Selling Out Show
Selling Out Show

Episode 2 · 4 years ago

Ep.#1 Hello, Hello, Hello


Hosts Dave and Nate begin by tackling the topic of Church. It's starts with wondering why there are no Christian Glam Rock Bands and ends with them discussing if an afterlife is worth wanting.
A mystery jogger with a serious case of the runs assaulted an alley in New Mexico and Selling Out has the scoop.
Nate has discovered an herb called Kratom. A natural remedy that may have the ability to help many people. What does it do and how long will we have access to it?
Dave makes a plea to 80's star Phoebe Cates, requesting her return to the public eye but gets side swiped by the Patrick Swayze flick Steel Dawn.
Nate reviews the Punk in Drublic Draft Beer and Music Festival headlined by NOFX.


2:30 Bowie would make me read the bible
8:20 Superstitions
9:44 Religious Weaponry
11:45 My Dad's Cult
15:00 Community
17:00 Not to Worship, Atheist vs Agnostic
20:30 The Afterlife


26:03 The Jogger
32:06 Kratom
43:09 Plea for Phoebe
53:07 Punk in Drublic Review

Are you happy here as a Schmum? You were. Now to get to the selling out podcast. When it does is beaches into your brain chemically and no, cat your happiest memory chemically and then blocks on that emotion and releases it chemically, and then it keeps your happy, happy. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the debut of selling out. I'm one of your host David Schultz, and with me I have my good friend Nike or Zinski, Nate. How are you not bad, Dave? It's been a good day. I've been doing a doing the domesticated life and bring two cats to get fixed this morning and then I've been doing yard work ever since. So exciting and keeping. Yeah, man, it's your wild masticated life. You're a wild man now. I did mention this is our debut and it's not just about getting your pets spade or neutered, which is which seems to be nate's life, but we're going to try to be unscripted, honest and hopefully topical and just kind of, you know, bring up stuff, are on philosophies, on things, because, listen, me and nate, we're no spring chickens. Okay, well, I mean in the grand scheme of things. I guess we are. We're just a blip on the radar right, but realistically we're hovering around the age of forty. We've lived some crazy lives and we kind of want to talk about not only that but again, how we feel about the world we live in in general. So every topic is on the table here, every time out. Nothing is taboo. We just want to talk to you. Absolutely this is this is just the perspective of too close to over the hill guys who burned burn the candle at both ends, so to speak. What is over the hill now? Is it still fifty, like if you go into a spencer gifts, is like the fifty year old, like you're an old fart. T shirts and cads still applicable, or what? I think? I think fifty is the the new sixty at this point. So we're good man. Everything's in blue something or other, isn't it? Absolutely yeah. So recently I relocated to Texas. I am from Massachusetts, as is nate, and interesting thing about living in Texas is it's very religious. There are tons and tons of churches here. I'm a just like nate. I'm domesticated, I'm a trade man, and my wife loves to put on Christian rock on the radio. Yeah, well, that's the thing. I'm not a very religious human being. I've never been overly religious at all. We're going to talk a little bit more about that as we go on, but it let me to wonder. I'm listening to this this music on the car radio. You know, it's okay, it's not bad. It doesn't like it's not like the what you would think Christian rock would be would should be like a gospel choir or something. They they use all kinds of genres here, rap, rb. But I started to wonder, was there ever a Glam rock Christian band and if not, why? Because that's the kind of music that would appeal to me. Yeah, good point. I mean, yeah, they that. That seems to be a thing for a while. They'd have like Christian metal. I saw a lot of Christian metal or Christian I've seen Christian hip hop, but you don't see Christian Glam like a like a David Bowie exactually. Yeah, of the religious set. They're okay, maybe a nickelback right, but they're not comfortable with themselves to come out all with glitter and say they're from another planet.

I've seen. I've seen Christian black metal, and black metal is stereotypically like satanic. But they just wanted to to invade that market. So well, that's not necessarily radio friendly either. Right, that's true. So, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, they could. They could be pulling in all the all the Bowie or t rex fans with the Glam you know, New York doll calls. I think, dude, I think that the clergy would get into the those types of outfits. I think with specifically the Christian Guard. Yeah, yeah, they're scared. They're scared of the Glam rock thinking that people are going to think their their door swings both ways, right, yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe they're afraid it cuts to too close to home. You know. Yeah, maybe, but you know, the whole thing isn't just about me wanting a Glam rock Christian band. It's just that church in general. Okay, I go to church, I mentioned I'm not religious. I don't have any religion. I often have to ask people what religion means what, because I have no idea. If you told me Christian or Catholic, I couldn't tell you the difference. I really could right. That's how ignorant I am. And you know, my family's Irish, so my grandmother was religious, my great grandmother. You go in their house, there was symbols of religious imagery and I still don't know what the hell it really symbolize or means. I just mentioned my wife. She's religious and she's the reason why I go to church and I sit through this stuff every Sunday. Yeah, just to appease her, more or less. Yeah, to keep her happy. You're not trying to save your soul. No, no, in contrast, I'm probably punching my ticket to hell a little bit faster, because when you're in church and you don't care about what they're talking about, you tend to look around and you know, I admire the stained glass. I'm like wow, that's really beautiful, and then you look over and you see like a, this is this is it. I'm on fire right now, nate. But you see like the hot soccer mom or something with her family. Go, look at that, look at her sure, look at that, look at that coug look at that one over there. They get dolled up, you know, for their Sunday best or whatever. Yeah, totally. Yeah, place to meet women, Dude. Well, you know, it's funny you say that because years ago I work with this guy. His name is Louis. I'll never forget him, and I was single at the time. He's like, Oh, man, I'm this is my terrible Puerto Rican accent for Louis. He's like, you want to meet the good girl, go to church. So many hot girls there. Men. Oh, they like to have fun, and I'm like, is he trying to is he a pimp, trying to sell me a girl in the street, or is he trying to recommend Christ? I don't really know what's going on here with this guy, but it in a way he was right. There's a lot of beautiful women. They go to church. You you got to like they seem to have a good self esteem. They appear to have their head screwed on right. So I don't know, but how about you? Did you ever go to church when you were a kid? Boy was your give us a little bit about your upbringing with with religion in church. Well, my dude, my folks, they tried for the beginning. They I was. I was brought up Catholic. My parents, my father's Polish, his whole family was like really Catholic my mother, take it or leave it. Byway, they brought me to Catholic Church at least long enough to get confirmed, which is like at age twelve or thirteen or whatever, and then they just kind of it fell off. They were like, all right, we did that, and now as as adults, like all right, as an adult, I talk to my parents about how bullshit the not to be too blunt, but religion is. and My mother, I don't know, she can't really explain why she brought me, other than the sense of tradition or whatever. But Yeah, man, I that's even even while going, I always was more just bored by the service. I figured it didn't make a lot of sense. And then once I learned that Santa Claus wasn't real, stop, how dare you say that? Spoiler alert. I didn't care about you being blunt saying all this shit. Belong religion sucks, you know, but to say Santa Claus isn't real, we have drawn the line in the sand. I'm sure there's a lot of young children listening to this show right now, I mean kids. Sorry, I don't...

