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Episode 15 · 3 years ago

Ep.#15 Funny Box

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The guys take a look at what makes us laugh. Specifically, providing you with an in-depth look at humor in TV commercials over the years and a discussion about TV comedy, from sketch to sitcoms. Is the sense of humor in this country getting better or is the standard just getting lower? Then we root for Devonte, who's trying to save his relationship on daytime television and revisit the 90's rave scene in Nate's Notes.
3:50 It pays to make the consumer giggle
19:00 Evolution of humor on TV
42:35 Divorce Court Disaster
57:20 Nate's Notes
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...this topic. Is like, you know, comedy in general, but like commercials. When we were kids it was like here's the product. Maybe there was a little quip, a little funny thing to it, but nowadays, man, it's like just think about shit like the Jack Links sasquatch commercials and all that weird like to people growing up with it nowadays it doesn't see. It just, you know, seems par for the course. But for someone like our age, the wackiness of the Cup like I appreciate that in in advertisements. I understand it's formulated by some committee and it's to sell a product, but I appreciate, you know, offbeat humor and the fact that you see it everywhere now, you know. I mean we'll get more into that, I'm sure, but I know you had some things you wanted to discuss here with the commercials. If you I don't know you want to lead into that, but indeed I do, if you would permit me to do so, kind of Sir. Yeah, yeah, let me stop. Humor and advertising can date back to the s with print, then radio and eventually television. Some notable spots were in the nine s Alka Seltzer's. That's a spicy meat ball. S Don't squeeze the Sherman s where is the bee? From Wendy's, and in the s the Taco Bell Chihuahua. So why humor? Advertisers find themselves hard pressed to create an emotional connection in a short period of time. Plus, a consumer likes to be entertained, not pitched. Humor enhances message persuasiveness, but can be a tough act to execute. People's tasting comedy vary, and a good joke to some can be viewed as distasteful to others. A prime example of this was a racist add from just for feet called the big game. The air during the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety nine, a barefoot African runner is chased down by white hunters and forced to wear the marketer shoes. Just your feet ended up suing the ad age. You See Sachi and Sacchi. A year later, just your feet ended filing for bankruptcy and folded. In two thousand and four the two thousand and ten s introduced a term known to those in advertising as oddball marketing, defined by letting your freak flag fly off beat. Campaigns by old spice and skittles spark this trend, to which I say, Does Anybody Remember Okay Soda? Here we are today with the majority of television ads attempting to tickle your funny bone. That doesn't mean it's the only successful form of campaigns. D famously launched evolution, focusing on beauty products not being exclusive to wayforth in models, but rather the everyday woman. This was a viral sensation and opened up even more avenues, as consumers now shared commercials on social media and the impact social justice can have in swaying people to spend. With Network TV on the decline, cable cutting is made streaming services superior brands appeal to young buyers with APPS, further proving the power of promotion permeates pop culture. And that, my friend, is a brief history and why people try to make commercials funny. Well, I tell you, man, it works for me. I you know, like I said, I'm fully aware that I'm being manipulated, my emotions are being manipulated by marketing executives, but but, dude, I appreciate a little bit of effort going into to making me laugh. That's the right button to push. With me. You know what I mean? I don't. I don't want to see a commercial that makes me cry or makes me feel tender about something like. Don't associate your product with that. You know, make me laugh and I'm more likely to pick up the product. Unless you just want to put a sexy girl in the commercial. That works to you know, that has worked for many, many years indeed. It just is what it is, you know. Yeah, but that's the thing is that they realize they don't have the time to make that connection with you, right so they're just like, well, let me try to get a giggle out of this person and they will remember the product, which is true. Studies have shown that even with repeat viewings, people still find if they find it funny to begin with, still you and don't mind seeing the commercial repetition. Right on, dude, it's an interesting medium. You know, it's a weird one to get into because it is it's such a short medium and I guess it works well with with humor, because humor can be a short stab. You know, you don't need to, I mean you can potentially make someone laugh with a one liner, you know what I mean, and the and in a memorable when you mentioned like where's the beef, Spicy Meat Ball, all those, it's like those, those stick in your head. Those are some genius people, I'm sure. I hope and I'm sure that those whoever came up with those, you know, made a pretty penny, you know. And but yeah, man, I don't know. Comedy, comedies an important thing, you know, in my life, I know, you know, with commercials and you know, just in general. I mean I'm the type person likes to laugh. I've mentioned I'm a I've been a goth person on and off in my life, but I'm not a dour, miserable person. I like to laugh. I just I don't know. And Yeah,...

...but that makes me dow or miserable. The fact that I have to wade through nine crappy, non funny commercials to see one that might even interest me a little bit. Yeah, and it. Sometimes they might be funny, but I'm not really in the market for it. I know recently, progressive they have these commercials about becoming your dad. Have you seen these? I don't know if I've seen those. It's becoming. Okay, there's like one where the guy he's up buying a house and his wife's complaining. ME. Used to have fun, we used to go to concerts, but ever since we got this house, he just wants to act like his old man and they show the guy and he's doing the old fogy bit, you know, like he can't see, he's leaning into look at the computer, or he's just going on about manure. Yeah, fucking like dry rot in the attic, like she gives a fuck. There's another one with the guy goes out to a nightclub and he's talking about buying Halipino poppers for all of his buddies rather than doing shots and drinks, and he's dancing like a Dork. And I actually I find you somewhat appealing, but already have an insurance company and it doesn't lead me to think, oh now I've got to use progressive yeah, man, I mean like, like I said, they don't always work for me. I'm not I'm not sitting here saying I'm a huge fan of commercials. Like I said, I'm I've said I'm aware that it's it's a manipulative, you know, practice, just like playing with emotions. But if there's any kind of I mean I fast forward through commercials like the next guy. I SKIP ADS on Youtube. I do. You know, I'm not a fan of commercials, nobody is, but if you're gonna advertise something, what I mean is just that that's I appreciate that more than you know. Like I said, tugging on my heart strings or some other form of you know, products. So you don't want to see polar bears cuddling. It makes you think you need to drink a code. Yeah, you know, come on, man, I don't know, unless the unless the polar bear like takes a dump on Santa Claus or something like that. Them. Well, it's fun. It's funny. You say that, because some of the stuff I was reading was about how you know that comedy elicits a certain response. Right, you laugh and it gets your attention. But they also found that other things do as well, like horror. Right, people, people can be scared and it gets your attention. Unfortunately, if you see a commercial for head and shoulders where someone gets beheaded, it is considered bad taste. Yeah, and that's what happens with these humorous commercials as