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What it does is reaches into a brain chemically and low cat your happiest memory chemically and then blocks on that emotion and releases it chemically, and then it keeps your happy, happy. Hello, hello, hello, and thank you for tuning into the selling out show where we screw up life at our leisure for your listening pleasure. I am one of your host David Schultz, and over here by my side is my partner in crime, the master of Grime, and yes, he may even stick his feet in some slime, nate Corzinski. Nate, how are you? I'm okay, man, my feet are are a little slimy. I'll be are they yeah, it's mostly just it's because of the heat this so the heat. Okay, it's very yes, we are still dealing with some summertime temperatures over here. I feel like you're roll up my sleeves like the WEATHERMAN and stand in front of a green screen. But there's you know, we haven't been on air in a little bit, and the reason for that is, in fact, due to Mother Nature. Yeah, that's true, because you were stuck in some stormy weather. Is that not correct? That's true. Last week we were going to record this very episode. And and yeah, we got this hurricane warning. We were watching the news. It was coming up towards US and a couple days prior we had actually had flooding in my place because of a rain storm that was like, you know, heralding the the hurricane or tropical storm, whatever it was, right a few days prior. But then they're like, oh, but then the real hurricane is going to go come through, so get prepared. So or play right. So, having just flood yeah, having just flooded out days prior at my place, I had I did all this prep work, like digging trenches in my yard, like like fucking up my lawn and shit together the water to like go away from the House that we were about to get so I didn't have to wet back my place out again. But the day comes, like after all this prep and we got a lot of wind and a few branches down, but the rain was really not much. I guess the storm kind of went west right before I was going to hit us. So I think I'm just going to go with it was the Juju of me doing all that prep work actually diverted the storm from its path and possibly saved some lives. Out. You're welcome. We every day. It takes some credit words not do why don't you? Yeah, I was going to say maybe you get a PhD in irrigation. Yeah, and you're saying no, I'm out there fucking saving lives, digging ditches. That's what I do. I actually recall I sent you a text to brace for the storm and I mentioned something about going outside, wearing beads and yelling. That's right, storm. So well, I didn't know if you maybe a contemplated trying that. I didn't have time. I was too busy digging trenches and whatever it was. Maybe it was the just the concept. I did do some some yelling at the sky and dancing around, so maybe that was but I could have just been the LSD I don't know. Very well, that would be a contributing factor indeed. Right, see, yelling at the pink elephants to get out of your trenches. Yeah, how have you been? Did I me? Oh me, Um, I'm good, I'm good. I did the unthinkable. Oh yeah, out of unthinkable things. So you're going to narrow it down. You got to. You got to really keep in consideration my personality. MMM, because I mean, if you think about me as a person and it really narrows down what those, you know, unthinkable things could truly be. But to any of the longtime listeners of our humble little program you know nate is a pet lover. He loves dogs, cats, camels, humpback whales, whatever, anything that isn't a human you love it. It's true. However, me, on the other hand, I am not a fan. I don't see the point in owning pets. I sometimes think that we are in fact pets ourselves to a Illuminati or something. But there was a night a little while back where I got home from work and there was a little dog running through the parking lot. Nearly got hit by a couple cars. Came strutting up to my wife and we looked at the thing where like, what do you want? Get the fuck away from me, but it seemed to really be in tune with our...
Chakra and my wife picked it up and went door to door. No one knew who the dog belonged to. So we brought it inside and I discovered the thing which riddled, riddled, I say with emphasis, with Fleas, Oh pestilence, oh my God, it was disgusting. I am looking at it's a cute dog, but I look at I go one of these all the black flex all over at Scot Jesus Christ. Oh No. So I lock it in my son's bathroom, I go to Walmart, I get like the fleet treatments and stuff. Anyway, in the for a little brevity here, I ended up adopting this dog because we couldn't find the owner. I spent a lot of money cleaning it up. I took it to the vet to make sure it was healthy, in a good dog shape. HMM, you know, buff dog right on, ripped, yeah, doing curls and yeah. So now I am a dog owner. Wow, and it's very needy. Well, Dave, are listeners, long time listeners that is, will remember you discussing a dog that you used to have a long time ago and you weren't such a fan, if I remember correctly. Yep, you're right, I'm not a fan. I said. I mean I don't like pets. I don't like people who parade their pets around, getting attention for them or say they need them for anything. You know, for me it's just like an extra mouth of FEEDT MMM. But this one happened to land in effect on our doorstep and we felt bad. I guess we could have taken it to the pound or pass the buck taking it to a kill shelter. Yeah, exactly, just had it murdered. But no, my son, who's going to be turning nine, he wanted a dog and the dog is very affectionate. It behaved itself very well and I figured out what the fucking I guess it didn't hurt that I saw something on the news. It said dogs will help you live to be a hundred and fifty years old. Ulterior motives? Yeah, I want to. I want to live forever. Yes, even if I'm like stuck with a weird like long that someone needs to crank and I have like robotic parts ass all acceptable. But it'll be thanks to the dog. But yeah, I don't know. So we have the dog now. It's very needy. It just always wants to sit on you and spend time with you, which is annoying. It bothers me. I guess I love that you do. I was going to say if someone's like really old, I get it, because you had like no one visits you anymore. Right, your family has forgotten about you. You are worthless, you're about to die. This thing cares about you? Yeah, but I still have people who love me, so fuck you, dog dude. There are people that at nursing homes where they'll bring dogs in just to cheer people up at the nursing homes, like they called therapy dogs. So years ago I used to train dogs, or help train dogs for needs this group. I forget what the acronym stands for, but it's for dogs that help out people that have whatever disabilities