...know. I'm not going to back pedal on now. Keep going. Yeah, you plow on through. Yeah, yeah, if your kids are listening to this, you got bigger pay than you're a terrible parent. You're a horrible human being. You know, I don't remember personally being taken to church much, unless someone died. One of my earliest memories of having to do anything with religion or God or or Satan or thinking about it, was I lived in an apartment with my mom and my dad and the toilet had kind of a long flush like and I remember I would flush the toilet and I would run to my room and I would say to myself, if I don't make it into bed before that sound ends, the resonation stops, Satan gets my soul. Wow, and I don't know where that came from. Dude. I still do stuff like that, like if I throw trash towards the paper, you know, the basket. It's like, if I make this, I'll get this or I'll you know, if not, I don't know what'll happen if I miss, but I know it's bad, you know what I mean, like but I still do that stuff. I don't know. Well, I was making a deal with the Devil at whatever, seven years old. Say Hey, if I don't make it in bed time, you can keep my soul for eternity. motherfucker. You know your your didn't go that. Yeah, I was going to say, what kind of deals are you making? When you miss a miss a hoop in the wastebasket, when you miss the Swish, you just think something bad is going to happen to you, like a piano is going to fall on your head. Dude, I just I just got problems, man. I don't know what it is, don't we all? Dude, I'm so atheistic in and non superstitious, but at the same time I have these weird little superstitions that persist and it's just I think it's just ingrained in us, you know. Yeah, just it's who we are. Do just quickly and then like talking, talking about religion. It's like and and things being ingrained and us. It's like, I feel like religion is one of many things in our society that is just there to enforce tribalism. There's this tribalism where it's US versus them, we should fear the other, and and and that goes into religion. It goes into right versus left politics, Doude, it goes into sports teams, like yeah, people that, yeah, that, will hate another person because they follow a different sports team. You know, people start fights, people kill each other, parents at their kids sports games. It's like that sense of tribalism is is it instills a healthy sense of competition perhaps, but at the same time it's keeping us from, you know, world peace, getting along. If I can get all Hippie dippie for a while, go for it, but you know, you know I'm saying. I feel like, as long as you remember Flash Gordon, when we were kids, sure, of course. Well, Mol Ming, the merciless kept control over all these kingdoms, all these whatever, all these areas by keeping them fighting amongst themselves, right and he just control them. And I feel like the right versus left, divide and, like I said, religion, all these things. It's it's easy for the people who are really empower which are the wealthy, the business owners, all these people, to control all of us. We're fighting over, you know, these little differences. I mean, I don't know, sports, teams, religions, it's all. It's not that different when you really get down to the nitty gritty. But I don't know, like the the similarities between us are greater than the differences. But at the same time, you know, I don't know, it's just it just keeps US distracted from paying attention to what the real shitbags in life are doing. Well, religion in itself is an easy weapon to wield right. It's an easy thing to sling it somebody. You know, I my theories are better than yours. My Book Is Better Than Your Book. It's a great way to manipulate people. And I know this firsthand because is when I was a kid, my father was a terrible alcoholic. He had a lot of problems. WHO's an abuser in his life? And he turned to something called the way international okay, which you thought was your traditional, you know, religion group or religious group on us again. I can't remember his Christian or Catholic.

I'd have to Google it, but they would do with the whole thing. was speaking in tongues and he would tell me my toys were demonic. I remember him smashing my magic eight ball saying this is Satan's device. You know, and I'm like Jesus Christ, two years ago you could barely mop yourself up the floor. You, you fucking Alky, and now you try to dictate to me what I can and cannot play with. But it was a cult. It was it was a very weird society and the good thing about it was he would take me to these meetings and I watch all these people say they were channeling Christ to them, which I found bizarre. Honestly. You're a kid, you know, eleven years old. You think it's weird when people started being like speaking gibberish and then afterwards like that was God telling me that I have a purpose, and you're like yeah, okay, but but you know what? They loved back to the future, my cony, sods a correct when this baby had any eight miles per hour. Gotta say some serious shit. They love this fucking movie. No, I did serious. So after they'd have their Bible reading and they're speaking in tongues, everybody would sit around with some popcorn and watch Michael J Fox just freaking kick it in one thousand nine hundred and eighty five and back to fifty five, and they thought was the best thing ever. And I loved that movie and I think that kind of grew from me going to these cult meetings with my dad. You know. So the the Church of Dr Emmett Brown yeah, pretty much great, Scott. So we praise you. But yeah, that was a good thing out of it. Still, I saw how it was just, okay, I've got problems in my life, I'm an evil person, but yet I can just turn, turn the cheek, turn a new leaf, and all of a sudden I'm like, Oh, I'm a holy person. And of course they have been proven to be a cult. They were stealing people's money, you know, the whole nine yards. But again, that's where I'm coming from. Where someone gives you an option, someone gives you an angle to say here, man, this is your ticket out of the gutter, this is the way, and people just follow it and absolutely and freaks me down. I'm so no, no worries. It just freaks me out a little bit. You know. Yeah, dude, people, people tend to do that. They they feel like something saved their life, whatever it is, whether it's a religion or selfhelp program or whatever, and then they feel as though they are now and they're now able to dictate what's best for everyone else and it makes them self righteous perhaps, and I feel like they root cause of a lot of these problems, whether it's addiction, like something your father had it. It's and I know personally it's a self centered issue and when you get clean that self centeredness doesn't necessarily go away. It's as you put the drugs down, replaced it with something else and you still a self centered piece of shit. Perhaps. Yeah, so I don't know, man, that's it's it's a tricky business man. It's good to get better, whatever helps you, but you don't know. It's just the underlying issues are pretty strong sometimes and they are there. And, to be perfectly fair, though, there are plenty of Nice people because, you know, I mentioned I go to church now because my wife, but I meet plenty of Nice, friendly folks. Absolutely, you know. No, I hear you the I feel like there's a great sense of community. We've going to church, all these things, but you can, you don't have to find it in church. You know what I mean? I I personally have ended up in the you know, my own twelve step program over. You know, we talked about having kind of crazy histories. Well, I ended up, you know, messing up and having to go to meetings and do my thing nowadays. Right, but the point is I get a sense of community that way. I you know, I mean I'm in bands. It's like I play music. There's community there. It's you don't need that religious thing. You don't. You don't need the fairytale to go with the sense of community is arms, and now you do not. And they, they, actually they learn you in with these great church names. You even notice a church name can never blend. So He's a house of light. Yeah,... know, worship or they use these these big grandiose wars, a sucking and how come this never just like, I don't know, Peach Church, Jimmy's church? Yeah, Smith, Smith Church. Actually, when I was a kid, my great grandmother went to a one called Saint rocks, which is pretty bland in comparison, but even then it sound a little strong, little powerful. They had a little scandal going on there too. That's the thing to you get a lot of distrust and, I hate to say it, mentioning that I've met a lot of Nice people at Church, in community and everything else we just talked about, but with all the scandals and everything else, you start just wondering, G I don't know, man, do I really feel safe there? Sometimes, even when the the face of everything looks warm and friendly and inviting and it's the world we live in. You got to give people the benefit of the doubt and if you like to worship, is your right to do so, but you also get to remember it's everybody else's right to do so as well, in any way that they see fit, right or not, to write again, and it's everyone else's right to believe whatever they want in and again, that's where that whole US versus them, tribalism is the issue. But well, you mentioned you're an atheist. I'm too lazy to be an atheist. I can't do it. See, I don't know. I hear that a lot. I hear this issue of like, well, I'll call myself an agnostic, because an agnostic sounds like I'm just a noncommittal atheist. But but I don't know. I listened to a lot of people that kind of describe it better and I've learned through listening to two different sources that the term atheist in the term agnostic describe different things. The term agnostic to me, to ascribes what do I know? The turn the root word GNOSIS. It means knowledge in Greek or whatever, and so agnostic means not having knowledge. So to me that it the term agnostic means do I know whether there's a god or not. So I'm agnostic and most people are. The term atheist asks what do you believe? and to me I don't believe. I don't have I haven't seen the evidence brought forward that there's some supernatural mover, you know, first cause whatever, some mover right. So to me it's a question of how do I live my life? I live my life as though there isn't a God because I haven't seen evidence. Thus I don't believe. Thus I'm an atheist. But some people, I don't know. Some people just don't understand the difference. Like I can't do that, nate. I can't live every days if there were no god, because I'm so fucking lazy that it just makes me feel like I'm a useless thing, this blob of flesh thrown upon, this mud ball spinning around the sun. Was the point of it all? Because it's not like every day I live my lap, my day like it's my last, or I'm motivated to do a bunch of stuff. So it's like, I don't know, it's so much like if you believe in God or something like. Well, there's someone's going to a plan for me? MM, yeah, I sure as hell don't, but someone else does write it relieves a little responsibility. Yeah, sure as hell does, man. Yeah, well, we'll see. To me, I feel like I'm I don't know. I guess that makes sense, because it's because the the current thing is to believe in God but not have a specific denomination. Like you. Hear a lot of people say, well, I believe in a god or some kind of unifying force or something, and they don't want to I don't know. And by doing that you don't have to agree to go. Okay, every Sunday I gotta go do this in my morning every I got to read this book every so off and I gotta eat certain thing. It's like you can just say, well, I believe in a God. You can be lazy, you can be a lazy believer like you, but to me I feel like I'm so lazy now, actually too. I was going to try and make something funny about that, but to be honest, man, I just I just don't see the evidence. Man. If if there were some evidence for something supernatural, something other than what can be defined with our scientific methods, we would have heard about it by now. Whether it's God, whether it's ghosts, whether it's whatever, I don't know. I just feel like there would be some kind of evidence by now. That would be big money. Somebody discovered that for the first time, they would have made a...