well. Is What's funny to you might not be funny to the next guy, and so on and so on. I know, for me personally. Subway runs these ads and more like viral videos, and they show like these gimmick things, like people flipping bottles and they lay oh yeah, side, he's okay. So you see these and for me I'm like, what, what does this have to do with a subway foot long? I don't get it. This is appealing to a different demographic. They don't want me, they don't care about me. Ever eat enough hoagies in my lifetime to, you know, God knows. You know, support them, but they want the young kids on there. They the same thing with I mentioned about the APPS. is just like Taco Bell kind of rock the s with all their ads, their catchy stuff, Chalupa whatever with with the dog. Now they have these filters and the stuff that you can use on instagram or whatever and put a little pictures of Tacos in your face and people enjoy it. To me it sounds like the stupidest fucking thing of all time. Absolutely, absolutely, but it's for you know, it's for the young people. They're not worried so much about US anymore. They're going to start advertising, you know, depends, and you know, shill that to us soon. There were it the young hip companies are worried about the young demographic and they're all about their APPS and they're fucking, you know, internets. There their interwebs. I'll never forget the first time I heard rap music on a McDonald's commercial. But no, I'm serious, not. The reason why it is because I was young person at the time, but I was worried about my Nana, my great grandmother, so I'm like, oh no, what when she hears this, she's going to say, you know what's wrong with America? You know, how can they play this this hiphop music to try to sell a burger? Yeah, and I'm not there yet. The music isn't too loud yet where. I'm just watching TV, you know, screaming all these fucking young sons of bitch. You know what I mean? I'm not doing that, but I think the subway commercial I just mentioned is is kind of like trending me. Yeah, in that direction, unfortunately. Yeah, it's shocking to your elderly sensibilities. You know. Is there a commercial that's ever made you buy something like you just saw it and you like whoo? No, I mean to me the commercial makes me laugh, but the products itself, if I don't need it. The clever advertising isn't going to sway me. I don't think you know. It's more just when you see a commercial the name of something is in your head, so when you go to the store you're already familiar with that one, so maybe you're more likely to pick that. I think that's the purpose of advertising, more so you know. And Yeah, if it's got a clever little package like on TV associated with with it, a little commercial, then yeah, it's more likely to stick in your mind.

But if I go to a store and there's six brands of the same type of product and I've seen the commercial for one of them, I may be more likely to pick that one up just because I know the name already. You know what I mean. I think that's as far as advertising goes with me personally. But I don't know, it's so weird science. Yeah, no, it is a weird science, you're right. And to other forms of advertising also perplex me a little bit. I mean everything kind of does confuse me, but pharmaceutical stuff, right, everybody complains about those because they like try celebrates. Ask Your doctor about this. They give you a laundry list of side effects and really, when you go to the pharmacy. You want the generic brain right, anyway, because you don't want to spend all that money, especially here in the states, where it's just ridiculous. And the other is the more I guess they trying to portray like a thinking person's ad m. we're like Aston Martin the car. It's a high end product, right, so they'll show you the car and they'll put like a wolf on top of it and then like show something completely random, like someone running down the street, or it's like a perfume commercial, right, right, it's a high end product. They want to make it seem like, Oh, if you don't understand the commercial, there's a reason for that. You and not sophisticated enough to understand what is going on here. Right. The only person that would use such a thing is a highly intelligent consumer, right, who appreciates our art film of a commercial, you know? HMM, yeah, to that I say, go fuck yourself. Exactly, you know. And really, you selling your potential. Exactly. You're selling me fucking scented toilet water, you fucking douchebag. And, like I said, the same thing with the high end cars and everything else. It's I sit here, I watch those, I go what the fuck is going on? Like, who's actually in the right mind? Like, wow, I have to go take I have to go pick up this fucking perfume for my wife. Is Christmas season because name celebrity x said something. I really have no clue what the fuck they're talking about. Yeah, no, I hear you. Yeah, celebrity endorsements, all that Shit. That's another thing that's just like. It's not like I am more likely to buy something because I'm like, Oh, fucking Rob Gronkowski, you know, drinks this fucking coffee, so I'm going to go get it, like I could care less, but I don't know, maybe some people do. Like I said, it's all about familiar at familiarity with the product and having it in your mind already and associating it with I think a lot of its subconscious. You don't even realize it's happening. You know, it's like you, like I said, you go to the store and you're I'm more likely to pick something up because I've just already heard of it, I'm already familiar with it, even though you know it just happened. You see the commercials they programmed into you. It's we're being manipulated without even being you know, without even knowing it. Yeah, it's weird. You mentioned Gronk and thanks a ground I'm knee deep in tide pots. I don't even use a damn thing. No, I mean I actually had a talk with my six year old son one day because he's addicted to the fucking youtube. I've mentioned this. Yeah, and they do. They play the commercials on there and he will just say to me, Dad, look at this, I need to get this. You'm like no, and I was weird. Is a weird conversation and probably I'm one of the few people on the planet Earth who would do such a thing. Yeah, but I talked him about that and I said, listen, they're trying to sell you something Sun Right. They're trying to manipulate your mind to make you believe you need it, even though you really you don't. You know, I think as far as like, all we need is air and the clothes on our backs. We're happy people. But now I'm like, you don't need every fucking toy in existence, right, and especially like ice cream. I show ice cream on TV. I had to say, you know what, that's not really ice cream. That's why it doesn't fucking melt when they do a commercial and that's why it looks so good. It's mashed potape right, right. And of course he you know, he listened to me. He's a good little boy, but then he's like yeah, whatever, Dad, I need this, I want this. I'm like fuck, yeah, that's so. They at a young age. Oh yeah, the first moment you see him, your goose is cooked. You done for. And even me, it took me years to kind of realize or even care about how much they were trying to, you know, stick their dirty fingers into my gray manner. Sure, man, if you will. Yeah, so, yeah, well, that's the tricky thing about being manipulated. It's like you don't really if it's done right. You don't realize you're being manipulated. So yeah, you know, but yeah, man, you know commercials. It's a fucked up business man. But I mean, I wanted to talk a little bit about like not just how humor is in advertisement, but also just humor in general and how it's kind of evolved throughout our lives. I mean, I I'm just talking like just shooting the Shit here. I I don't have any stats or any real template for for for the way things have gone, but just just how I've noticed it. Like when we were kids, you know, humor on TV, like sitcoms and things where we're fairly safe. I mean you had the risk a humor of things like, you know, I remember watching threes company as a kid and I I didn't quite get all the little sexual in you and as when I was that young, or...