and things. So so we'd have to teach them how to turn on light switches and do this. A lot of it was just getting them to answer to commands and whatever. It was a whole process. But if there were a dog that wasn't taking to the training or was kind of stupid or was, you know, old, because an old dog can't learn new tricks, as we all know, then they could still be used as a therapy dog where they bring them to a nursing home and cheer up old people, as long as they weren't gonna like bite or jump on everyone. You know, those dogs are just beyond we just shoot them like old yeller. Yeah, Glue Factory Right Right there. Yeah, sure, all the yeller. Yeah, well, I mean I'm going to keep everybody updated and see if my heart changes, if I get warmer and kind leer and gentler. I mean there's been a lot of photo ops. My Wife's been taking pictures of the dog sitting on me, so I guess it shows I'm a nice person. Yeah, down in there somewhere, I guess. I don't know. Dogs are our great photo fodder, photo fodder, photo fodder, Fiddle Fattal, sure if you did that. Yeah, and and in reference to what you brought up earlier with my last dog, for those who weren't around to hear the story, that dog was a pain in the fucking balls. It was like the most useless fucking dog of all time, dumb as shit. Boonga, yes, thank you, you remember, you remember, but he was untrainable. He just Shit fucking everywhere, shoe up all the fucking furniture. I'm like, all right, enough enough. We knew someone who had plenty of dogs, a big house and yead where they could go roam and have fun. We gave boom away to those people in the fucking dog at hit by a car and killed like a week later. So maybe that weight in on my decision somewhat with this, this new one. I don't know. Maybe I was like, well, we got to take it in because we doomed our last dog. You should let it fucking stay in the house everywhere and chew on my shoes. It'd still be alive today, dumb as a bag of rocks, but still alive. It...
...might have died from trying to ingest a shoe. Maybe you saved yourself the real guilt of like actually causing the death, or maybe you would have, you know, gotten mad at it and old yellered it. Yeah, well, death by aglet. It swallowed like the little little plastic end of a shoelace, and then I'll have peat up my ass before you fucking know. Oh yeah, but, yeah, I don't know. We'll see how I'll see how it turns out. Yeah, speaking of dogs. So, yes, as you mentioned, I have a lot of pets, and you do. You're nut, you're fucking crazy, you're insane. What's the matter with you? It is overwhelming at times, but it's more that I I am with a woman who cannot help herself from from obtaining new dogs. All that our new animals. Not Lately it's been dogs, but it was horses. We have three horses. At one point we had five. We're down to three horses. We have two bunnies, we have four cats and we have three dogs at the House and we have two dogs, but we have some people staying with us at the moment who have a Chihuahua, and so it adds to the chaos in the house because we've had a doberman now for just over two years. Callie is our dobramant and in the beginning I was fed up with this dog, did not want the dog is a puppy is frustrating and you know you don't want to be cleaning up all the time, Cleaning Up Poop and pee and having a deal with you, like you mentioned, chewing on everything. Puppies are handful and and and I'm glad I found this out before I had a child, because I feel like I would have snapped on it kid at this point. But Oh my God, but Callie at some point grew old enough my doorman into to be an awesome dog who I love like I could. Now I can't imagine not having Callie. She's my buddy. But at some point recently we got a little pug and the pug. Is The pugs adorable? I'm not going to lie, but the PUG is starting to try my patients a little. Oh No, just it's that same thing that you're mentioning, like you can't stop her from chewing on everything. You can't stop like when it's like no matter what you do, like she runs over and she starts chewing on the recliner, like the chair, for some reason, like that's how that's the intelligence level we're dealing with this. But animals chewing on traded dog to turn on a fucking light in a room. Right, Holl me, you can't stop a Pug, but said she went on your freaking penny loafers. I don't know. She's she's not the brightest dog, okay, but I don't know. She's gonna Dumb Pug. She's adorable, she's kind of dumb. She like runs into walls and things, and she's I don't know. But again she choose on the recliner. You move her away, she does everything she can to get right back to that spot and she wanted again. You distract her with something. Nope, runs right or like she's single minded about her idiotic behavior. And I don't know, I guess I just don't have the patience for it. Again, I'm glad I didn't become a parent. But now we have a chihuahua adding to the chaos. We have two tiny dogs constantly. It's when they argue, argue, when they flew, when they argue, yeah, very large a coal. No, when they fight, when they they sound like people talking and you sped up the tape like that high pitch sounds. Yeah, but it's hoping to the CHIPMUNK's Christmas album. Yeah, but it sounds like if the chipmunks were like on a PCP hallucination or something else. Just like yeah, chaos. Yeah, but anyway. So it's been chaotic at the House and with the hurricane thing happening and all this, it's it's been a handful day. If it's been it's been eventful. But crying it definitely is trying it. You know, you're like Joe Exotic. HMM, you get out, you get all these fucking animals at your compound. That's right, I even have a tiger. Now I have a cat that has strikes like a tires, a unique sort of look to it, and I call him my tiger. And Yeah, now that you mentioned it, I am a little bit like Tiger King. I I have I'm I'm less homosexual than JOE exotic, but you know, other than that, it kind of sinks up. We line up. Well, you know your girl. She's the taker in of all charity cases when it comes to animals. So who knows, maybe a tiger's on the horizon, a chimpanzee, I don't fucking know. It's the weird an OARWALL's gonna be in your bathtub. If a pet in our wall. Yeah, like, where the fuck did this come from? Oh, it didn't have a home. I found it. You know, I don't even know where the hell would a Narwhal hang out. And Nar Wall is funny. I bring that up because I always thought they were fake. NOPE, they're like, I know, cordons of the sea. Yeah, it's weird, like I'd see one in like a movie or something, in an animated movie. I'm like yeah, I look at my kid, I'm like, those are all make believe. He looks at me and he's like no, Dad, those things are fucking real. Like what? I was forty something years old when I realized a Narwall is a real creature,...