...lot of money and cashed in. Humanities to too selfish to pass up the chance to make a buck with with actual evidence. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I right. So I've always been freaked out by the whole concept, though, of like the afterlife. That's really terrified me for the majority of my existence because when you're a kid you get told hey, you know, you're a good guy, you do what you're supposed to do and you get to live in eternity with happiness and your family and everything else. And I started thinking about that. I'm like, use living forever necessarily a good thing? And then too, your family, some family members I'm not very fond of. Do I really want to hang out with them like forever? Yeah, and do they have Netflix in heaven? Is Your Netflix? Is Her Amazon? Because to me that would be a good eternity if I can just order comic books forever and watch cool documentaries. I'm a huge documentary guy on Netflix what is happiness? What is eternal happiness? We don't know. What does that mean to people? To you, evidently, eternal happiness means Netflix and chill forever. Yeah, it's just an extension of my normal lazy routine. Absolutely, you know. And I don't want to hang out with my uncle where, you know, especially the weird one from Thanksgiving who wasn't the blood uncle. Is he invited to because he's always trying to like French kiss my mom? Yeah, I know he's in Hell. Oh, good, all right, so I'm safe. All right, he doesn't want to come over and watch, I don't know, always Ark or something on my cloud. Right. I used to have panic attacks about that, though, because I was like, who wants to live forever? Dude, I remember. You used to be the type that would that. You know, you you are afraid to like smoke pot for a while because you'd be like, Oh, if I smoke, I just think about death. Like wow, you're more of the dude. Yeah, way to bring up the room, Dave. Yeah, we're all fucking hitting bombs and you're talking about, yeah, the end of all days, you know, and luckily, with age. You know, I had a I had a kid and that mellowed me out. It gave me kind of like a sense of purpose and it distracted me from like myself. I stopped thinking about like, what about me? What about my soul? What about this? You start thinking about, you know, this life that you created and being the best person you can be for him. And we have a good friend named Dave and Taia. I hope he isn't my name dropping him. We call him floyd, and one day I kind of kept it, like my full extent of my feelings and panic attacks a secret, like you guys knew was about death and stuff, but I felt like it was like a plague. If I explained it to somebody else, they would be cursed, thinking the same way that I thought. I didn't want to do that to somebody else, you know, infect him. No, right, and here I am tell everybody on the podcast now, Hu motherfuckers. It's like the ring. Yes, friend, let's exactly. But Floyd, you know, in just a typical for you guys who don't know him, he's a very matter of fact kind of guy. He's very thoughtful guy, and he said, listen, he goes, dude, what are you gonna do about it? He's like, what can you do about it? Live for today, stop projecting, stop doing this, and it was so weird because all my life I needed that and it took me opening up and sharing with someone I trusted and then to give me a really simple answer and I felt really good about it ever since and I don't have panic attacks anymore. Dude, floyd is zen like that. He infected you with his goodness. Yeah, totally. It was great. so He's like that. Man. Yeah, it's great. So I maybe we can have them on the show sometime. Maybe he'll hop on and love sell out with us. You know, dude, unfortunately he's got a kid to now and unfortunately all of us did. It's fortually. He's running kid and I don't know for it's like, God bless him. You know, it got invisible. God bless him. Huff the Magic Dragon. Yeah, and dude, but but it's funny. The listeners don't understand the three of us. You talk, we're talking about floyd. The three of us were in this band and are. Our slogan back in the day used to be steel, do drugs. Fuck yeah, and that was how, you know, that was kind of the the the motto for Life Back then. Three round. Yeah, yeah, now all three of us are raising children, doing doing yard work and shit, and it's kind of crazy, but...