...like the the the Jack tripper pretending he was gay to, you know, make it okay. He was living with the women and all this. And like there were certain things that like, yeah, when you look back, you're like okay, that there were little cute jabs and you know, and little things like that. But you know, it's a far cry from now. There's been the steady progression where I'm not trying to get into the risk a factor and like how how perhaps our sexual morays or whatever have changed, you know, evolved over the years. But what what I'm talking about is the humor and like how things just seemed a little safe, a little across the board and average back then. And then I remember certain things that stuck out. Like I always was more drawn to like the whack ear. Should I remember my brother and I watching Rennin stimpy. Rent and stimpy was like the first cartoon I remember that was like it wasn't just funny because it was like, you know, a bugs bunny or a Tom and Jerry, someone hitting someone with a frying Pan, and it was, you know, whacky or whatever. It was gross, it was bizarre. It had like just nonsensical shit that was funny just because it was nonsensical and weird. And like I feel like that shit broke ground to the point where you had spongebob squarepants, which is like an obvious you know descended of rend and Simpy, and that just blew up. And Yeah, man, and like from there you look at every cartoon on TV now almost and like all this shit my girl's son watches nowadays are is like as Wacky as rend and stimpy all. I mean actually, I watched the rent and stimpy recently and it's still kind of holds the fucking metal for some weird shit. But like yeah, but nowadays it's just everything is whacky and nonsensical and kind of gross out or, you know, just kind of just bizarre, you know offbeat. And another thing that I know you were a fan of as well when I was grown up in my house, kids in the hall was a huge absolutely dude, you know, that was that informed so much of like my humor and like, I feel like sketch comedy right, like sketch comedy, when done right, it's like a good venue to like push boundaries. Like you have short sketches and they leave room for like exploring weird concepts and you don't have to like commit too much because it's just like a you know, you couldn't do a whole series on like Monty Python's ministry of silly walks like sketch or or the dead parrot sketch, but you can make people laugh at some out there shit for like five minutes or whatever length the sketches, you know. And and so I feel like sketch comedy has been a good venue for like comedy to really explore and evolve and like, you know, yeah, kids in the hall, Monty Python went to the vacant lot and the state and Mr Show and the Ben stillers show. I don't even know if most of our listeners are even aware that the Ben Stiller show was a thing before Ben Stiller became a big fan and a big star, you know, but right, right. You know. It's when you say these sketch comedy things and you mentioned like a little five minute bits or whatever, it's kind of like snack size satisfaction. Exactly, exactly right, you know. And that's the thing now, is when you talk about the Ben Stiller show, there's one skit in particular that stuck out my mind and I want to see it. So I went on Youtube, I search for it, I found it nice and that was the last of the Mohicans treadmill. Now. But here's the thing. Was it still as funny as it was back then? No, course, my humor is evolved and changed a little bit. But again, I didn't need to watch a whole episode of something. I'll don't get me wrong. Siinfeld is one of my favorite shows of all time, but you basically had a watch, you know, the whole thirty minutes to get the a full experience. But while with these sketch shows you get a little bits and pieces that you can just again serve him up whenever you need them. Right, right. Man, rent is stimpy was an interesting thing because I was never a huge fan, but there was definitely something unique about that was the retro elements. Yeah, and the artistry involved, because there would be you mentioned how gross it was to be some graphic stuff on there, whether it had to do with like bodily fluids or people's not people's, but the the animals private. So what happened? And they would show like some graphic stuff like, yeah, those were slows ups and Shit Lo sups. Right, yeah, there were gross man, but in kids in the hall, I tell most people when they when I say how I grew up, I I tell him I was raised by Canadians and drag because I was a locking key kid and when I would come home from school, I would just watch. Back then it was called a comedy champ. Absolutely not comedy es Central, and Watch Rachel, sweet and rich halls onion world. Yeah, and kids in the hall would be on and I would just love it. I'll sit there with a bowl of serial feed up and that's how I would spend my entire afternoon. Absolutely man, homework be damned, and that's why I'm the man...

I am today. Yeah, Dude, I hear you. I mean kids in hall is Great. I don't know if you remember. You must remember for a short period it was may have only been a season, maybe two at the most. Affiliated with the kids in the hall. There was a show called the vacant lot. I don't know if you're my do. Yeah, and that one was pretty funny too. I was watching a bit of that. I'd like you. Like you said, you can find anything on Youtube nowadays and, believe it or not, like kids in the hall and some Vacant Lot, a lot of the vacant lot does kind of hold up for me. I don't know, maybe it's my personal sensibilities, but but yeah, like the Ben Stiller Show, even some of Mr Show, like David Cross and Bob Odin Kirk's show on Hbo back in the day. Like I'll watch some of those nowadays and they don't necessarily hold up as much. And like, I don't know this the state. I don't know if anyone remembers the state on MTV. It was, you know, sketch comedy show, but that they had like eleven members. It wasn't like most sketch comedy shows, like five guys, you know tops. Yeah, and like the state was like too many people. You know, I never quite got affiliate. Like never under I don't know, I never yeah, but the majority of that cast is gone on and they're still very success. Absolutely, absolutely. You know some, a couple of them, like right, most of the biggest selling movies, like you know, Thomas Lennon and Ben Garant, like those guys wrote all like the night at the museum movies and all these big broad comedy movies that you wouldn't expect to come from the mind of like those people. And then they did Renn one and all that shit too, like that, dude, let's understand, like comedy is just a fertile awesome I don't know. I it's funny though, right, like I was. I was thinking to Saturday night live, right, and Saturday night life is something that's been around since before we were born and it's still going on. It's it's hit or miss, but there's usually something clever, you know, in an episode. But like, dude, it's funny. I noticed when like es and l switches casts and or like writers, they often go through this period where people are I know I myself say, like do this new cast socks. They're just silly and goofy. They're not like the last guys who were super funny, like and then in a couple of years that becomes like the New Paradigm and people accept the new cast as valid and even like genius level. Like I remember when when the cast switched over from like Dana Carvey and Mike Myers and all those people, you know, Phil Hartman, and then it went to like the Will Ferrell and Chris Katan and Cheryo Terry years like. And at the time, dude, I will be honest, I could not stand that shit. I was like, this is just silly, childish. There nowhere near as funny as like Dana Carvey and Mike Myers, all those classic sketches and all this in like but dude, looking back, like Dana Carvey and Mike Myers and all that Shit, when you re watch some of those sketches, they they don't necessarily hold some of them hold up, but a lot of that shit was silly and shitty too. But I grew up with it, so I accepted it. And like Will Ferrell didn't necessarily appeal to me right away. But now that dudes like fucking comedy goal. Then it just, you know, it just took a little time to incorporate him into like the Zeitgeist whatever, where you now will Ferrell. Is that accepted gold standard of common even that it's probably that's a probably a dated reference, you know. I mean he's got a new move right coming out. But you know, Ayesa now never really floated my boat and yeah, I've never been a big fan. I watch it on occasion, I don't really and even when I do, I don't really care for it. Yeah, I don't think it's kind of like what you just said earlier, yeah, where you kind of find bits and pieces that might be, yeah, honey or somewhat intelligent, but overall the product is not very good. Yeah, in my opinion. No, I hear you mean like, I'll be honest, like when I was a little kid, like before I don't know. I was my idea of a little kid like two years old. Well, not quite that. Yeah, like definitely, like, you know, around ten ish, maybe a maybe, up until likes what, to the point where I wasn't going out yet on weekends. You know what I mean? The point was that I would be my idea of like a cool Saturday night was stand up late to watch Saturday and I live and and dude. Yeah, like all the waynes world sketches in the Dana Carvey with this church lady, all that Shit. It Phil Hartman, like I grew up with that shit and I and I still have a place in my heart for that, but I just yeah, I'll go back and watch some of it now and I'm just like yes, cheesy and whatever, but, like I said, comedy has evolved. My sense of humors evolved with it. And Yeah, man, like it seems like at some point shit just got weird. You had these these weird revolutionaries, like I mean Adam Sandler came from Saturday night live and you can say what you want about his recent movies and...