...not something that was like hanging out with Zeus right in Hercules or something. So, yeah, the nails in the centaurs. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, what's next? Right? fucking Pegasus, pegus pegass. Yes, but you know, I feel kind of weird talking about this sometimes because I am like so out there with my feelings on pets, like I laid all on the table, right, right, really, all the cods are out there and people must think what a Shitty, despicable fucking human being this guy is, because he's honest and open about his disdain for dogs, cats and birds and whatever the fuck turtles. I don't care. Yet I feel like this is an interesting experiment, or it may prove to be, because if you're listening to our show now and maybe in two months from now, I'll be the guy fucking oh yeah, but my dog a cool sweater off Amazon, right, or I'll be the same attitude, just saying I fucking punted a dog out the Goddamn window. Much she's that dog the window. So I like to think of myself is a fun Dad, Happy Dad. I'm not overly strict and I'm a fairly goofy human being. I also have a firm belief that's a little weird awl and all of us and life in itself. It's just one giant parody account. But lately in my home I've been doing voices, not hearing voices, but doing like voices to try to entertain my child, and one has gotten quite popular and it's annoying the ever living shit out of my wife. Because I was watching an old Essen El Skitt let me know if you're familiar with this. If not, just let me keep talking, I suppose. But Chris Kuldan played a southern lawyer who was in court but no one could understand what the fuck he was saying. Now I have lived in Texas for a few years and it came to my attention that we are close to Louisiana. I've only driven through Louisiana maybe once in my life, but for some reason, just goofing around my kid, I started doing a little bit of a weird drawn saying I'm a little Weirdier. Yeah, pretty broke branch. And the thing is is its picked up on my son so bad he's actually trying to figure out what the Hell I'm saying when I'm doing this voice and now he's imitating it around our house. It's awesome. So, rather than just say to his mother, Oh, I'd like a glass of milk, he'll start off by first proclaiming I'm a Lui law, like a gras a meal, and my wife isn't know what to do with it. She's know how to process in. The poor woman like English is even her first language. I mean she speaks it fluently, don't get me wrong, but then we start throwing curveballs at her like this, she might think that we're having strokes. Right. That is a problem medically with either one of us. Yeah, so do you ever like kind of just walk around your house and kind of goof around and do voices at people, or think you have a little mal blank style or anything like that, or is that just me in my household because I am a moron? Well, I think. I think we all have a little of that in us. Stave, I hope really, because I'm always doing that Shit and years ago it was always like my Marvin the Martian voice at home. Oddly enough, the you know this space smudularly to her. You know, I'm you guys got that one for free. I usually get paid for that, but that sort of thing. You know what I mean. Joey would love it. And Yeah, and even just the other day I was telling a story and just kind of like I didn't realize I was making a voice and a friends, one of the people that staying with us, was like, you know, I love the voices you do. Man, you know he's he's younger, so he's easily impressed, I guess. But sure, but, and I don't you know, I don't even realize I'm doing them. Half the time. I feel like maybe I'm I'm always using but, Dave, are we all using voices, playing parts in our lives? You might part. Are you playing? Are you might just have split personalities? I don't know. Yeah, I don't realize I'm doing it. I just like jumping from from behind a corner and going, are you a crack cat fish? Are You a crowd Daddy? Really, you know, that's what I like to do. So, if you don't know, what kind of story where you telling, if you don't mind me ask, I think I was just telling a story, like a regular story, and it's one of those things where when you're indicating that the person you're talking to is saying something stupid. You may be let go. WHOO. They came back at me with Oh,...