I don't know. That's the point of the podcast. I guess selling out. You know, it's like, who would have thought if, when we were kids, we would have looked at our grown up selves and said, you sell out, you sold out to the Aga. Exactly. Yeah, you know, that's why I say, if you eighteen year old self, mate, you forty year old self, what would happen? He would look at you and be disgusted. He'd be like you, you're fucking joke, you sold out, and then you look at him and go, you moron, what are you doing? You know, I would say to my younger self it's better to fade away than to burn out. Yeah, true, no, that's the thing is. Back then you thought, well, Kurt cobain's the coolest man, I want to leave a legacy behind. Now you like, no, I don't want to leave anything behind, I just want to live. Dude, absolutely, you know, he was dead at twenty seven, like, like so many other people, I look back, I'm like, twenty seven, I wasted my year. Twenty seven, I dude, I think I was in jail all year when I was twenty seven. Yeah, like I I don't know. I had a lot of wasted years back then. If I died that early I'd be pretty pissed off, man. I would have missed out. Yeah. Well, we're deviating a little bit off the church topic here and but that's it's going to proms prone to happen with us. But free form. I don't do you have anything else you want to say about the topic of Church or religion right now or anything off the top of your head? Not at all, man. I think I think we've covered it. Okay, cool. Well, I do want to say to anybody out there WHO's checking us out if you have any thoughts on this and the opinions on this, you can find us on twitter at selling out show, or you can contact this via email, selling out show at GMAILCOM. We always want to hear from you. If if you have any topics you want us to kind of go on and ramble about and want to hear our opinions on, feel free to send those to us as well. I like news. Do you like news? I Love News, you love it. It's always bad news, right. News called the bad news. The bad news bears. It's always bad. You turn on the news of the got Fu, Fu, fuck, fuck, fucking. Then then they showed like the last two minutes, someone saved a cat from a tree and you go and then they go out, someone's Dad. You Go, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. So in my travels is scouring the Internet for kind of fun stuff. I came across this story from coat seven on Youtube about a jogger in Knob Hill, New Mexico, who has a serious case of the runs. Let's listen in. Well, then caught on security camera, we're leaving herself next to a house and Knob Bill, and it's not the first time. K Newton access of his Portablissa, Colorado, has too hard to believe. Video and dug and shelley. At first the man who lives in at home thought maybe it was a homeless person. Maybe it was a one time accident when a security cameras caught the same young one or pooping right next to his house. Yet again, it was time to hand a video to us. I like that. It was time to hand the video to us. Yeah, after he's used it for his personal pleasure before times than we probably cared to admit. You know, how long did he have it before he decides to give it to the news and he's like, I'm done with this. Yeah, it served his purpose, if you know what I mean. It's Easter Sunday. A young woman on her morning run. She makes a turn jogging towards this alley. Then a security camera catches this, drops her pants and let's go put her shorts back up without any wipe, nothing else. The man who lives at the home did not want his face on camera and wants us to call him bobby. I bet you his real name is bobby. He's couldn't think of anything better at the time. Probably man. This is malicious fecal distribution. Malicious fecal distribution, nate, that's that's a mouthful. That's a I don't know, that's that's horrible that you just said that. The Times malicious fecal distribution and mouthful in the same sense. I'm just copying with Bobby said it was. I didn't come up with that. I'm not smart enough to come up with that, bobby. You throw you through mouthful in there. Oh yeah, I like how it's malicious, though, like compared to what is here like a good natured fecal yeah, just accidental. She still distribute people distrivices. Sorry about...

...that spontaneous fecal distribution. This is fucking she's come back multiple times, at least four times. Bobby says he has no idea who she is and why his home has become her personal toilet. Bobby says she always strikes on weekend mornings. In fact, his security cameras caught her once again this past Saturday. So I guess even even these dump runners, he's even malicious fecal people, whatever wo to call them, get a case of the Monday's, to the point where they they can only strike on the weekend. Huh? They let loose on the weekends. They let their hair down, shit in the yards. Well, I guess she's easy to find. Yeah, everybody's working for the weekend. Yo, you got that right. I saw this little blond girl running down the street and I was like, Oh my God, that's that's got to be hurt. Unsure. Bobby left his home and did some errands. When he came back, the evidence was there. This is calculated. Look looked, look I'm dropping my pants as I'm running. He's hoping this story makes whoever the culprit is stop once and for all. If it happens again, I want to run out there with the hose and hoser down and say bad human. I like how Bobby's response to dealing with this is probably the way he deals with all of life's issues. He's like, I didn't get that raise I wanted, so I sprayed my boss down and tone lash him as if he was a dog. Bad human. Yeah, bad boss, barb, bad, bad, come get you water. Now. Bobby has not called police and made a complaint. He says he's not sure if police will take this seriously. We reached out to APD. It's possible if this woman is caught, she could be charged with a misdemeanor for public nuisance or disorderly conduct. Imagine you get the luck, and I mentioned this to you in the past, like you meet a girl in a bar and she's really hot. She's out of your league. Well, for some reason she's interested in you and you're like Oh wow, man, what's going on here? And then I'm like she must lead like a secret double life that makes her available to a guy of your caliber and for you you like wow, this this girl's great, but then she turns out to be the secret KNOB. He'll poop runner, NAT KNOB. He'll poop runner in New Mexico and you like fuck. You know, I thought I was onto something here. This is going to be a great life. I was going to have a gonna get married, but she just likes to defecate in people's lawns on the weekends. That nobody's perfect. Yeah, you still do? You still going to bring her home to mom? You got to be careful. She might do something on the lawn. We don't know. I don't know. Is that a deal breaker? You know, I for me kind of this. Yeah, twenty years ago, maybe not, but now, yeah, I don't know. Maybe bobby might be into this, might be a this might be a romantic story. In the end it'll turn out bobby's found the love of his life, just you and as such a sweet story to tell your kids someday. How did you? How did you and Mommy meet? Well, she was shitting in my yard and I hosted her down. You know the rest of his history. This is just a weird news stories actually from I didn't say this from the jump, but this is from like five years ago. So I wonder. I haven't seen any updates online. Where are they now exactly? We need an update. We need an update. We need to know where she ever caught. She go into hiding. You she liked the UNI bomber, living in a cabin up in the wood, somewhere seemingly normal. We don't know. So if anybody out there here's more stories like that, make sure you send them into us. We'd like to cover them on the show and we get some more stuff going to talk about. But first a word from our fake sponsor. This is crack rock cocaine. It isn't glamorous or cool kids stuff. It's the most addictive kind of cocaine and it can kill you. It's really bad. Is Nobody knows how much it takes, so every time you use it you risk dying. It isn't worth it. Look, everybody wants to be cool, but doing it with crack isn't just wrong, he could be dead wrong. All right,...