...they're dumb, but he had his period, like you remember, like the Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, like sure, dude, that shit was funny, quotable, you know, Funny Shit. And then you remember, like there was that period in the s when like Tom Green had a show, and I remember. You must remember Tom Green. UN absolutely, yeah, I loved all that stuff. I Love Jackass and Tom Green. Yeah, well, Tom Green was first. He was like that, the gateway, right shee. was something like Jackass, where people were seeing something completely ridiculous, maybe for the first time. YEA, and it became more acceptable because people were outraged over right. So it created more news, more, you know, more fanfare, and the younger set is we were at the time well like hey, fuck the establishment, man, blowing shit up is funny, monkey wrench in the works, you know. I just kind of like yeah, Fuck Shit Up. I mean we had friends, I meant our friend James was like pissed off when Tom Green came out because he's like, dude, he is doing me likes and James all my bit yeah, yeah, exactly. James was like that type of dude. It would just come up and say some weird random shit or like almost annoy people that didn't know him, because you know, but but to those who knew him it was funny and you fucking laughter ass off. But nowadays that's just, you know, it kind of it that broke open the fucking gate or for all kinds of new ship. I mean, yeah, you know, so that, yeah, exactly, nowadays, dude, like all right, so we used to sit around and basically, you know, smoke, we whatever, you take whatever acid, whatever it is, and you'd laugh. We'd always say like I wish we could make a show out of these strange ideas. And and now it seems that's what a lot of comedy is like. It's just people being stoned in a writer's room and coming up with Weird Shit and say and throw it down like there's I almost I almost think there's. There may be less thought put into some of it, but, like, you know what I mean. It's not as like it doesn't fit a formula and necessarily like old Sitcom writing had to. And you know, nowadays kids are watching Youtube, homemade vines and shit, like you're talking about. Your Son Watch, you know, going on the Internet like my girls kids same thing. He watches these, you know, six second vines or whatever, the funny little clips that people make in their home, and it's some of it's okay, but dude, most of it is stupid and just wacky and it's yeah, it's simultaneously frustrating because you're like is is this what people are being entertained by now? But at the same time it's like it's that same thing with how the Internet changed music. Like anyone can have the opportunity to get their shit out there, which is good, but the byproduct of that is there's a lot of garbage coming out to your flooding. Oh so I don't know. I mean this is a subject that I could go off on forever. It's just like, you know, yeah, I mean to the Tom Green thing you brought up. There's kids across America, myself included, who is like, Oh man, if I only had a video camera, I could have been famous like this fucking guy. And now, as you mentioned, with vines and everything, everybody has a every in your pocket. Yeah, a high quality camera and you pocket. Yeah, when you say about people just getting baked in a writer's room, yeah, a prime example of this to me, even though I've never watched the show for this very reason, is rick and morty. Oh Dude, I love Rick and and I will not bring myself to watch rick and Morty because at first glance I'm like, okay, so they stole the concept of back to the future. Yeah, is a DOC Brown and party character and is I guess it's a bunch of Wacky Shit. I've heard about pickle rick or whatever the case is here, and to me that's like, okay, here's a bunch of fucking guys sitting around dosing on acid right just throwing fucking spaghetti at the wall and throwing the kitchen sink in there. Shit. Yeah, I really don't have any interest in that. Yeah, I'm glad you love it, but for me I'm like, how much originality really is there compared just, I don't know. All Right, picking up your own mess, I will say I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that you've expressed on here before that you no longer smoke. We you know, longer. I'm not saying that you have to be stone to appreciate Rick and more. Oh Yeah, you are. But well, to an extent I am. But I will say, okay, so my brother, my brother introduced me to rick and Morty and my brother does not smoke. We despite living in Colorado. My brother is not a big stoner. I mean occasionally, you know, he's the only one. Yeah, the one citizen of Colorado was completely so exactly. Is the one guy who's, you know, Dude. But he introduced me to rick and morty and he gets it. He fucking I'm glad he did, because to me that was just another show on the one of those whacky shows that the kids are watching nowadays. is where with, you know, like I said, everything from the lineage of rents and be the spongebob to whatever, I I wouldn't have even given it a chance. But Dude,...