...you you know. It's one of those where I apparently have a good one of those voices, those that's usually assigned to people of authority rights, that kind of low like Oh, we're there to us, what the fuck are you doing? Huh? You know, thought I told Jude, Oh, yeah, yes, yeah, fuck the police. That's right, maybe fuck the police, said, fuck them. Oh yeah, to mock him. Let's mock those people in authority, Dave. MMM MMM, totally, yeah, yeah, exactly, mock those. I mean even this times I just kind of like, you know, you know, I like to make up songs and rings like that, and that gets me in trouble sometimes too. So, yeah, well, there's just cut the shit. I don't know, I think you just to honesty, of you one of those people you like. I tell people how I feel about animal else, I. I. I say fuck the police, and I make voices and sing songs about people that they may find offensive. HMM, you know, you're a rebel, Dave. I am. No, deny it, Bro I'm give me a badge or something. Now, give me, give me a shiny metal rebel metal, rebel metal. Yeah, I'm just gonna be a rebel metal please. This is the point of the program where I like to thank our partners. Yes, indeed, lemon squeeze, these are great products and companies and you should be checking them out now. We make it even easier because we get some cup on codes. That's right, Hashtag deals, deals. It's like stealing nate, it really is. It's like running out of the store with Free Shit. Wow, called the cops, call the PO PO. First up we have Alpine hempcom. The seabed revolution has arrived. Now you could be suffering from a wide range of elements, or maybe need some better sleep. Well, just some better techniques to relax. We'll guess what. Sebd is there to help, and Alpine hemp has great prices on these products. So don't wait, visit Alpine hempcom. We also have northland vaporcom, vape juice. Baby. I love to vape. I am a former smoker, and I say former because vaping change my life. It made me feel better, healthier, and Northern Vapor helped me get there. All of their eloquids are dike tone and artificial sweetener free. You may be asking yourself, Dave, why the Hell is that important? Because guess what? Big Tobacco Wa ain't telling you what's in their products, but northland they care. Now both these sites, you can visit them and use cupon code selling out nineteen, to save nineteen percent off your entire order. Hence what I was saying earlier about running out of the store with that big old discount. Now, last but not least, we have spunk Loube, Oh nate, smunk loom. We talked about it every episode, but what else is there to say? HMM, you can't go for the ride if you can't get inside. I think we came up with a new catch fraise for them. Man, do you go put that on a t shirt, baby, I'm put that on a shirt. They should do that immediately and send you a royalty check. But yeah, spunk loube is used by professionals in the adult film industry and now you can have it delivered discreetly to your home. Check them out at spunk lubecom today and you can thank me later. Now, what do you say we hop into some nates notes, dust up your lps. It's time for nate. No, no, last week I went to my first big show back from the year plus long quarantine. I mean. I had gone to see a friend play at a bar a couple weeks ago and I've played a few shows myself since April at a couple local breweries, but I hadn't gone to like a thousand plus capacity venue to see a band since everything shut down. It was cool. This band called between the buried and me. We're playing right at the palladium and wooster, which is super close to where I live. I was initially supposed to be going with two friends, but they had to bail last minute. Luckily I found two other friends who were available and also interested. The thing about between the buried in me, or bt Bam for brevity the acronym, is that they're not for everyone. They play this complex, nuanced style of metal that really requires an open mind and a bit of patients from the listener. Their songs usually hover around the eight to ten minute mark and they can shift stylistically from super heavy rifts and death metal growling to like jazz fusion or Bluegrass or some beautiful piano ballad and then back to metal. Often they'll shift through several styles and at least a dozen riffs or melodies in one song. Their albums are these big...