...everybody, I hope you listen to Peewee, follow his life lessons there and make sure you stay off the crack. Yes, always listen to Pew always listen to Pe we, especially when it's about crack cocaine. But you know, it's kind of funny that was played, because I need I need to pick them up every once in a while. I'm up. Sure, be twelve guy. I take the vitamin supplements to kind of get me moving and shaken. But recently you had told me about something that you have tried. Yeah, and it's been working out pretty good. What's the stuff called again? All right, so it's called Kretom, rdomly are yeah, Kr atom kind of sounds like Kratos from God of Yeses, scrown o doom. Yeah, yeah, kreatos is SCROWNOM Kretom. That's how to remember it. I can imagine ingesting that. We give you a warrior's nut sack strength. Yeah, totally, absolutely, man. No, I swear by the stuff. It's funny. You hear about all these like herbal supplements. Are you here about these like synthetic weed and all this crap, that most of it's just useless garbage. But, dude, I gotta say Kretom is it's worth all the hype and everything like. All right, full disclosure to our listeners. I have struggled for, you know, the last few decades, really embarrassingly with my own substance abuse issues, you know, specifically heroin, and you know that's that's story for another day. We can write about that, Yep. But but anyway, have, you know, tried different things? I've been on Methodone, I've been on some box and different substitution therapies and whatnot. Right go to me, things do all this stuff. But I got to say, man, I'd heard a lot about Kreedom in this within the last year or so, and it's this. It's basically it's like a leaf from a tree that grows in like Thailand or Vietnam, somewhere out there and the South Pacific. May that to interrupt you, but you mentioned that. Sure, you know, with the struggles and everything. Now you heard this. What in the community like with recovery from other DIS is? Yeah, where'd you get W into this? I caught win of this from, I think the first place I really heard about it was just online. I got okay, you know the yeah, the way the Internet is set up now, they notice what type of sites you're visiting or what type of things you you and Oh yeah, they send stuff your way. So all of a sudden I'm getting videos and ads for all this Kretum stuff and I watched enough of them where people said, look this stuff. First of all, like I said, it's a it's a leaf. It's just it's not some kind of processed thing. It's just a crushed up leaf that you get. You you mix it in a tea or you swallowed in a pill, and it's totally like some natural stuff. You can get a extracts which are stronger, but anyway, the point is it works on the same receptors that opiates do, but it's not an opiate, which basically means if you have an opiate dependency, if you get sick without opiates, this will actually keep you from getting sick. It will kind of satisfy that craving without being on an addictive drug. Cretum is not addictive. It's not you're not able to overdose on it. It's fairly safe, like the worst thing that's going to happen is you're going to Puke. But well, why, you know, why would you've on it? Because you over ingested or because, yeah, yeah, if you take too much of it. I mean, yeah, it's just like anything. If you take too much time on all, you're going to throw up. If you take too much. You know what I mean. If you drink too much coffee, you're going to feel shitty. Yeah, okay, all right, I didn't know if it's like a side effect. I didn't know. Okay, it's nausea is not like a usual side effective. I'm just saying if you take way too much of it. And but for people that struggle with substance abuse and for people who don't it, it provides not only like a substitution for those opiates, but it it honestly...

...does just kind of give you this sort of positive feeling. You feel very it's you don't feel high. It's not like it doesn't inhibit. It doesn't. You don't feel sloppy, you don't feel high, you don't feel, you know, not fucking you up. Yeah, as you're not getting fucked up. Maybe it's more that you're just upbeat. You feel positive and I don't know, I like that. It's like a yeah, it's like a mood stabilizer. I don't know if any of our listeners have, like have tried Gab a, Penton or neurt and it's a certain type of psych mead that people get that gives you like a positive sort of feeling. This feel similar to that. If you're not familiar with that, whatever the you know, Google it, take it out. Google it, yes, but but I strongly recommend it. It's been helpful and that's really all I want to say about it. It's just been it's been kind of a lifesaver for me and I recommend it to others. We're not sponsored by any KREATUM distributors, but you know, it would be great if some of them some day did sponsor where you go, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. There you go. Yeah, I mean, I got to try it. I'd like to try it because I'm always looking for that that pick him up. And I mentioned I've had a couple back surgeries in my life and any time after my backs would you I've always been prescribed percoset, which is an oping drug, and of course it gets too high makes you feel good, but that's not the effect. I really liked the most about it. I like how it made me sociable, and I am already to a degree. I'm not the kind of guy who's hangs his head when he walks around like nobody likes me. But the same time, sometimes you go to the market. Maybe you don't want to talk to you, the cashier, but when you're right on these certain drugs, it's I mean the percosets and maybe like how you doing today? Good to see it, boy, you are one hell of a cashier. Did you go to cashier school? Yeah, so I kind of miss that in my life. And this stuff is legal. It is as of now. The US show is like with so many other you know, herbal remedies or even marijuana. It's like big farm is trying to quash that really quick. It's like it's started to become popular within the last couple of years and at the same time there's all this talk about scheduling it as a drug, as as an opiate, as this and that. But honest to God, man, it's like you can, you can still find it now, and I recommend getting some while you can, because who knows what's going to happen. But yeah, man, it's really done a lot. Stock Up, Phil you to hell your bomb shelter. Yeah, this stuff, because they're going to ban it. Yeah, you take it away. Limited growing, we said, you sigh, is grown in like Vietnam or something. Yeah, man, I saw some special where it's it's funny because out there, believe it or not, the place that grows it, these people have trees in their yards and they'll just they'll just pull the leaves off the trees and chew them. But their government is cracking down, where like, if the government finds out you have a tree in your yard, they'll they're starting to crack down like that type of that place, you know, the section of the world if you get caught smoking a joint, you might go to jail for the rest of you, you know what I mean, like like Singapore, tile like that. Asia is kind of weird with drugs and they yeah, it's like people just grow a tree in their yard, banking on the fact that the cops aren't going to notice. And Yeah, they chew it like it's, you know, like it's their morning coffee. They chew a leaf whatever. Huh. And I'm surprised by the drug laws there, because is it like an Asia? We can buy like a cat's tail or, like a yaks? I don't know. You you know what and that's what you know on. Is that kind of fucking out there too? Yeah, but there's a difference between like weird old remedies and like psychoactive substances. And sure, this doesn't. This doesn't get you high. It's like, yeah, you can buy a Ya's liver and chew on it for your to get an erection out there, but you're not necessarily able to, like I said, smoke a joint. And is that legit or you just...

