don't like it when my favorite acts get over exposed, but it's good to at least see someone with true talent envision get some recognition for once instead of surviving in relative obscurity. and John Peel was a man who had a platform and used it to spot light artists that were really doing something special. The guy died fifteen years ago and a lot of people here in the US probably have no idea who he was, but as a teenager I appreciated the high quality recordings he released of some great bands, and as an adult I'm inspired by his open mind and his desire to share with the public some unique and innovative music. So here's to you, John Peel Day. Do you remember ever having peel sessions discs? Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, yeah, I do know what you're talking about, but I wasn't really familiar with it either. You know, we just assumed it was bands performing with Sunburns, peel those with appeal sessions like this fucking hurts, and I was like, yeah, rock out, motherfucker. Yeah, dude, it sounds. It sound a kind of gross. Yeah, just sound disgusting, peeled sessions. But yeah, I don't know. I had a ton of them and I had no idea what the fuck they were. But now I'm learning. I'm, you know, forty years old and I know all about this guy that died of bucking long time ago. But, dude, I'm in eight years ago. Yeah, I'm glad you're inspired. That's really cool, dude, but it is amazing that you had all these these discs. I mean there's really cool. He collected all this stuff to begin with. Yeah, but beyond that, you had them, but you never really wanted to. Well, then you know what it was from. Yeah, what it meant or to look into the history of it. But now you have. Is Great that you found a point in your life when you you can appreciate. Yeah, it's just it. It would first of all, we didn't have the Internet to look things up like that and I don't know how much it wouldn't be like in a fucking encyclopedia or something. So I had no real way of knowing what the peel sessions term meant. But the fact that's, like I said, so many of these bands that I listened to of way different genres, like, like I said, somebody like carcass and then the cure and then smashing pumpkins and like you know what I mean. And then he did a lot of the first reggae. Yeah, he had a lot of the played a lot of reggae on his show. Apparently, like I'm watching a ton of these documentaries...

...on the guy and he was a really cool dude and like he definitely definitely did a lot to introduce people. He had TV specials that, you know, would it would showcase bands or certain scenes, like, oh, the scene from Cornwall, England. I watched this cool show on it was called like sounds of the suburbs in England and showcasing Cornwall, England, which is this ass backwards town. I believe it might even be in Wales or right on the border of whales, but it's like one of these areas where it's cows and sheep and farmland. But these dudes apex twin all teckers square push it, like all these guys were doing really interesting electronic music and like building machines out of other machines, like breaking computers and using the circuit board from this one to create another, like right, yeah, and John Peel was like, I'm gonna do a show about these random dudes. And Yeah, next thing you know you have a fixed win beach towels and I'm sure, I'm sure I fucking John Peel had a hand and in the success of those kind of bands. So yeah, I just thought he was a cool dude. Thought we'd bring him up and and yeah, toast to John Peel. So you know, you now you need an AFEX twin beach town. I wonder what it'd be like. I don't know. It's it's he's got a cool little symbol, so I imagine that's would it be like. But but any of our listeners, if you don't know, a fixed win a lot of our. A lot of his videos, music videos, are like his. The the a fixed when is one gentleman and he's got a creepy smile like. He uses his creepy smile like. He uses it to comic effect. On his album covers he'll have like this bizarrely creepy picture of his face, and so his videos are often superimposing his face on to like a ton of little kids or like an old woman with his face. So it's it's very creepy, but it's funny, like he and so what I'm thinking is maybe his beach towels were like this weird creepy face of a Richard James, which was a fixed whin at the time. But who knows? I don't know. It just blew my mind that those sort of things existed. Apparently England had a much more open mind as far as what they would play on their big pop stations and that, as I said, is probably result of this man, John Peel. So so yeah, but now I just want to say now, in the spirit of what John Peel stood for, although to a much smaller degree, I wanted to sort of incorporate a new idea into nate's notes. An old friend and regular listener, Jack Razuco, had a suggestion and we're going to see if we can't somehow make it work. The initial idea was to create a sort of book club environment, but with music. I would recommend a piece of music that I feel is noteworthy for some reason, and at some point between now in the next episode, you, the Listener, could check it out at your leisure, and then during the next episodes nates notes segment, we'd maybe play a snippet of said piece of music as a refresher or to introduce it somewhat to those who didn't feel like checking it out themselves. I figure I can work it into the subject of each week's meets notes like, for instance, this week I'll recommend a song from a few years ago, the songs called from the pinnacle to the pit by the Swedish Rock Band Ghost. You can check it out using any APP whatever you want. I personally think youtube is a good way to quickly access the songs I'll be suggesting, and in this case the accompanying music video is pretty cool. So Youtube would be a cool way to see that as...

...well as just playing the song again. I won't say a lot about the song here, but next episode I'll tie it into nates notes. So if you want a more immersive experience, as it were, then please check out from the pinnacle to the pit by ghosts. Very cool. I like the sound and I think I was a great idea and see how it turns out. Yeah, man, thank you, Jack Razook, go for the cool suggestion. I know it's not exactly what you were suggesting, but I feel like, you know, we'll see how it works. If it sucks, will mix it in the future, but hopefully we're going to be positive about it and we're going to try it out and you know, it may not be a new song. It's probably not going to be new song, since I'm not necessarily on the forefront of brand new music all the time. But if it's a cool song and I feel like it, it's summarizes what I want to get at in a week's nates notes, then I will put it in and I'm going to try to do this each week so, you know, you guys at home will maybe broaden your musical horizons. I'll feel like I'm carrying on the legacy of John Peel to a certain extent right, and you know, we'll hopefully have some fun. So and if it doesn't work out, we can just mock Jack to no whend and she exactly shit, exactly talk shit about Jack. It's a win when, as far as I'm conserts right. You know, speaking a winning I kind of want to hype something that I just recently did. I was on dueling decades, which is a show, MMM on the Infirmary Media Network, this very network that you're listening to right now. We did if you're not familiar with the show, it's really cool. It's that boatload of fun and there's two contestants. Sometimes it's group sometimes as individuals. I happen to be on an individual episode where they will pick a date in the S and one of the s and each member each team will represent that decade and Neil again, just like I guess it's a name implies, they'll fucking duel off and there's a judge and they'll see who's the winner. Now I got to do horror. We did hard nineteen eighty verses, nineteen ninety, and I played John Cross and a fantastic excellent, awesome podcast you should be checking out called the aftermovie diner. So if you haven't listened to that, make sure you do and be on the lookout for that. Dueling decades episodes. You can see me embarrass myself on Youtube as well, so there you go. It will be in video form, so you can see my ugly Mug and in in audio form if you just want to, you know, hear my Nice, my how much I suck. We can listen to Dave defend the S. Oh yeah, I didn't even remember that. That was my thing. One thousand nine hundred and ninety. I did get nineteen nine. Yeah, yeah, okay, will sounds and an a horror guy. You're the hard I know they call me right. I was on an episode of this months ago and I wish I was on the horror one. We we had a good time when I did it, but but I feel like I would have really really shown on the horror episode. But anyway, yeah, be on the lookout for that. I will definitely listen to that and we're very proud of our Davy. So you know. Oh, yeah, well, don't be so proud yet. Give it a listen for yeah, you know, it might be hanging your head in shame after you say something like that. But that wraps it up for this episode of the selling out show. I want to thank everybody for tuning in. Virtual hugs for all of you. We Love You, we thank you. I am Dave. That is nate, and this has been selling out. Ye, infirmary media from the kids. Dant to keep your...

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