...cohesive concept pieces with repeating motifs and callbacks and usually a storyline or basic theme running through the whole thing. They're actually reminiscent of classic progressive rock bands like yes or King Crimson, just in a more metal core sort of context. On their current tour, bet Bam is foregoing any opening acts, instead doing a tour called an evening with between the buried in me. First is like an hour and a half set that showcases songs from across there now twenty year career. After that comes a short intermission followed by a second set in which they play one of their complete albums all the way through. This is pretty awesome, because their songs work best when heard in the context of the complete record. The first half of the show, while still great, was a lot less satisfying than hearing them showcase their full creative potential in the latter half. The album they performed, the great misdirect, is ten years old and it's a fan favorite, so for many of us this is a great tour to attend. The great misdirect is actually the first record of theirs that came out after I discovered them all those years ago. It's their fifth record, but I had only just been introduced to them a year or so prior to its release. It's like the first thing they put out that I was actively anticipating, so it has some special meaning to me. Back in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, I was in a halfway house for parole he's. It was the first really happy, peaceful time in my life and about a decade of active addiction. I met a lot of great people there, from the staff to the other residents to all these people who would come and volunteer at the house, cooking meals and just getting to know us. Some of these were church groups, some just families who wanted to be kind and helpful. This one family, the Sullivan's, would come cook and eat with us a few times a month. They were that awesome type of family who seemed really wholesome, but they had no issue with the kind of conversations that invariably took place at a dinner table full of x cons. The younger son, who was maybe seventeen at the time it, was into a lot of cool music and we would often talk about different bands. I had spent the last several years either locked up or on the streets hustling, so my references were a little dated. I once told him how I liked Mr Bungle in the Mars Volta, two bands that have fairly schizophrenic song structures. He asked me, have you ever listened to between the buried in me? Their most recent two records will blow your mind. I confessed that I didn't know them, and the next time the Sullivan's came by he brought me to burn CDs of those two most recent albums, Alaska and colors. I'll admit that it took me a while to get what they were doing, but there's only so much to do at a halfway house and the Internet was very limited back then, so I voraciously consumed any new CDs I managed to get my hands on. It wasn't long before I was obsessed with getting lost in their meandering song structures and weird tempos. Every song was like a journey. The great misdirect came out not long after that and now, all this time later, I've become a huge fan of their work, and it's just gotten more polished and perfected as they've gotten older. So, yeah, not a bad group to herald the beginning of my return to concerts. The two guys I ended up going with are both working guitarists who have played their share of live gigs themselves. They're both scholars of the guitar. One teaches lessons and the other works on the instruments themselves. The reason I mentioned this is that it was good to be at this show with a couple guys who understand just how hard it is to pull off what bet Bam do. I mean, anyone could be blown away by their performance, but if you really know how complex and difficult their music is, it's that much crazier to see them do it live so seamlessly. So yeah, great show. Super Happy I got to see them. I hope there will be lots of more shows in my future, as long as the world doesn't shut down again and as long as it's fairly safe to attend public events at this rate. Who really knows, but I'm trying to be optimistic. Yep, fuck that. No way in Hell you will get me to go to a live show. No, thank you. Huh, pass hard, pass. Yeah, man, you've said that...
...sort of thing before about like at this age, you definitely are all set with going to live shows, even before the pandemic, even before all that Shit. It's just you had said if the flaming lips, which is a band that you've always loved, were they were playing like down the road from your house, like not far from your house, and you were like now, a'most that I remember that. Yeah, I don't want to pack. I don't have to pack the car and get stuck in the traffic. No, thank you. I mean I'm in this like thing right now with with movies. I see these films being advertised and I know we're coming out and they only in theaters and I go, Oh, Oh, why? Why? I mean, I pay off for all these streaming services and I'd be even willing to pay a premium, for example, like Disney plus does, to watch these films at home. And this is something I've wanted for years. This happened when I first had a kid. I was like, they should have a streaming service that releases new films so young parents do not have to find a babysitter and do this and go through the pains. I'm just having a nice night out and now it's here. It's arrived on, understandably for shitty reasons, because a fucking pandemics and variance and everything else, but this is what I want. This is it, man. And then when you talk about shows, I just don't want to be around all those people. Yeah, has nothing to do about breathing in their crappy air and getting sick. It just I don't know, you, what do I want to be this close to you anyway? Yeah, man, who are you? You know, it's funny that you mentioned that, and I mean it's more for the health reasons, but the the first two people that I was supposed to go with, I mentioned how I ended up finding to replacements to go with me. The first two backed out because of the Delta variant and how everything's just like I guess in Worcester it was starting to get a little, you know, out of control. Not Not as bad as it is in Texas, I imagine, but God, but yes, but in worcester the thing is, I mean I'm vaccinated. Everybody in my household is vaccine, everybody I really know is vaccinated, so I felt a little more safe. The people that were going to go, they have like a child in the House that's too young to get the vaccine. Plus one of them has, you know, some health issues where they may feel less comfortable being exposed to, you know, whatever it is. They felt unsafe because of that, and so it was this Madd to like shit, it was like the day before the show and I've been looking forwards and all sudden they're backing. I'm like fuck, and I found two people to go because I didn't even have a ride. That was the main issue. All of a sudden I'm like Shit, you know, not only am I losing my two friends, they were going to the show with me, but they were my ride and like, so I told some friends, you know, look, if you you want to come see this band, and they happen to be it ended up being two guys that, like I said, they're working musicians. They play Guitar, they study the Guitar, they know what it's like to play a live show and to make everything click on stage. And these this band is like so many pieces have to fit together just right for it to sound right. Like it's so much chaos and like but organized, you know, and like, like I said, going from weird jazz tempos to like death metal speed to like weird like folk music, like all this shit, but they do it so seamlessly and it's great and it was nice to go with people who are like wow, you know, I know how hard that would be. So it's a thing I do it in the studio. It's another thing to actually be able to perform that in a live setting exactly, man, which is a rare thing, I think. Yeah, nowadays, the more and more I realize, like a lot of these younger acts go into the studio, they use all this equipment, they use all this technology, but then when it comes to Oh, they have like someone else perform on their track, right, and then, like, when it comes to being a live performance, they don't have that person there, so they're playing, you know, they it's like I'd recording. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and everything else. You well, what the fuck all the magic happen in the studio when you had all the tools? DICKHEAD, right, but I'll be honest, ben it's two different art forms. You know, there's a there's studios and how much fun that can be and and if you want you can just record something, not worrying. If you can do it live, and that's its own art form. It's like like a composer, somebody that, come quote, composes something and it's just like, look at this piece. Are just like a painting, like you may not be able to recreate that painting live, but it's cool to look at. So this album, it is what it is, but maybe it's like, I don't know. The cool thing was this band between the buried and me have these crazy albums and they did that whole album live. They, since their albums are such concept pieces and like concept albums whatever, they will occasionally go, okay, this...