...make that up? No, I'm not what the yeas deliver. Yeah, no, I'm just okay, so I'M gonna go down one right now. I'm gonna go find a yacht. Y'All, pekaht. We're offending everybody. It's okay, that's what we're here for. I mean refer this is the first show. We already came out swinging. We talked about Church and then we talked about the mad pooper and the run, and now we're talking about this crazy stuff. So this is what you get. You know, hey, it's free. The show is free. APS to this is what you looking yeah, what do you want? Yeah, exam. What do you want? What do you want from us? Come on, at least you're recommending something, though, that might actually help some people out there's that's that's good. Trying listen. I'm going to start the Church of Kreatum. We're talking about churches, man. Oh Yeah, I am a prophet for this shit. I'm telling that sounds evil, though. The Church of Kreatum, that Shuch of creatum, the sounds sinister, it really does. We, we worship Kratos, is screwed them. Imagine the stained glass and that one. Huh Big the mural. Yeah, Qu a mural. They got their big old set of that hang langs. Yeah, Cretum is our sacramental herb, kreatum. So yeah, no, I'm definitely going to try it, though. Dude, do it. You can get it online. You can find dude, I find it in like certain smoke shops, like you go to a hedshop. Well, I live in Massachusetts still, and Massachusetts is on this verge of like legalizing marijuana recreationally. It's technically legal, but there's head shops, there's all that shit to sell pipes, but you still aren't seeing it in stores yet. It's in this weird gray area. But the point is you go to the head shops and one thing you you will find is Kreatom, but it's a lot more expensive at the stores. So I would look online, as is usually the case writing things. See I don't do all that whacky tobaccy anymore because, you know, I'm I'm a responsible adult. I couldn't even think about smoking grass anymore. When as a kid, you Lord, we used to Whoo. But now, yeah, but now forget about I don't touch the stuff, but I do vape and it's ad a smoking traditional cigarettes. Yeah, so, yeah, I hear what you're saying. We're is all everything's cheaper online when you vape, all the supplies everything. There's no sense, and I'm sorry to the brick and mortar store owners, but the cost is too damn high. So you really you got to go on Ebay, you got to go wherever and buy your stuff from the online vendors. So I'll do that. I'll go check it out online. It's a fact, Jack. I just want to make sure. Again, I want to make sure it's legal, because I don't want, like, any funny packages come to my house and then. So, no, G men, shut up my doors. Hey, what you got there? Would you guys have now? As of now, you should still be good, man. That's well, okay, cool. So, yeah, everybody check that out too, if you have any I wonder about pain issues. So I still have a lot of back pain. I wonder if it helped me at all with that or just the mood? No, they say that. It does that. Say It's got pain killing properties, it's got anxiety wow curing properties. Yeah, it's dude, it's it's it's pretty amazing. This is how I know it will be banned, because it does good stuff. If something does good for people, someone has to control it. Always, absolutely right. Absolutely, yeah, totally. Now I want to switch things up a little bit. Now. You like how we just taken these sharp right turns after every top? We can talk about you know, slam the brakes here, take the corner. But PHOEBE Kates, phoebe fucking Kates, has been crossing my mind lately, that little prick. Why wouldn't you? Well, that's the thing. She's been gone from public consciousness for such a long time. She hasn't made a movie in forever, right, but when I was younger, I mean if you think of the s and you think of the hottest, most beautiful, a one steaks sauce, gorgeous girl of the S if Phoebe Kates. So No, I won't argue with No. Who Can? I dare I'd if you want to argue with me right as contact me, tweet me, at me, I don't give a fuck. I dare you too. Okay, and so we've seems like we... everything. We mentioned that where we're googling your herb I was googling the news and of course, sponsor us, Google sponsors. Yeah, right, yeah, that's going to happen. If so, I still I looked her up. So I'm like, I want to what happened to her. You know, and we all know, she married Kevin Kleine, talented actor, great actor, but a complete douchebag. For taking her away from us should be a crime against humanity. And you see her now. She's a mom, she's older and, good God man, has she aged? Well, wow, yeah, you think about one of those, Dude. You think about the other actresses in the S, albeit at some of them a little bit older, like Kathleen Turner, beverly D'Angelo, or or you think about maybe you some closer her age. I can Ali sheety. Right, yeah, they look like Shit. They look terrible, man, they fallen the fuck a pot age. Nothing fucks you like time. Right, no, it doesn't. It really didn't know it is crazy. So how she's held up and looks so good at her age blows my mind. What is your secret, Phoebe Kretum? Yeah, maybe it's the Cretum, the I don't know. I don't know what it is, but I really want her back. I want her to she was a talented actress too. Great. Yeah, absolutely. Now, I brought this up to you when we're doing preplanning for the show. We're going to talk about and you had mentioned dude choose in this movie called Paradise with the Dude from Charles and Chage, yeah, and Buddy Buddy, yeah, Daddy from Charles and Jack and so I looked it up and my God, holy cow, I even though it was. How long ago? Those the early S. Yeah, it was like one thousand nine hundred and eighty ten. I still feel like a dirty old man look at these pictures. I'm like, Jesus, sweets, Mammal Jam and you, I know, but but you feel bad watching the yeah, exactly. So I'm like, well, you know, I'm going to watch that movie. I'm gonna Watch it. That's what I'm going to do. And you know what happened to me was I was like, I'm going to look it up, I'm going to watch I'm going to rent it, whatever. And instead I was just flipping through the channels and I ended up watching steal dawn from Patrick swayze instead. That's a total right turn. There exactly. Speak of this totally fucking going off the rails here. And Steal Dawn, for those who don't know, it's from eighty seven. Patrick swayze has a little rat tail. Is is after world war three, post apocalyptic movie, and it's the worst hunk as shit, one of the worst hunk hunks of shit ever made. Wait, are you? Are you talking to steal down or red do? No, Steal Dawn. No, red down was good, dude. He did to post apocalyptic. Yeah, and s movies. You Gel done and look up. Look up steal dawn. Yes, he did, Jesus, and he plays a guy named nomad. Just just to warn you. That's almost this badasses snake cliss they well, no, snake bliskin peep. That's popular. People Love Snake, absolutely love her Russell. But who's going to remember no mad from Steal Dawn? Nobody. And it was like so bad I couldn't turn away. Yeah, and I'm my intention was to watch some phoebe Kates that night. Yeah, man, swayze will do that, man, I'm telling you, dude, I'm sorry, but he was not a good actor. He was not in this movie. I don't know his wife was in this movie too. There's it was just the villain was just a guy with a British accent. There was like the Worst Mad Max ripoff clone movie ever. Wow, man, but yeah, I don't think I've ever seen that one. Anyway, listen, if you see it, you don't see it, not a big deal. But let's all join together and make a plea to phoebe to return. Kevin Kleine, you oppressive son of a bitch. Set Her free. Let the world have that, not just you, not just you. Free Phoebe. You know, I appreciate the fact you were in Dave. I watch that many times. You remember that movie, Dave? Yeah, of course that's that, dude. Dave is one of those movies that made Donald Trump possible. I'm sorry, it's one of those movies. How do you mean? I just mean anybody could be president. It was about an every man who went into the...