...it gets deep like that show really does get deep. I'm glad you brought up rick and Morty, actually, despite you not being a fan like because to me that's a perfect example what I was talking about. Like you said, it's bunch of people getting fucked up in the writer's room, but they actually have the follow through. Believe it or not. It gets pretty deep. There's actually I don't know, I don't I don't want to turn this in commercial says you, by the way. Yeah, and a half a billion other people, but still, you be surprised. There's a few. There's a little bit of like Pathos in that, you know if you watch some of the some of the episodes, because it deals with like, you know, parallel universes, in the concept of like multiple versions of yourself, and like all these it it gets really heady in and weird and I don't know, I really do appreciate it, but but dude, you know, somewhere along the way it just seems like marketing exacts noticed that like that stony, bizarre, silly shit was at least marketable and worth throwing money at, you know, to as opposed to like a normal Sitcom Story. I canny even some of the more quote unquote normal sitcoms like you watch, like modern family and shit like that, like it. It's yeah, it's a typical Sitcom family, you know, scenario, but it's it doesn't have the laugh track. It kind of does set up like a document. It's exactly. It's set up like that office style. It's definitely a child of the office and all that. But you know, and say what you will about that, but I think it works. I think that's a clever show. I mean there are good shows out now. It's just I feel like laugh tracks are now unnecessary. Like you still hear them on some shows, but I don't think it's necessary to tell people where the jokes are anymore. You know what I mean? Like no, no, you're right. Find it can't be in kind of retro when you hear a laugh track and shows like I forget. I forget that that show, blackish or one of the one of the other big shows was on one day and I'm like the still using laugh tracks on these shows, man, like I don't know, just I guess maybe some of them are filmed in front of students, but I don't think that one was. I don't know, it's weird, but well, somewhere just inserted in. But I want to re why. Yeah, here reminder to wear. Second you had brought up a threes company. Yeah, yeah, and you know, when you're a kid you watch these same things often in syndication. I know I did. What you would mention. You don't get the big picture. You don't really pick up on the ticks, right. You know, for example, Jack Pretending to be gay so he can live in the apartment, tricking Mr Rope or and everything else right with the world as it is. And you mentioned, you know, laugh tracks are dead and everything. And pretty much like a lot of the TV shows, people are addicted to our movies produced for television. If you think of game of thrones, for example, or breaking bad or some of these cable networks putting out these very popular programs. Right, I find myself watching more than anything now, Shit like night cord. Huh? I watched night court every fucking day. Yeah, man, well, there's a place for that too. Like I said, there is a place to appreciate, you know, like good old formulaic shit and and dude, Harry Anderson was a fucking rest in peace. He was a he was a funny bastard man, you know. Well, that's what I kind of wanted to get to. Is that I when I was on, when I was a kid, you know, you'd watch it. That's stupid, you know. You know whatever happens, some kind of slapsticky thing or you know, the little comedy bits thrown in there. As you mentioned, Harry was a magician. Yeah, so they'd be stupid little props and stuff. But now you watch it is some of the stuff is actually pretty intelligent. Yeah, yeah, and you realize it. Maybe it's not so formulaic is you might believe. And they were doing some fairly innovative things here or there. There's an episode on the the other day where I'm like this is a mirror of like the later side of from Mad Magie. Yeah, I don't know if you remember that all, but yeah, it the short little yeah, almost like sketch comedy in magazine form, you know. Yeah, exactly. And I'm watching this episode I'm like that was a really smart thing to do. Whether the inspiration is there or not, it led me to sit there on my couch, scratch my Chin for a second and go HMM, which, to be honest with you, probably didn't happen very often with modern sitcoms. A right, yeah, man, so there you go. Yeah, people are doing it, innovative shit throughout, you know. I mean there's there's there's an amazing shit from every era and like, yeah, some of it we were too young to appreciate when it was first out. But yeah, you got to watch it with an older I it's cool that we can go back and watch a lot of this shit. And I shit is archived and if it's not syndicated, you can find it online usually. You know, it's interesting. I like I like looking at the, you know, variety of what people thought was funny throughout and some of it is universal. Some of it is still funny, you know, a lot of it, you know what I mean. But it's more what people think is shocking has changed and what people think is appropriate to joke about has changed. But certain comedic you know, rules or...

...guidelines will always be funny. You know what I mean. Comedy is usually like an unexpected twist, you know, an unexpected thing that, whether it's a punch line that you didn't see coming or whatever, you know, and and funny as funny man, and I just worry that we're going to get to a point where it's like an idiocracy and people are just laughing at people getting hit in the balls all day. You know, that's now, that's has happened. Speaking of the devolutionist society, man, why don't we? Why don't we get to I know you were watching some lower bro entertainment the other day, so if you want to get to that, busted. Yeah, I'm guilty as anybody else now because I spend my afternoons just watching utter fucking try. So yeah, well, yeah, let's take a commercial break real quick and then we come back we'll talk about my woes watching this fucking Oh God, my brain is disintegrating as I speak. So yeah, definitely break in order and we will see you on the other side. Tune into the all new dueling decades Julian, the game where you become a Retro Warrior and play along at home as the s and s fight it out over Earth's mightiest topics. I'm the S am I totally awesomeness will destroy the s on dueling decade side Julian the s will never beat the S, brother. Nope, not gonna happen, not tonight, not never. The S is gonna snap the s like a meat stick. Brother. Oh Yeah, I'm the Honorable Judge Cross and when you're in my courtroom, baby, I'm gonna Judge you like Ryan hold. I'm here to uphold law and order. Like Mariska Cockete, Julian, the S is gonna beat the s over the head with a piece of the I grow crag. Listen to all the fun now for Free Atoo Culturecom. Sure we all know vaping saves lives, but now I want to save you some money. Visit Northland Vaporscom, probably made in North Dakota. Northland Vapors Line of e liquids contain no artificial sweeteners, are dike tone free and won't gunk up your coils. Whether you're quitting smoking or an experience vapor northland carries a variety of flavors and hardware, making it at onestop shop for all your vaping needs. Northland believes quality doesn't need to be costly, and right now you can use code selling out nineteen and save nineteen percent off. There already amazing prices. So what are you waiting for? Get your head into the clouds and shop online at Northland vaporcom or visit their locations in more head and but Midgey, Minnesota. Some products contain nicotine, adults only. All right, there's a wide variety of port shows on TV. I tend to avoid them like the plague. I mean, I can't understand how anybody would want their public business being on TV, especially I think you all kind of go in expecting you're going to lose. See just look like a fucking asshole to begin with. But are you familiar with divorce cord at all? I mean, I'm sure I heard of it, but there's so many, like you mentioned, so many court shows, I'm not sure that I've seen that one in particular. But okay, well, here on divorce court we get judge Perkins, who takes on cases where couples are on the verge of calling it quits. I had it all the other day, and this particular proceedings had a young woman named Christie complaining that her boyfriend, Davante, is a dead beat, and I kind of want to share it with the world. I don't want to suffer alone. Okay. So, so when you say we listen in a little bit on this case, sounds good. Good Day, Ladies and Gentlemen, here today with Christy Jemison and Devante Daniels. Miss Jemison, you are done through, sick of it, tired, you've had enough. Miss Daniels, Mr Daniels, do you think you can save it? So that's what you're here to do. I'm going to start with you, Miss Demonson. Why don't you tell me a little bit about your relationship and why we're here today? Well, we had today because I broke up with devante. Basically, I took care of him for thrown the heavy ISS. Devante is a liar. Yeah, Cheetah, here bum all he did was mooch off of me the whole relationship. Jesus, tell us how you really feel, Miss Jamison. Yeah, those are some strong words, for sure, but the I gonna I got to say something here. Buddy, hot CHIMACHI. She's a looker. Uh Yeah, yeah, not bad. You know, she's pretty hot. I let her dennigrate me all day long. I don't know she's Your Cup of tea, but she's right for me. I think she's most people's Cup of tea. Yeah, she's she's a haughty. Yeah, she talks a little funny, she's got some braces in there whatever. But yeah, totally look fast that man, Mama. and to describe Davante a little bit, just so everybody out there can kind of visualize it, he's got pink dreads, a pink shirt and he has a tattooed eyebrow. But we're about to learn that he's actually a...