...tour, we're doing this album, this toy, we're doing this album and and yeah, it's so cool to see that because it'd be like, I don't know, I don't even know. If I don't know, I guess pink Floy's probably done the whole wall, you know, live, or dark side of the Moon live, I would imagine. But it's that sort of thing where it's a storyline, weird psychedelic music, different movements, like like the wall, like dark side of the Moon, you know. So yeah, it was nice to see that complete piece and, as I mentioned, it was at a special place in my heart that album just but yeah, man, I don't know. I I am hoping that shows will continue to be open, but it sounds like I heard nine inch nails just canceled any upcoming dates they have for the foreseeable future because things are just getting crazy again. Things are getting out of hand. So I don't know, but I wonder. Yeah, now, I know you have experience with this. Is You remember back in the day, you be at a show, the music is rocking and pumping. You look over, you see some dude looks like he just got face fucked by a grizzly bear and he just passes you this like ratty looking ass fucking joint and you just be like Oh, cool man, we'd and you take it and you'd hit it and pass it on it go throughout the crowd. Those days officially over. They are for me, you know. Okay, like, I didn't see any of that going on. I smelled some weed at one point, but I oh, and here's another thing, like, hmm, I wasn't in that huge crowd like up front. It was a theater. It was. You've been to the padium and whister it's. The floor is just like any place where you're all standing shoulder to shoulder. Mosh pits, whatever, it's this whole thing. But we were up on the balcony, like the MEZZANINE, and had seats and there was space between US and other people, so that was another thing. Like I felt safer being in that sort of environment rather than being crushed up front with all the people, you know. And I yeah, I smelled some pot, but I wasn't going to take a hit of some past it. I feel like everyone is bringing their own vapes inside, like I don't even know why you smell pot in a place anymore. Just bring a vape, you know. I mean nobody smells it, but it is what it is. For those were the good old days, weren't they? You just see some like woman who it fucking pulled a gibber out of her bra right, cool, someone's got some dope. Yeah, so, yeah, I hope they're over with. I mean, I don't know who happily accept that, but hey, I don't know conscious like I said, it's been many years, yeah, since I've even been to one, so I the etiquette may have changed it now with the whole coronavirus thing, who knows? And then you talking about bands playing full albums. I know, and I'm sure you've heard of Primus is on the road now right playing tribute, a farewell to King's right by rush by rush. So that seems to be a theme that's gotten some steam. Yeah, I mean it's it's cool to see. I mean there's I feel like in the days of the pandemic, where I've mentioned on this show before, there were so many online performances and whatnot, like bands found ways to keep fans happy and to still hopefully generate some income just performing shows online and doing it from home and zoom and this whole new world, and I don't know, it's like you would see things like that because it was so easy for them to put on a show, like all you had to do was hook up the Internet and you know whatever. It was very easy. Wasn't like moving all your equipment to each you know, on a tour bus everywhere. So so bands would do that sort of thing. They'd be like, Hey, what the hell, let's let's just do a whole album please the fans, like one of our old classic albums. And you know, I saw that kind of a lot, to be honest with you, over the last year and that was cool. And now that things are opening up again. I mean between the Bary to me are one of those bands. As I mentioned, they do that fairly regularly because their albums are concept pieces. But I even saw other bands doing a lot of that over the last year and it's cool because I'm an album person. I'm the type of person that, yeah, singles cool or a song. I have favorite songs, but really I love when a band puts effort into making an album like a cohesive thing or it doesn't necessarily have to have a whole storyline or connective lyrics, but just put some thought into the flow of it. You know, it starts like this, then there's a lull, like a little further on, a mellow song, and then I get some energy, but, you know, a little bit of thought into it and like, you know, a powerful closer to the album, a powerful last song that like makes you go yeah, you know, at the end when you turn it off, you like man, that was that was a powerful ending and that's one of the things that band between the very to me, does. They have very powerful closers all the time, so it was cool. I just always consider the desire for live entertainment a young person's game. MMM.