...end. was like, Oh, some every man could go in there and fix everything, and I'm not saying Donald Trump's and every man, and I know this is a tangent, but just quickly, man Dave. Dave screwed up our perception of, like our faith in politicians, because it was all of a sudden became well, anybody could do that job and do a better job than those people. And here you are, but an M I disagree. I disagree, though, because I see, I see what you're saying. But the point of Dave, and I can't believe we're debating this right now, was he was a compassionate human being. Sure, he had a moral core, he was someone who cared about people. He was an ad right, you know. So that that's where that came from. There Donald Trump thing to me is like if, tomorrow, and this is what this what Donald Trump's presidency gives me hope for, is that tomorrow I can walk into an emergency room, it's say I'm a neurologist, I'm the best neurologist ever, I'm a fucking surgeon, the best you've ever seen, believe me, and they're going to say, Oh, Dr Schultz, thank you for coming in, please open up this man's head. Rack that fucking Nogg and open open that coconut like nobody's business. Because if this guy can just say I'm the best, I'm this and that fucking Blah Blah Blah, and become president, that means all of us can be whatever we want to be just by saying it. Wild. Huh? Yeah, we're silver lining type people, man. Yeah, because that's still, you know. Well, I'm not saying that's a good thing, but it gives us hope, you know. Yeah, any in this age of reality TV, anyone can be a star, or I was going to say in the age of this presidency, where nobody has any hope whatsoever. It's been sucked out of US terribly. That's the one thing we can all plan on is tomorrow we can be anybody we want thanks to this fucking, this idiot. But I'm not here to talk about that. I'm here to talk about Phoebe and I think this weekend I'm going to have a movie marathon. I will watch paradise, I'll watch Gremlin's were fast times every found time. Yeah, my gotch drop dead. Fred. That was gon to be last. I don't care. Do you think I should watch it first or last? Because, like, maybe get it over with you. I don't know. I'm the kind of guy like if I eat bacon and eggs, I say that one piece of Bacon till right till they INC is Bacon's my favorite and that's the last bite I want to have. Sure. So maybe I should save you saying fast times for the end. Okay, you think save paradise for the end, then well, that's what I'm not familiar with. So I'm not sure what I'm going to get out of it other than, you know, a little bit of spank banking. Yeah, you know, that might be I don't know, that sounds like bacon to me, Dude. The way to finish it up, the great way to finish your mail and me some Napkins please. But again, I want to encourage anybody who's listening to the show, if you have any suggestions on this or anything else, anything we've talked about, hit us up on twitter at selling out show or via email, which people seem to use, I guess now more than that snail mail. We should get a snail mail address. I want people to send me a letter. My Baby, she wrote me a letter. I will sign up for a landline. Next Land Line a newsletter, but I you can hit us up at selling out show, at GMAILCOM, if that's your preferred way of talking to us, which I hope you will. All right now, were you a telegraph? Oh yeah, that'd be good. Messenger Pigeon, sure, I'm gonna get a pigeons going to show the express. Yeah, I was gonna saying pig is going to show up my windows. Still, I'm gonna hear Peck, Peck, Peck. I'm going to open it up like well, I look at that, there's a note tie this little pigeon here and as if a pigeon would stand still, I will take it off its leg and it will say watch, drop dead, Fred Third Sen sent you got sent the Raven from winter fell. They said, check out paradise last. Yeah, make sure you do that. Make sure nobody's home. Lock the doors. Yeah, okay. So all right now, let's do another word from a fake sponsor and we come back. You're going to talk some Musach test pilot Tuck Pendleton wants to make history. Supermarket Clerk Jack putter needs a vacation...

...late. That's not good. You know, it's cool day. Lieutenant Pendleton is about to be miniaturized, placed into this needle and then injected into this rabbit. Back at all. But something went wrong and talks about to get a new destination inside Jack putter. I'm not a man, can you hear me? No, Jack's got twice the problems, but he's double the man with Tuck on his side, tout in his gut and on his case. You're not going to back go through all your life are yet jack, and only twenty four hours left for Jack to get out of danger so that talk can get out of Jack, Dennis quait Martin Short, give yourself a shot. All that adventure inner space. Okay, needy, needy. Anybody ever call you nay before? I don't think I've ever even called you Nady. That was a weird thing to say. Yeah, sometimes I might be a first. Yeah, she just flies out of my face for some unknown reason. But, nates, you love the Musac you love the music. You like to rock outs, something I've kind of lost my handle on. As a teenager, I loved the tunage. Now less and less. I'm more of a talk radio kind of guy. But you're still out there. Yeah, I know, I know, but you are too, but you're in the scene. Man, your hip, you're with it. Dude. I will say, man, I'm I'm still pretty active in music. I still look for new music, I'm still excited by music, I still play music, I'm still in a t'm in a couple bands right now and I and I love all kinds of music. Dude. The last, just quickly, the last four concerts I went to where Dr Rockta guns reunion tours as like a hip hop show. I went to see iron and wine, which was like a folky neo folk type mellow music right on. I went to see cattle decapitation, which was an incredible death metal extravaganza, awesome show, and I just wanted to talk about today, the last show. I went to this weekend to see no effects and bad religion, few bands from our youth, right, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, and the concert this weekend was called the PUNK and Drublic Festival. PUNK and Drublic was an album by no effects back in like ninety three. It's like their classic out on their big biggest selling album, and they decided, twenty five years later whatever, to do this festival where they toured with a few punk bands and, in keeping with the title, punk in Drublick, the play on drunken public. Visually they had it was a also a craft beer tasting festival, so there were, yeah, there were tons of tent set up with different breweries and displaying their wares, and you got a Little Cup as you walked in the door with your admission and you could sample got hundreds of beers and they let you do that for the first like four hours of the show and after that you had to buy them. So they got you started and made a lot of money off people, yeah, who were, yeah, trying to keep the party going, but but anyway they'll put. The point is the music, dude. There were so many good bands that they the interrupters, were a band I wasn't super familiar with. Their incredible but bad religion, tried and true punk band and from God started in like one thousand nine hundred and eighty and there's still I got to say, man, they were one of the best. These dudes are in there. They're probably sixty at this point and it was one of the best performances I can remember seeing. These guys are just masters of their game, like melodic punk rock from the S...

...and s two thousand they're still doing it and they're they're just there's a reason they're still doing it. They're amazing. So I was most excited about seeing no effects. No effects. They're funny group of guys. You go see him live, they're, you know, High Energy Punk Rock. Plus they're just, I don't know, they have a type of banter on stage that's like, you know, it's kind of their thing at this point. They've been doing it for thirty years at least in right and by now they just, you know, people respect them as these kind of personalities, not just musicians. So the singer Fat Mike specifically over these last like fifteen, twenty years has kind of developed a little bit of a substance abuse issue of his own. Okay, yeah, there. It's funny because back in the s early S, their drummer was a heroin addict and cleaned up and then years later the singer, who never really was a drug user into his S, decides to start partying and now he's so at a control role. You never know what you're going to get when you go see them live. So and he's playing a festival where booze is being doled out like nobody's business. Absolutely, that's the point. It's like, so I do. To be honest, I kind of expected it to be a shit show. Like I went there, I expected to see some funny dudes on stage trying to play songs through their alcoholic haze, and that's that's what I got, man. You know, some people were disappointed. We went. I went with a good friend of our, well, a few good friends of ours, and they both seemed a little disappointed because they felt like at this stage in no effects's career they should be more professional, they should be able to, you know, remember the lyrics to their own songs and, you know, not be fucked up on stage wasted like you know they that should have been years ago. was that phase the band right? Right? You would think so, but you know, I went there kind of expecting to see a sloppy punk show and that's what I got. The songs they got through were awesome. The songs that he forgot the lyrics to were amusing. It was like, to me, it was like watching a bunch of clowns on stage, and I don't mean that disrespectfully. It was amusing, like it was, yeah, like I said, high energy. It was, you know, they're really good song writers. So the like. It just felt like watching a bunch of D runk friends play music, and that's pretty much what it was. And I had a really good time. And you get to drink a lot of beer. Yep, it was. And it was all with the price of admission. I literally you did not buy a beer for those first like four hours. You could just, you know, drink your fill. Oh, right on. Yeah, it was a it was a great time, man. So it was fun. You had fun. Like you said, some people judged it because, you know, they were having the band itself was having a little bit too much fun. Yeah, but you like that element of it. You you know, you had a good time. So I enjoyed it. That's my point. And you know, are they still touring with this? is still going around the country, or was it like a onetime deal? was what's up with that tour? I believe there's a few more dates. I know it was a pretty limited run. There were maybe like eight dates throughout the whole country. Huh, pulling that number out of my ass, but it was something like that, like less than ten dates. And Yeah, and they this was probably the third or fourth stop on the tour and yeah, it was already a mess. Well, if you missed it. If you missed it, it sucks to be you, but you can still drink beer in your house. Pop on that. I was going to say the CD, but to people even have CDs anymore, pop on the old tunes and rock out of no EFX and break shit in your house. Right, right, right. I'm glad you go to...