...go getter. MMMM. He lie about sending resumes to job. I'd take the same box. Nothing. So who are you sending jobs to? I'd check the history on the Internet. Nothing. Then lies, John. I'm old school, I'm not that text heavy. I'm out and go hand him to the jobs myself. Nay, I can respect this. I mean he wants to show off his weares and person, but I a little curious as to who even accepts walkins anymore. I know. Yeah, man it. This guy is definitely an analog job applicant. I mean I kind of identify with that. I'm not tech savvy either, but from the picture Ms Jamison Paints of this dude, I don't I don't know if he's motivated enough to be out delivering resumes by hand. Do you know when he could just do it from the comfort of his own home online? Know this is the true? I don't know true. I mean, I'm just I'm still kind of wondering. What kind of job you just walk in and give you resume for Strip club bouncer. I know even the if I really donalds wants you to play online, you know exactly right. Where the fuck is he going? I don't get it. I have a feeling he's not telling us a truth. His looks, however, MMM, may make it hard to score when he walks through the door. Absolutely when I met him he didn't look like that. What do you look like? He look normal, like a no Ma. Do you know normal no shirt all with the picture it all. Larry is normal dude. And this dude. How much did it cost you to become that dude? Over twenty five hundred? Twenty five hundred dollars, yes, and like when you're seventy. You know how that's gone subtle out. I'm all right with that. I'm all right. What Ho because that's fifty years from now. Yeah, that's a long time. I got some time to regret that later. Are you ever concerned that your physical appearance will somehow hinder your ability to become employed. No, because I am employed at the moment. What are you doing? I work for a very important motor company. I think the word little is what got me about the whole description of him back in the like. Look at him with his normal little shirt on it. It sounds downright adorable, you know, you think so. Yeah, what what happened to our normal little dude with his normal little shirt? It's just he's a dude. Is a little shame. What happened? You know? Well, what about the tattoos? Oh, dude, I mean, I don't know what she calls him. You know, she says he used to be like normals, a relative term. I don't know that. Yeah, face tattoos are kind of I don't know, I don't know if that's worth twenty five hundred, you know. Yeah, I'll say this, old man. What's wrong with living in the now? You know, he says got some time to regret that later. You know, it's like at least he's aware. It's never too early to start regretting. You know. Yeah, face tattoos, his neck tattoos. Regret is the gift that keeps on giving. You know, yeah, I got fifty years. I fifty years to go before I start feeling like shit. Yeah, well, by then, who cares? Anyway, you're sagging, everything's drooping. You know whatever, it's no big deal. The thing I kind of found funny here about the guy is that when they asked what he does for a living, MMM, he says I work for a very important motor it's like like motor company, but he pauses as if he's like searching for an industry in his mind is like, what can I say here? Dude? What the Fueh? I don't what the fuck is a motor company? Either it's really bad at lying or he just has no idea what kind of jobs exist. You know, he's like, I work at a motor company. Yeah, he's gonna say like a bad fitters or something. Yeah, exactly, but but it just didn't sound like Regal enough. It didn't carry enough away. so He's just like motor company and Motor Company. What do you guys do there? Company Motors. We work with motors. Hey goby and had a job. Where do you live? A job myself to make sure she got up to go to her job. So we both didn't have jobs. You mean to tell you? Tell me it took you all day to get again, what it for that? Ah, it took you all day to get her to work. No, I did not get her to work. I just made sure she went. I didn't even get paid for that. I did a like volunteer status out of the goodness of my heart. Well, maybe he didn't have a car before he started working for the motor hmm company here, you know. But but you know what I'm going to tell you, man, I kind of again, I kind of respect that. Yeah, he's finally being honest. And you know, she looks fairly high maintenance here, so who knows, maybe was like an assembly line gig or something. Yeah, getting her ready for work. I mean, I really but seriously, that is a legitimate job. I will stand by him on that. I am with you, Davante, all the way. You don't want to do nothing like I'll go to work, leave him a whole list of stuff to do. I get home, the house dirty, him and his friends around being bumps, having a bump fist. There might be a chip bag or two lying around next to the consoles, yes, but no more than that. Consoles is that. Yeah, is that connected to your home theater equipment? I think he has such a like an intimate relationship with video...

...games. M He came up with a pet name for his playstation or something console. Yeah, it's fancy. Sounds like it's kind a former French, the language I love. Really it's like going to target. You call it Tarje. He's got the consoles in this stupid that it took me throwing the Helveyes so realize, like, okay, I gotta do something about this, like he gotta go. Well, better late than never, I guess. Yeah, totally. Man. Ladies, the moment, you're living room is littered with empty funding bags. You know what she got here. You either run or you reside with the fact you know. Don't come three and a half years later, saying you're stupid. She belittles me and she gets possessed of a town. It's more of the belittling. When her coming home, give me an example of her, of what she's done. When I come home and a toy, when she comes home in a tour isn't done. First thing you do is say, Oh, what you in? Do you and do notne all day. You just bummy extra bummy, you ain't got none going this and that. That's all I heard every day when she come home. She's always fussing pick this up, clean this up, and I asked for a little help. I just ask for a little help, if she could just help me, maybe vacuum or something like that. This chick sounds lazy as fuck. I think he should just get out of there. You know, he's not here, thinks, take his chip bags and run. Yeah, is going. I'm fucking else. I don't know, man, you don't listen. For my personal experience. He's Lucky, Oh, absolutely lucky, that he did not get pelted with the rolling pin. They I have welts on my buttocks the size of pancakes. Okay, Oh yeah, man. So this guy, you know, listen, a few, I don't know, bad words toss his way. is nothing absolutely compared to the punishment I get at home. Oh my God, man, I don't want to see most people, but I know a lot of people who would, who would die to be in this. Dudes, you know, last three years of whatever. Yeah, totally. I mean again, she's a fucking smoke ball. Yeah, for one. So you can put up with anything here and here's the thing, man, he is putting out his last plea. Yes, right up now. So you want her back? I want her back. Yes, give me your best. Cut Around and tell her woman something. Do you mind? I know, go out in