I like to think of everything like porn. HMM, because you watch porn, right, but no one ever goes. Well, I Geez, would be so much better if I was there. Well, maybe they do think that, but still, there's never an opportunity for people to go, oh well, I'm going to go see this porn star perform live. HMM. You going to watch the strippers, though? Yeah, I guess. Maybe. Maybe you're upending my argument here. Well, I don't. I'm with you, like I you know, I wouldn't want to be there. It's like that's the point of port as a voyeuristic thing. Yes, right, well, then, you know you want to enjoy something in the privacy your own home, you don't, you know? So for me that's way more appealing, right, especially if you want to masturbate to a record. Yeah, exactly. It's hard to do that at a live setting without getting in trouble. Well, who knows, it might be welcomed. We don't know what kind of venues you're visiting. But yeah, you know, it's just I don't know, man, I'm at the point where it's just like I'd rather just do everything at home. Everything at home. It's fine by me, I don't care. I all my entertainment. That is I'd rather do at home. I mean listen to certain things that you can't avoid, like if you wanted to go to I know, for example, like Jurassic Park or Jurassic world has this interactive dinosaur experience. If you watched on TV, it does you know. Good, you want to go there and see the animatronics and fucking get freaked out or something. I understand all that. Yeah, but I mean when it comes to watching a band player, seeing a movie or we watching a girl gaggle on a fucking bunch of cocks, I can do that on my cell phone or on my smart TV. Yeah, I don't know, it's still as much as that's becoming the norm. I still get creeped out when I hear things like now you don't even have to leave the house to do this, or now you don't have to leave the house to shop for this, or now you know, because it's like, I don't know what like. I'm starting to get to the point where if I stay inside all day, I feel like a like a piece of shit. I feel uncomfortable and I almost feel like anxious and shit, I don't know, it's it's weird. I hear you, know I hear you, but that's why I like I go to a park and I'll walk around with my family. Like for me, that's when we go out because, again, back to the health of reasons, you're not cram next to anybody, you're not in a room or anything else. You're free to Rome and enjoy the beauty that is our world. Sure, and also, again, it keeps you from getting anxious or anxiety or feeling claustrophobic. I'm just kind of staying strictly to the world of entertainment here. Okay, I got you. You know I mean. I don't, I don't ever want to go to a movie theater again. I really don't want to at all. And fucking I don't know, and I was even trying to like, I'm not a smart guy, I am pretty dumb, but I was like trying to think of okay, well, how much, for example, does Disney lose money wise, if I don't have to go to a theater to see this movie, aren't they making more money by charging me a base rate of, say, thirty dollars? Because what if I go see the movie and it's a matinee. Some only pay and whatever. Its six bucks a ticket and then they get a percentage that has to go to the movie theater and then all the other money is going to concessions anyway. So how much is the movie production company really making off my ticket? But if I just give them boom is thirty bucks. I mean, I get no friends, so I'm not I'm not inviting like twenty people over to watch the movie. I'm not pirating the thing right. So aren't they actually making out? I don't know. I always thought it was the opposite, and I thought because tickets now so expensive. And Yeah, you can go to a matinee for cheaper, but if you pay the base thirty whatever, that premium axis, that's just a onetime shot after you've seen two or three movies. It seems like they'd be missing out, like they're losing money after however many movies, if you watch a bunch of them, and and actually Scarlett Johnson is in that lawsuit with Disney. saw that. Yeah, but about how the rest of the avengers movies all got these big theatrical releases and we're able to make so much money because the ticket prices are so expensive and now it's it's thrown all off just for her movie specifically, and I mean, yeah, she's kind of a victim of circumstance. It's not like anyone targeted her for it, but she does have an argument. You know, it is kind of like it sucks, you know, like, but I don't know if that's grounds for a lawsuit. I mean, you know, you got to make do with what's happening. You got a kind of deal with that. It's at least the movie came out, you know. Yeah, I don't know the specifics of that, like if it was her contract and it was tell you like she get a percentage of the sales? I don't know, because that, yeah, that's the only thing that would make sense to me and I'm not well read on it. Yeah, you can either. We talk out our assholet. Of course, our ass is our favorite mouthpiece. But the thing is is like, when you see that just on the surface at all, it makes me think, I like, metallica versus napster or something right where you got these multimillionaire billionaire s saying hey, Whoa, Whoa, and you're...