...concerts. Man, I like this. I like living vicariously through other people. Dude, I'm keeping the dream alive. Man. I love the band the flaming lips, right, and I was done in Mexico for a while and they were playing a festival close to my house, not within walking distance, but like maybe a ten minute drive. And Wow, my wife's like, Oh, you love the flame lips, you should go, and I was like, I gotta buy a full ticket, I only want to see one band. And then we get to find pack in and you know you got to buy water when you there and this, and I'm like Nah, now I'm going to pass. I'm just going to listen to the music. I don't need to go to the show. And I thought to myself, man, this is kind of like to the whole thing we talked about. Forty meeting eighteen, right, I would have cut off my fucking left foot to see that show twenty years ago and now like ten minutes from Your House. It drive, yeah, or whatever. You're eighteen year old self would have kicked your ass. Oh Yeah, oh, yeah, totally. But now I'm like, yeah, I don't know. But I think back in that go well some of the reasons why I'm not crazy into going to shows anymore. And I was like two reasons, one of which was Evan Dando, right, because I saw Evan Dando in Portland, Maine. I was what, eighteen years old, and after the show I met him and I was like, dude, remember, yeah, I was like, Dude, the music you've done, the stuff you do with Gibby Haines and the ball surfers, and he didn't give a fuck. He did not want to talk to me. All he wanted to do is make out with underage girls. And you know, I don't blame him. You're a rock star, all you want is some ass. And there's an interesting night because we walk through the streets of Portland. He was playing guitar, are we're all behind him. A bunch of kids like a band of Merriman, and we all went back to his hotel. I didn't go up to his hotel, but the girls did. Of course, yeah, of course. And then radiohead. We saw radiohead Boston and we all got on the subway and it was crammed. It was terrible, it was hot. My face was jammed into someone's armpit who had terrible Boh and radiohead was great, don't get me wrong, but I started thinking about all these uncomfortable experiences I went through just to see music. And when you're that age as cool, it's fun, it's a story to tell, but now, at this age, you like, I don't want to I don't want to deal with that, I don't want to do that. I don't know, man, I'm still I'm still okay with it. Did this this show? I will say it was for there's a lot of old punkers at this show, at that festival I went to, and we were all still getting pretty pretty dirty and up close and personal, man like it was. It was one of the rougher shows I can remember, and I mean some of no effects is music is pretty upbeaten, like happy sounding, and it was a pretty damn rough pit, just because you got a bunch of these old school punkers. It's like no, effects kind of has a reputation for being like, you know, true to the scene. They've been doing it for so long and they started they were just some snotty kids starting a band. So their fans are tried and true punkers. We all were still up a dude. I'm almost forty and I was budding heads and, you know, running through crowds of people like I felt like I was twenty years old again. I yeah, I'm happy to still go get dirty and grind me with with the masses and see. That appealed to me. It's just my thing. I'm like, I don't want to get dirty. Yeah, I can't do I don't want. I don't want to bump against some stranger. Different strokes do yeah, exactly. I don't want to do that. Respect that. Yeah, it's just not my idea of a fun time. You know, I want to go up in the elevator and tap my foot to the elevator music version of Lisa Low ebb in the nine stories or whatever the fuck it is. You know, I'm just making this up as I go Ali. I was Riffen here, but but you know what I mean. I I'm a sports talk radio guy. I like listening to Baseball Games, I like listen to the podcast. was very few bands that are still in my rotation and I hate social media in general. I hate facebook, I like twitter, I hate facebook. I should say...

...that I don't do instagram any that stuff, but I've noticed is like a lot of things where people challenge each other like, Oh, what record is in your rotation all these years later? A day nine of ten or whatever, and each day you're going to post, you know, music, and I was thinking about that. I'm like how much stuff is actually still something? If I'm cleaning the house or if I just kind of want to rock out, what I listen to? And one of the things top of my list is faith. No more faith, the more. Is Something I've listened to since I was a kid, all my life, virtually since, you know, the the early s's never gone away. But a lot of the bands I did like the not something I'm like, Oh, I've got to pop that on. You're not cranking the Melvin's every day anymore. No, Melvin's is funny. I was listening to them the other day randomly, but I know the Melvins aren't, and that's something again. When we were in high school or something, I'd be like, fucking name are the Melvin's? Turn it up, dude, and as like turn it down a little bit, could you? Could you turn down this we bit. The MELVINS are coming around. I might go seeing. Yeah, well, there you go, I live again. I live through you. You go get dirty, you go fucking Mosh, you do whatever and you can tell me the story and I feel I feel cool. I'm like I was kind of there. Yeah, all right, that's fun. You know, I'll be your Avatar at the Melvin yes, you will by Avatar. They are cool, man. Yeah, I like that. So, Hey, I know I'm glad you had a good time and hopefully everybody who tuned into this debut episode of selling out had a good time as well. I hope you all stick around, tell your friends about us and, of course, over time, like like us, like our lives, we're going to evolve. The show will evolve and I've said it a few times during the course of this thing, we want to hear from you, so reach out to us if you think of something you know you want to hear about. You hate us? Anything, anything you want to say. You want to talk to us about your your fifteen cats? I think nate would be the guy to talk to about that. But still solutely, but still, you know, anything you want. We want to start a conversation with you. We want to hear from you. Yes, you don't look around you. So absolutely we crave your feedback. I want to thank all of you out there for tuning in taking a shot on us, and we appreciate it. I do. I know that absolutely. Don't know if, nate, you feel the same. You appreciate it, you dig it. Yeah, you don't feel the love. You Do? Cool? Yeah, Nice. So that was it. And by the way, we are going to be a biweekly podcast. So if you look for if you did like us and you look for us next week, hold on, hold your horses, slow down their shamous we shall be back, but in two weeks for now, but who knows, if the demands there, maybe we can do every week. What do you say? Yeah, all right, let us ease into this thing. Yeah, don't, don't rush us. Just the tip. This is malicious fecal distribution. She's come back multiple time, all audio and sound clips used on the selling out podcast or rights of their respective owners and are intended for personal enjoyment purposes only. The opinions expressed on the selling out show are uniquely our own and do not necessarily reflect those of our affiliates. We'd like to dedicate our debut podcast to the memory of a friend that we lost far too soon, Andrew Clement Jones,.

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