Christ. You have all you not done with him, and I'm sorry everything I did and I want you back. Will you take the kid back one last time? I'm gonna Change, man, your honor. What change? Merely I was just a little boy when we make I'm now a full grown man. And I'm now a full grown man. See, see, that's why he can't wear the little shirts anymore. He's grown. Don't let the stupid neon dreads and face tattoos fool you. Dude. Dude, sounds like a soundcloud mumble rapper, but you know he's he's grown. You know. Hey, he's out of the Oshkosh bagosh phase. I guess where she first film? I guess you know this guy's a poet. He really is. Despite being bummy, he's truly found his honey and Devante, wherever you are out there right now, I salute you. And for what exactly, I'm not entirely sure, but seeing this on TV amused me. I don't know that says about me is a human being, probably nothing good. But yet I was interested in this guy and I kind of want to know what's going on with him. So, you know what, in this spirited television, give him a Sitcom. Sounds good. Man. He looks like a modern day start duty. Looks like little Yachti this little soundcloud rapper, but on on Crystal Meth. I don't know, I know, really, I'm not familiar with it. I was going to say he looks like a malnourished Chuck Mosley or something. Yeah, that too, he does. That's a good point. Much like Davante, I'm actually looking for sympathy from our listeners, you know, because I need someone to take me away from daytime TV. Yeah, so if anybody out there has some activities for me to do, I welcome them. Yes, you keep me busy between the hours of I don't know, noon and to have because I never want to go through this again. Phone number for a support group or something so you can get off these atime TV shit fuck up. Play tick tactell online, I don't care. We'll do we'll do somethings with friends, some I don't even know what that is it's like? Is that like candy crush? Like online scrabble you play with other people? I'm not very smart. It has to be like a low grade activity. Yeah, that's why I mentioned tick tactell or hangman or something. You're bringing up fucking scrabble. Fuck that. Candy crush maybe your way to go I will not touch that with a ten foot pole either. But listen, if anybody out there wants to talk more about Davonte or not, rather than not, or contact us on twitter. It's easy at selling out show, or you can send us an email selling out show at gmailcom. We'd love to hear from you, and not just about this, but anything that you feel like talking about. Really. 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...that was supposed to go see the blue man group that following day with my family. That time, I believe I actually sought out the acid upon realizing the day's imminent plans, partly because I figured it would help keep me awake for the show and for the surrounding trip to Boston after being up all night and all day the previous day. I was thinking it says a lot about my behavior at the time that I could spend all day walking around the city and spending time together in the car with my family while tripping my face off and nobody noticed the difference. I don't know if it means I could handle my acid or I just always acted like a flaky Weirdo. Probably a little of both, but pardon that little tangent. I started hitting parties more frequently, a couple times a month anyway, and Andy and myself and whoever else tagged along to round out the car. This was before they were like House Dj Club nights all week where Frat boys rocked glow sticks. Sometimes the event would be at a function hall type place like the Wallace Civic Center. Sometimes it was at an old shutdown factory space or warehouse. Sometimes in the warmer months they'd have big outdoor parties and upstate New York or Connecticut, in some field in the middle of nowhere. The Internet was in its infancy and the people who would put these events on didn't exactly advertise in the local papers. So the best way to find out about upcoming parties, aside from just being told about it, was to go to a party and there you'd end up with a bunch of glossy, colorful flyers, each advertising and upcoming event, with a list of the nights planned, Dj's, the town or basic area in which it was going to be taking place, but often without a specific address and a phone number that you would call on the day of the event to get specific directions. All very grassroots and clandestine. It was fun back then. You'd go home with a stack of these flyers and you talk to your friends about which ones looked promising. The Flyer would show you like the Motif of the planned party. If it was around Halloween, you might go to a party called Boo and obviously the Flyer and the party were all Halloween themed. There was an annual series of parties and upstate New York called fantasia back in the s. That were weekend long parties with dozens of DJ's and live acts all in this giant field in the theme was just fantasy shit, with people coming dressed as fairies and whatever else. And every year you'd get the new fantasia Flyer and the thing was always this like foldable poster with cool artwork and an impressive list of international performers. In fact, all the flyers were generally cool to look at and potentially hangable artwork for a scenster teenager's bedroom wall. Funny thing is that for like the first several months of going, I wasn't even into dancing. Believe it or not, I was really into the music, which sounds funny to critics of techno who think how could you possibly tolerate such monotonous beats? But something about the hypnotic nature of trance or House music just worked well for me. And then there was the whole subgenre of jungle and drum and bass, which featured far more interesting beats and more variety in them. I could do all segment on jungle. I was a big fan of that stuff. But Anyway, yeah, I was more interested in the music and, of course, the variety of chemicals you'd find then actually dancing, which is kind of the point of going to Raves. I don't know when things changed, but at some point I learned the whole dance like nobody's watching thing, and I've always had a sense of rhythm. So yeah, to to this day, if I'm at some kind of thing like a wedding or on a cruise or whatever, you almost can't get me off the dance floor. My girls like that too, so she appreciates it. But the main thing I loved about the rave scene was that you'd go to these events all over New England and you always ran into people you knew, whether you were in your hometown or two states away in some random warehouse party, and the people you'd know would introduce you to a bunch of other people and so you'd have friends all over the place, which was cool when you didn't want to drive all the way home from a party like hours from home, so you could always find a couch to sleep on for a few hours in the morning, although those early morning drives home were off and half the fun trying to navigate in the pre gps days of the mid S, still tripping or beaming from whatever you took with a car full of friends, laughing and still zinging from the night's excitement, just stopping for gas or coffee ended up as some amusing anecdote when seasoned with enough chemicals. We had this coffee...