...like, well, you're still making money off something. No, I'm not making my full fucking amount off of this. I know people are suffering out there in the world, but I got to get me minds yes, yet I know that's not the full deal. I understand that, you know, but the same time, I mean the initial thought. Sure, I mean, yeah, it does seem a little tone deaf, you know, seems a little like, if at face value anyway, it seems a little like, yeah, that doesn't look great, but at the same time it's also the whole. You know, well, she's a woman. She's only like the second woman lead character in the avengers to get a movie, and is it's you know, that's not fair to you know, I'm as liberal as they come, but it seems like there are people that are kind of latching onto that, like it's like not fair to the woman, when it's that's not the point, you know. It's like it wasn't. That's just again, that's collateral damage. That's happening because of this pandemic. It's not like someone's like that's just the woman's movie or just going to put it out on this like, you know what I mean. If they could, they would have. They would have capitalized like they did with Captain Marvel. It was like this, the first female lad you know, they it's very important to have those things, but at the same time it seems like, I don't know, there are people that latch onto things and kind of make too big of a deal. I tell you what, I would love to be her litigator. Oh Yeah, I've made a little Revian for SCOTTA joyants who call back. Call you are crawl Fisher or crown days scarlet. You like my Bolo Tie? You calling me? Yeah, back to the way, way back. Yeah, but the thing I don't know, man, this fucking news. Don't even give me start on news, and news bothers me. I can't I don't know what the fuck. You know, I was watching TV the other day and there's a commercial and as for a new show on the local channel called verified, and it said you watch news all day, but we're here to tell you if what you've heard is real, and they like we fact check this, and then I go, what the fuck is a point of the news anymore? If now I need a separate show to tell me if I just watched was legitimate, right, right, like, what the fuck is the matter with the world? This misinformation campaign is one of the greatest successes right I've ever seen. If we had put half the effort, we didn't a miss information, imagine the things that we could accomplish as a race, is a species, as a culture. Is Everything right, but we don't write. There's too much money to be made and Miss Information and too much power to be gotten, no matter who it's from. I'm that's not a part, isn't thing, it's just it is what it is like if you can somehow get people to spend their money or get people to vote for you, or whatever it is, and it takes you kind of been in the truth or, in this day and age, completely making shit up, like yeah, and and the problem is there's enough of that going on where and everyone's starting to doubt what's real and it's making things so muddy. And a lot of it is. Yes, the problem with with the Internet and now accessible it is everyone can access the bullshit. Like you, if you want to spread some bullshit and you do a good enough production on your video or your whatever you're putting together, like it will get believed by enough people where all of a sudden, yeah, it's just I don't know, it's just too easy to confuse some asshole producing a video at home with a verified news piece or whatever. You know, it's if you create enough distrust, you can just make I don't know, you can. I don't even know what's end game here. It's like, what's the point? Like, look at yourself all twisting up like a pretzel there body. I mean, you just say we fucked up the Internet. We really did. We fucked it up. Yeah, well, the key is to cause that kind of distrust and then convince people that you're the only one that has the truth. That's the end game, is just to get people to believe that yours is the right one, and you know, that's the game. If you can do that, man, you good. Our podcast is the only podcast that matters. That's right. The selling out show is the only place you should be getting podcast and entertainment from. That's right. If anybody else's otherwise, they're full of Shit. And yes, we talk out of our ass, but if anybody else says something different, laughs, that's right. Yeah, that's all it is, man, I'm telling you. fucking it well, you know, to get off of that. Yeah, because we can spend all day on that, and we probably will. You know, I'm glad you enjoyed your show, glad you didn't get sick from going to your show because you are, in fact, fully vaccinated. That's right, to which everybody should really go out and do. I don't care about your arguments. All I know is this, is that if you're angry that you have to wear a mask now, it's your fault. Yeah, and in vaccinated, it's going to get worse. So, if you're like a mass is a big deal, like asking someone to put on a mask is the...
...equivalent of putting barbed wire on your genitals. Well, guess what, in probably six months time, you're going to have to wear a fucking biohazard suit because your ass refused to get vaccinated and you're going to fuck it up for everybody else. So, I mean there's so many common sense arguments out there on the Internet that are being ignored safety reasons or even to kind of like quell anybody's doubts and why this should get something they're not really sure what it is put inside their body. I mean, just fucking be a decent person, you cock sucker, and go get fucking vaccinated. Stopped making life shitty for everybody else. That applies to many other things. To stop being a fucking Dick Bag, whatever it may be. Don't cut off that guy in traffic. HMM, jerk. Yeah, at least until the kids can get can get their vaccinations, the ones that haven't been able to yet, once everyone's available and they can get the ones they want, like the ones you want. It can get it after a while. It's like the hospitals are just starting to get fed up and be like look, if you can't like right now, the kids still are a risk because they're not in control of whether they can be vaccinated or not, but the ones that are choosing to not vaccinate themselves are I don't know. It's once, once everyone's vaccinated that wants to be. It's kind of like, all right, you guys, you know the problems. Then it fills up the hospitals, though, you know what I mean. Well, and then the virus just feeds off the people who didn't get vaccinating. Goes. I know how to get stronger now right mutates. I'm going to mutate, so fuck your vaccines. And I mean I shouldn't even talk sometimes because there's many years I was like I'm not going to get a flu shot? Yeah, yeah, I never got a flu shot either. The last person on earth will be me and a bunch of cockroaches. Fuck the flu shot. And then now I as with everything, with time, with age, with getting wiser and hopefully a little bit more compassion, you start realizing what the was. I think. So, yeah, yeah, well, I don't know. You know, you know. So, yeah, but anyway, I think that does it for our our show today. What do you say, nate? You got anything else you'd like to add before we hit the zerold? No, I was just gonna say. Ye, man, we're winding down and we're getting into these topics that are like, we can just go on. I should have started the show with this ship. Now let's spare our listeners that have probably heard US talk about this shit constantly like this. Yeah, they know the format of this show. You like, these guys don't use scripts, man, they just free ball. Yeah, and then by the end of the show they get so goddamn angry. Yeah, they're in the weeds. So don't go and kick your dog. Yeah, don't do that. Don't kick don't kick a strangers dog, please, don't kick any dogs. No, no, no, no, but I want to thank each and every one of you for taking the time to tune in today. Virtual hugs for everyone. I am Dave. That is nate, and this has been selling out show piece.
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