...shop in our hometown that we'd spend hours at most days drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes. Back in the pre nicotine Nazi days. We knew everyone who worked there, most of whom were classmates in high school at the time. So we'd walk in at like seven am looking like zombies, with trip sweat matting our hair down and usually flex of glitter from hugging too many candy raver chicks. Some of US would be chewing on binkies like babies so we didn't chew up the insides of our cheeks after too many amphetamines. Some of the old folks or families getting breakfast at the place would eye US suspiciously, but a handful of the regular their customers and, of course, the cooks and waitresses would just laugh and make a rough night kind of comment. I always liked the sort of secret society feel of the thing. You'd go to a restaurant in the bus, boy would have big spacers in his ears and be wearing a pair of giant pants and you'd kind of give each other a nod. It was all kind of fight clubby, but with less missing teeth or bruises. And sure, nowadays we look back at some of the questionable fashion choices of the scene, the aforementioned giant Jinko Pants, the baby passifiers, lots of Polo and Nautica, and sure, eventually even that bizarre sense of style, body piercings and all, was co opted by far more than our little underground group. And over time it all kind of morphed into Shitty night clubs and even the more authentic parties began to favor more obnoxious shit like dubstep. But for a few years back in the mid to late S, I had a lot of fun in that scene. Did Way too many drugs but met a lot of good people. To be honest, I still run into people who I'll learn we're part of that whole thing. Like Dude. I noticed, like I've I have a friend that I've mentioned on here before who is, like you know, a member of the band I now play in and I've recently learned that, like him and like a bunch of the people I've met through him, we're all part of that same scene. It's just like there's a good chance that if I meet somebody who was of a certain age in the S, there's a good chance that I either was at the same party with them or I don't know. It was, like I said, you all looked at the current fantasia flyer like a little kid. We look at the sears Christmas catalog. Yeah, did that period of time did. It was, you know, it was like it was a whole thing. I know, I know you were. You know, you weren't big into that scene. You know, I think. No, you you. You would occasionally imbibe on some of the doggy bands we'd bring home, you know exactly. Yep, and like that was always fun. But but yeah, man, I don't know, it was like for it definitely helped me break out of my shell. Like I said, it meant I mentioned how I was never somebody that like dancing, and I know that sounds whatever to some people, but like it's more fun to be that guy like like my girl and I would wear at a wedding one time of a friend of ours and we were on the dance floor so long that night that some random people that didn't even know us before that night. We're like you guys got to come to our wedding like we're because we're just like, I don't know. I at some point I just realize how much fun it is and like well, maybe there were swingers. You know anyway thinks something extra. You never know, they see a shaking that booty on the dance floor maybe, but yeah, I'm man, I don't know. I I mean electronic music has has gone through all these changes and nowadays, like you'll still find some good shit and and and technologies made it a lot easier for more people to produce more, I don't know, interesting or interesting sounding electronic music. But but back then there just wasn't as much of it and I was deep into that Shit. And and yeah, you you mentioned the Doggie bags and from my perspective, I was not into the scene whatsoever. But I remember some instances where I would go with people who were attending a rain and I'd be like, I'm not going to spend my money on that Shit, but I'm going to stay in the car. I remember that. Yeah, I remember you doing that. Yep, yes, get drunk and then when you guys come out, give me some crystal method Fetemy, and you guys all had a great time. It's just it wasn't my thing. I don't like to dance. I understand, like you mentioned, the chemicals kind of loosen your inhibitions a little bit in no matter what, you're going to book right. But yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't for me. Man, music aside, I'm just talking about the say. Yeah, not, not my thing. I know, I've got my thing. I think it's hilarious because I remember one of those nights that you can't. You came with us in the car and I was like, Holy Shit, you actually coming with it. And then we get there and you're like, yeah, I'm just going to sit in...

...the car. We're like you realize we're going to be in there for like hours, right? We got there at like ten o'clock at night. We're going to be there till like five am. Right in. You're like that's fine, I got a bottle of this dring. Yeah, and then when you got big Y'll get hammered. I was people watching you know, watching people walk by, the cow whatever. I was having a Grandel fucking Tad Huh man. So and again you guys came out with a good she yes, oh my go all right now, I can take this tomorrow night or whatever and and have a good time. So thanks for that. But yeah, yeah, I but you're right there. I'll never forget. For example, the flyers were quite good and people have some serious photoshop skills. Back in the day they were these glossy stock yeah, and you mentioned hanging them up on your wall. Yeah, which is cool because they were visually pleasing. But the same time any smart parent might I said, Hey, I think my key on April twenty two is gonna go fucking do some drugs. Yeah, I know where to find him. I'm going to call this number, locate them and bring them home. The other thing you had said about take an acid in your parents cat on the way to blue man group and you didn't know if they thought you were strange or anything. I'll never forget one night, and I know you I told you this story many times, I know if I told it on the radio before, where I came home tripping balls and I'm like, I'm going to sneak into my bedroom right, and my mom's like, Dave, make me some toast. I'm like fuck. So anyway I go, I make your some toes, tripping my ass off. I give it the toast and she's like, will sit down watch the TV with me? Oh my God, all right. So, anyway I sit down and is David Letterman, and it turns out was an April fools night because they were doing the show and they're like now we cut to a special bulletin, and when they did, it was like a news anchor, a real news anchor, there's a meteor heading towards the earth, we're all gonna die, and at that moment, like my inside's turned a complete and utter fucking dust until he gave the punch line of the joke and he's like yeah, and I'm banging my secretary and she came up from underneath your death yeah, and I'm like, Oh, thank I need to go to bed now. Good night, mom, and I never got caught. She never knew was tripping my ass off. I will never forget that for as long as I live. So an entire car ride must have been Agon Oh man, the car ride walking around Boston. We went out for like dinner, we were at like a restaurant, we went to the I mean the blue man group was fun, but it's kind of interactive. It's like imagine these weird blue dudes, like they get all up in your face. They like walk around the crowd and like put their blue faces up in your face. Like I wouldn't be surprised if like a good percentage of the audience was on acid, because that seems like the the targeted audience. If you ask me, it seems like it's designed for people are tripping. But no, no, it's not. I know, Mama, but but I will say you it was. Yeah, but I will say with your toast story and everything, like I always thought it's like you could take a normal, mundane thing, dude, I went home and I had to wash the dishes, and it's like, okay, big deal. But if you say, dude, I had to get a go home and I had to wash the dishes tripping, it changes the whole thing. To anybody who knows it's like, Oh shit, like it because hors thing exactly and like a fucking nightmare. Yeah, care with legs. Absolutely. Yeah, it's like, Holy Shit, I something is required of me, like I can barely yeah, I can barely walk. You know, it's I don't know, we don't have good times back in the day, but I couldn't even begin to tell you how much LSD have consumed him. Anyway, that's another story, from too much eggs, too much fucking same here. We can we should do a whole episode of last just talk and even then you brought up the restaurant which was called dwires doubly Massachusetts. We can do it a whole episode about that because that was our high school hang out and there was a lot of misadventures to be had within those walls. Good memories to just happen to be. It's kind of like similar to what you say now, is the Great Memories, but there was a lot of fucking drugs and birds involved. Yeah, you know absolutely, man. We've had friends fucking. I had a friend overdose and dwires with we had to bring them back to life, but that's whole other story. But brought it back to life with an egg salt sand enery coke. But again, this is that is a story for another day. If anybody out there has any reminiscence about the raves. Yeah, I just say that. Reminiscence, reminiscence, and I'm still get up and yeah, but I was trying to do the are the ore should be like one of those clever guys, going to be like shadow Stevens. I guess I failed miserably. But anyway, if you do remember to reach out to us on twitter. Yeah, that selling out show. I monitor that account. I will find your shit. I am Dave. That is nate, and this has been selling out. He Sa Infirmary media. Give your mornings a...

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